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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2006, 11:23:36 AM »
MA, you are wrong.  Juvie is horrible. It will ruin the kid's life.  I can't believe you would suggest a parent go that route.  See what the rate for going to and graduating from college is after juvie.

The problem with this site is that so much of the information is wrong- both with respect to individuals such as Karen and with respect to issues such as alternatives for teens.  You are really off-base with your comments and I hope no one comes here looking for truth.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2006, 11:26:20 AM »
MA didn't suggest that Juvenile Hall is a nice place. He did infer that while Juvenile hall is not a nice place to be, he even more rightfully suggested that RTC's are even worst.

In short for the bleeding heart:

Juvies suck..

RTC's suck even worst.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2006, 11:28:22 AM »
Further don't most residents who graduate from Carlbrook find themselves in the bind of not being able to attend college as their diploma isn't worth the paper it's printed on?

At least in Juvie, those who stay long enough, the kids are able to earn a GED. It isn't much but it will be the same exact bit of paper any Carlbrook grad will end up with.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2006, 11:33:28 AM »
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MA, you are wrong.  Juvie is horrible. It will ruin the kid's life.  I can't believe you would suggest a parent go that route.  See what the rate for going to and graduating from college is after juvie.

The problem with this site is that so much of the information is wrong- both with respect to individuals such as Karen and with respect to issues such as alternatives for teens.  You are really off-base with your comments and I hope no one comes here looking for truth.


I am curious if you saw the TB documnetary that was on Google Video for a while, a few months back. There was a kid on it interviewed (now an adult) who said a group of other kids ganged up on him and attacked him, attempting to murder him in the surf of Jamaica, so that the program would be shut down and/or the kids would get put into juvie, or some other sort of detention other than WWASPS. Talk to WWASPS graduates and drop outs alike and you will hear countless rumors of students attacking other students in an attempt to be charged with assault and enter the justice system in order to escape WWASPS.
Juvenille hall is better than some programs, kids know it, and are willing to hurt other kids in order to prove their point.
I've been to juvie, my life is not ruined. I've been to abusive programs as well, and I don't spend any time posting on juvie abuse boards, why do you think that is?
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2006, 11:34:58 AM »
"Ask Karen about "Reverend Bitch." She's already posted it on the internet. Also posted about finding and watching the video of her kid poking his girl."

Why don't you get your information correct.  You have completely misread (deliberately) posts and taken them completely out of context.  What a surprise on this site!   You seem particularly fascinated with the whole issue of the video. Gee, when was that? 2003 or so. And no none watched it- I believe the post you are so taken with reported that a video was found and destroyed.

Does this concern me? Not a bit. It just amazes me to see the lengths you creeps go to, in your anger towards your own parents, to attack another family.  How long has it been since Karen has been to this site?  Come on- you are all IP whizzes.  You reported her presence over and over (falsely, no doubt).  Her daughter is in college. She is not "clergy".  And so what if she is? Seems pretty impressive to me.  
You are sad, sad little people.  I am so grateful that my kid is not like you.  I read her some of the posts from here and she thinks you are all about 12 years old and badly in need of stronger meds.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2006, 11:37:25 AM »
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You are sad, sad little people.


Here we go again.  :roll:

(I'm willing to bet I am bigger than you, why do you keep insisting we are so little. Do you think fornits is inhabitated by midgets or something?)
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2006, 11:37:30 AM »
If you review the Carlbrook website and the threads, you will see that almost every Carlbrook grad goes on to an excellent college or prep school.  There are currently kids at  several Ivy League schools, NYU, USC, Wash U, UVA etc.  The diplomas are absolutely fine and are honored everywhere.
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2006, 12:17:04 PM »
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"Ask Karen about "Reverend Bitch." She's already posted it on the internet. Also posted about finding and watching the video of her kid poking his girl."

Why don't you get your information correct.  You have completely misread (deliberately) posts and taken them completely out of context.  What a surprise on this site!   You seem particularly fascinated with the whole issue of the video. Gee, when was that? 2003 or so. And no none watched it- I believe the post you are so taken with reported that a video was found and destroyed.

Does this concern me? Not a bit. It just amazes me to see the lengths you creeps go to, in your anger towards your own parents, to attack another family.  How long has it been since Karen has been to this site?  Come on- you are all IP whizzes.  You reported her presence over and over (falsely, no doubt).  Her daughter is in college. She is not "clergy".  And so what if she is? Seems pretty impressive to me.  
You are sad, sad little people.  I am so grateful that my kid is not like you. I read her some of the posts from here and she thinks you are all about 12 years old and badly in need of stronger meds.



So you are not karen, as you claim, You go on about her daughter in length. Then you post that you read your kid, 'her', some of the posts here .... if one reads your post carefully it sounds like you are talking about karen's daughter when you are referring to her. I mean, that is the only reason why your kid would care, because the posts concern them, meaning the posts about clergy. You have to keep your hand closer to your chest, karen, you are letting us down! When someone posts in such generic terms as you, refusing to acknowledge gender, location, program names, we all know you are full of shit before we finish the first sentence.
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2006, 12:19:26 PM »
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MA, you are wrong.  Juvie is horrible. It will ruin the kid's life.  I can't believe you would suggest a parent go that route.  See what the rate for going to and graduating from college is after juvie.

The problem with this site is that so much of the information is wrong- both with respect to individuals such as Karen and with respect to issues such as alternatives for teens.  You are really off-base with your comments and I hope no one comes here looking for truth.


I was in both an RTC and juvie.  Juvie was far better!!  Not a nice place, but at least kids have rights in juvie.  You have none in an RTC or TBS.  None.
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2006, 12:21:04 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2006, 12:21:53 PM »
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If you review the Carlbrook website and the threads, you will see that almost every Carlbrook grad goes on to an excellent college or prep school.  There are currently kids at  several Ivy League schools, NYU, USC, Wash U, UVA etc.  The diplomas are absolutely fine and are honored everywhere.


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I went to carlbrook August 19, 2005-March 1, 2006

a little backround:
I am a former cocaine, xtc, painkiller, benzo, meth addict who was way out of line at home and stealing and arrested for assault and battery. I asked my parents for help and this is what they did:
1. sent me to a residentail treatment center for one month (Hazelden in Minisota)
2. dirrectly sent me to a wilderness program for 7weeks (second nature Utah)
3. dirrectly sent to Carlbrook school in Virginia


My experience at Carlbrook was double sided.
The acedemics there were great and i enjoyed the classes very much.

The "therapy" however was terrible. The owner of the school is border line insane.

i would describe my experience there as abusive un unhelpful.
I would go into specifics but I would go on for pages.
If anyone has any specific questions regarding Carlbrook School feel free to ask me: DImitriBeshkov@hotmail.com
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« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2006, 12:23:22 PM »
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You are sad, sad little people. I am so grateful that my kid is not like you. I read her some of the posts from here and she thinks you are all about 12 years old and badly in need of stronger meds.


I know you believe this statement. However, whether you believe it not, we are not  12 year olds here. Nor are we drug addicts, losers, on prescription psychotropic meds or deranged in any other way. Rational people can hold the views a lot of us hold, even though you cannot/will not believe this.
Just imagine for a moment that the posters on fornits are productive, successful, intelligent citizens of this country, whom you would otherwise respect if not for our internet posting habits. Just imagine that.
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« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2006, 12:33:56 PM »
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You are sad, sad little people.  I am so grateful that my kid is not like you.  I read her some of the posts from here and she thinks you are all about 12 years old and badly in need of stronger meds.


Believe me, when my kids read this site and the shit you people post they get down on their knees and thank God that I wasn't a parent like you.
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« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2006, 12:55:24 PM »
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See what the rate for going to and graduating from college is after juvie.


What are you saying? That college tuition is higher for a kid who has been to juvie? Never heard this. How much higher? Enough to justify the 50-100K fee paid to warehouse kids while they mature?
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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2006, 01:32:59 PM »
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You are sad, sad little people.  I am so grateful that my kid is not like you.  I read her some of the posts from here and she thinks you are all about 12 years old and badly in need of stronger meds.

Believe me, when my kids read this site and the shit you people post they get down on their knees and thank God that I wasn't a parent like you.


:rofl: Step 1 to a more appreciative child: Have them read Fornits for a while. Would work even better with ST. "Wow, Dad, you're a complete asshole and a stupid motherfucker, but at least you're not a programmie!"
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