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Offline Anonymous

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« on: March 02, 2003, 01:21:00 AM »
This my first time posting,sorry for any grammer ,etc ,errors.I am not into typing or being proper or even trying to be. Does anyone remember being an oldcomer and after open meetings having staff threaten you to change your newcomers or you would be set back! My god i would get so scared and angry that it would happen(which it never did for me even when they didnt change)I would land blast any newcomer i had that night.Tonight i just realized i never cared if they would lived or died or changed! That is when i started to see how fucked up kids was.I hated to restrain kids i would rather fight one on one.I used to scream alot and it took me time after i graduated and left that i was such a kiss ass! cause i never felt in my heart to be that way,it didnt work for me beig yelled at.Most of my newcomers i had I did more drugs in one day then they ever did. thank god for A.A showing me how to get really sober i hated to be controlled to do something i didnt believe in.Thats why i left and now i treat people right unless you fuck with me then i am a bastard.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2003, 05:36:00 PM »
Who are you? Glad to hear your sober and a part of AA. What a differnt reality of being sober from Kids to AA. What a wake up call it was for me. I was one of those people that most of you think back and can`t believe I am alcoholic, but I am ! And do go to AA and when I run into people from Kids in meetings they say, "What are you doing here?" Even though I did not drink nearly as much as most alcoholics , I still believe I am. I know my drinking & druging would of only gotton worse if I had the oppertunity to keep drinking.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2003, 12:58:00 AM »
Hey this the first timer now logged in as LastnLine. Send me an e-mail who you are. :evil:

Wicked men obey from fear, good men from love.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2003, 02:32:00 PM »
DIO rocks, heard the new album?
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2003, 08:20:00 AM »
Actually no i haven't. I have the first three cd's then strange highways and it sounds like on that one he is losing his voice but the first 3 fire me up! Now i get into KORN and always OZZY,limp bizkit,rage,old metalica,nirvana.In my hey day i was into pink floyd,yes,king crimson,ozzy,led zepp,and old jethro tull the album passion play and dio.I now even get into some new country too i guess i'm getting older  :cry: now that was such a stupid rule to follow for the rest of your life!

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345371984/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'> Douglas Adams, _Last Chance to See_

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2003, 06:40:00 PM »
I heard new DIO is cool, I haven't heard it though.  You do have the right to listen to what you want, but admitting to digging "new country"...??  You don't have to "own your wrongs" anymore, my friend..

Kidding.  Country, metal, polka...it all sounds good with a buzz.

Rock on-
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2003, 02:01:00 AM »
Since all of you seemed to have been in AA, and obviously have first-hand experience of it. Do any of you believe that using the " 12-step" program for other situations as in behavior in teenagers, especially the ones who really dont have a problem, is really healthy and a good idea, i dont knw much about the 12 step program, only from what i hear from others which i dont know that it is all true. So can anyone please  give me as much information as possible on it
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2003, 09:35:00 AM »
As an AA member, I do believe it can work for anyone, no matter what your problem may be. But the person needs to want it and be ready. No one can get it if they don`t want it.There are 12 step programs for almost every kind of problem these days.There`s : NA, OA, DA, WA, SA,S/lA, and the list goes on and on.....

 You can check with your state if they have a Directory for Self-Help Network.

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2003, 03:26:00 PM »
Hey just replying so you dont think your being ignored. I really dont know the answer to that question and my own personal expierence with helping out people that do not relate to my story is not good so i wontget into it.I will check out the new cd though thanks for the 411 yo

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2003, 11:53:00 AM »
hello friend.when i was in the group they tried saying i had a drug problem.i know it was a behavior problem.when i feel inraged i go for walks drink alot of water.etc.i do also the serenity prayer easy does it.not even that i know i don't want to hurt anyone.its all will power.i also use my dad for advice,he's in recovery and he speaks the truth and i respect that
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2003, 01:42:00 AM »
SWEETIE, :eek:  THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BEHAVIOR PROBLEM. YOUR ARE NOT IN THERE ANYMORE REMEBER!!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2003, 02:02:00 AM »
YOU GUYS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING IN AA AND WHAT NOT, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THE PROBLEMS YOU SAY YOU DO, OR IS IT MILLER STILL TELL YOU THAT IN YOUR HEAD?  NOW, DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG BUT HAVING A DRINK, OR DRINKING TO RELAX OR TO FEEL A LITTLE GOOD DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE AN ALCOHOLIC. MOST OF US THAT WENT IN WERE JUST GOING THROUGH A STAGE IN LIFE THAT ACTUALLY IS NORMAL. I WENT IN THERE AND WAS TOLD I WAS A DRUGGIE. I NEVER DID DRUGS AND WOULD SIP OFF OF MY FRIENDS IF THEY HAD BEER. WHEN I LEFT THE PROGRAM I WAS AFRAID TO EVEN LOOK AT BEER, AFTER A WHILE I LEARNED ABOUT A THING CALLED SELF CONTROL AND I LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AND ENJOY DRINKING HERE AND THERE, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.  I JUST WORRIE THAT SOME OF YOU ARE STILL TRAPPED IN THE WORLD OF "NEWTON". THERE IS SOOOO MUCH MORE TO LIFE. HE TWISTED EVERYTHING AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE WEEK AND USED THE STRONGER TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK. THAT MAN KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT GETTING STRAIGHT OR SOBER, LET ALONE LOVE AND CARE AND LIFE ITSELF.  YOU YOU TRULY BELIVE THAT YOU HAVE THE PROBLEMS YOU SAY YOU DO, THEN I CONGRADULATE YOU AND WISH YOU THE BEST. BUT IF YOU DO NOT BELIVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THEN GO FOR HELP.    TAKE CARE  :wave:
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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2003, 10:56:00 AM »
i know that is the clinical way of saying it,but i don't lie to my self.i do have an out of control temper and i work on it everyday,bc i dont like the way i fell and also what i've done to others in my past.so if you knew my past from group you would understand.i don't hold resentments.i knew it wasn't for me so i left,i wasnt going to let the rest of my life fade away.i had a lot of years to make up for :idea:
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2003, 10:06:00 PM »
Holy shit stop doing whatever got you all jacked up why all the yelling and hype! :silly:)SO YOU HAVE A NICE DAY  :wave:  

It is one of the most beautiful compensations of life, that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2003, 10:38:00 PM »
Sme people there had problems.
REAL problems.
And as a result, we all had REAL problems, although I don't believe that drugs or booze or food or whatever the fuck Miller Newton tried to cure us of.

Some of us can cope and drink socially or smoke or maintain a high.  Some can't.  We'are all different.  I applaud anyone who chooses to stay clean/sober after Kids.
Whatever sort of support you choose to utilize for your personal betterment is fine with me.

This group of people...
Some of you I know (Kim F., Mike J., JEff Z., Larry G., Mike A., and others from when I was in NJ.  I also remember others from El Paso and communicate on that board a lot as well...
Others I don't know, have never met and may never meet, but yet we all share the unique perspective from our experience in Kids.  
There's not many people I can talk to who would understand how it has affected my thinking to this day, some 13 years after I walked away from there.

I hope those that remember me get in touch.
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