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Offline Anonymous

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Are you in trouble.. There is a survivor hotline
« on: March 18, 2003, 07:09:00 PM »
ISAC has a survivor hotline for any survivor or spouse that is feeling suicidal, depressed etc. This is manned by professionals. During the day this is manned by American Family Foundation who are nationally known cult experts, ISAC has spoken at length with their counselors and doctors so they are very familiar with what survivors go through...

During Business hours call ISAC Hotline
(239) 514- 3081

After hours you can call 727-596-7118
This is manned by a survivor and psychiatric technician.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2003, 11:27:00 PM »
WTF is a 'psychiatric technician'?
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2003, 06:44:00 PM »
I would imagine a "psychiatric technician" is someone who would be working alongside a psychiatrist, or some mental health professional in a hospital setting. Kind of like a nurse and would have more than just basic skills in regards to treating patients.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2003, 04:26:00 PM »
Author: Please stop posting incorrect information!

 Those ISAC numbers are not correct,(the (727) area code one does not exist) and misleading to those seeking hot-line help. Please get current and "real" information before offering it. Not only have I called those, and have tried for a while,(the past 5 weeks) I've also left messages.(to the daytime one) They weren't returned. Try to consider that someone who really needs help, or is contemplating suicide might call them. Get it right or stop anonymously posting them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2003, 01:42:00 PM »
After hours, niether of which are credentialed to assist someone with suicidal ideation. Quit trying to save the world! This sounds like "Dime Therapy" in synops. "Feedback" as it was...

While I appreciate all your efforts, it seems as if your are lending validity to a cultic society concept among the survivors community. Survivors need skills relative to independence and responsibility, Foster dependence on other survivors is just as "cultic" as the program itself. I hate to use the word "Codependence" as it was a shitty word even during it's peak in the '80s but it is definitely representative of what you reflect. Do we need some special line that we call on a red "bat-phone" when going through troubles or can we see our local shrink/pastor/neighbor/etc. Granted none understand our experience as well as cult experts and survivors, but I think it is more of a transition to real life.

"Once a druggie always a druggie" is a concept that I don't subscribe to nor do I subscribe to the philosphy that I am incapable, disabled, handicapped, or in need of some "special" assistance because of all my teen years in a pseudotherapeutic thought reform cult!
I am able and I will survive through each struggle sans "special assistance".

It seems like you are working hard on ISAC and again I appreciate the efforts. I hope it will not be thanklessly in vain. I had to share my thoughts on the issue and don't mean to be offensive in any way.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2003, 03:36:00 PM »
You don't need to go to medical school to convince a person that their life is worth living. That is called caring enough to help. Not everyone has the luxury of quality therapy or psychiatric care.
There is a huge difference in an adult, by their own free will, calling a hot-line instead of killing themselves. As apposed to a child being forced into thought reform. We are not children anymore. If I can help a friend in need, then good for both of us.
I mean, what is organized religion? It's basicly a cult in the name of Jesus in alot of people's minds. But, I'm not going to start a debate against it. That's closed minded and selfishly immature.
A person, willing to volunteer help, basicly to provide an ear to listen, is no cult, it's a friend. Just because we were a part of a horrific mind control experiment, doesn't give us the right to "cry wolf" at the drop of a hat. Help helps. It's the alternative to attempting suicide at 4am , alone and hopeless. Even if you are only on the phone long enough to give them a suicide hot-line #, or calling their local emergency room. It can make a difference. I've taken a friend who over-dosed (suicide attempt) to the hospital before, and it saved their life. I've had a friend call me from their cell phone, on their roof, ready to jump, and kept them on the phone long enough to get help to them, and it was long distance!
This is silly to argue because, what do you do? Tell the person, sorry find a shrink loser? I'm not heartless, I can't turn my back . I'm going to try to help a person who needs and asks for it. Learn to recognize the difference, before you cry CULT!!!
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