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Offline Dr Phil

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« on: September 24, 2006, 02:02:16 AM »
By ALAN SCHER ZAGIER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, September 19, 2006; 8:59 PM

ST. LOUIS -- Teen drug users know better than to cross paths with police officers walking the beat or school principals roaming the hallways. Now there's a new enemy in the generational war on drugs: drug testing-parents.

The explosion of Internet commerce has been a boon for sellers of home drug-testing kits, who can send their products directly to concerned parents without fear of embarrassment or nosy neighbors.

At least one company, TestMyTeen.com of Fenton, is taking an even more direct approach by donating up to $5,000 worth of testing equipment directly to school districts in Missouri, which in turn are asked to spread the message to parents.

"There's a big gap between reality and what parents think is reality," said company owner Mason Duchatschek. "They all think drugs are a big issue, but not with their kids."

Duchatschek, 38, owns another company that provides drug-testing equipment to corporations such as Miller Brewing Co. and Purina Mills. Early last year, he created the Internet-based business, seeking out interested school districts at trade shows, school board conventions and cold calls.

School districts in Missouri, Texas and Wisconsin have embraced the program, which offers participating schools a percentage of sales income from parent purchases to be used for school drug-prevention efforts.

The schools, in turn, promote the home drug-test kits by hanging banners in gyms and auditoriums, making announcements during football games and school plays and circulating flyers with slogans such as "No thanks. Our parents test us."

"It's another (drug prevention) resource that's available," said Jim Heiden, superintendent of the Cudahy, Wis., school district in suburban Milwaukee.

The effectiveness of such measures, though, is subject to debate.

Drug prevention researchers warn about the prospect of false-positive tests and note the lack of evidence suggesting such measures lead to a decrease in drug use.

Other critics cite the invasive nature of the tests and the damage done to the parent-child bond.

"It's a sacrifice of human dignity," said Dan Viets, an attorney for the mid-Missouri chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

School participation in home drug testing by parents is an "end around" a Supreme Court ruling that limits random drug testing of students unless they are involved in extracurricular activities, he said.

"When the schools get involved they're going beyond what the Supreme Court allows," said Viets, a criminal defense attorney who often represents people accused of violating drug laws.

Heiden said he shares some of those privacy concerns and doesn't ask Duchatschek to provide statistics on the number of kits sold in his district as well as the results. He also decided to not participate in the company's "School Alliance" rebate program.

"I don't want to make money off other people," said Heiden.

For $15 per kit, parents can conduct a urinalysis that provides instant results to detect the presence of 10 types of drugs in their child's system: marijuana; cocaine; amphetamine; methamphetamine; barbiturates; opiates; oxycodone; MDMA, or Ecstasy; benzodiazepines; and proxyphene.

There are also saliva swabs, which Duchatschek notes can be easily stored in a car's glove compartment, as well as oral tests that detect alcohol and tobacco use.

"It makes parents the bad guy," he said. "That's a socially acceptable excuse that every kid can use without feeling like a chump."

For Mike Peterson, of St. Clair, home drug-testing kits "absolutely saved my son's life."

Peterson began administering the tests two years ago, when his 14-year-old son Benjamin grew surly and distant and brought home poor grades from school.

The first test came back positive for four categories: cocaine, barbiturates, marijuana and amphetamines.

When Benjamin Peterson denied using drugs, his father took the test himself: The results were clean.

Two years and one painful withdrawal later, Mike Peterson continues to randomly test his son, using a computer-derived testing schedule generated by TestMyTeen.com software and a reward/consequences contract also modeled after the company's sample material.

If Benjamin tests positive, he loses his driving privileges and cell phone use for one month. A second positive test and he loses both for good.

"I let him know he had a new best friend _ that drug test kit," Mike Peterson said.

Heiden, the Wisconsin superintendent, said students at the middle and high school in his school district "have been very accepting of the whole thing."

And Peterson, a computer business owner, said testing his child for drugs was a sign of caring, not betrayal.

"If you really love your kids, you're not going to be afraid to test them," he said. "If they're clean, they're not going to have a problem."

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 12:44:54 PM »
Culture of Fear at its best.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 01:43:19 PM »
Why not just chain the kid up in the basement and slip him a tray of food 3 times a day? Then you can be absolutley sure he's not doing anything...not doing anything at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 02:02:34 PM »
We have moved away from a culture of 'innocent until proven guilty' to a culture of 'you are under suspicion at all times.' This is a horrible development.

Our society basically says that no one is to be trusted; and just to make sure, we will monitor everyone and everything and if you mess up we will use zero-tolerance and tough-on-crime attitudes to hold you accountable and punish you as severely as possible.

If intregrity is defined by 'what you do when no one is looking.' This new culture can never teach integrity to its children. The only way for children to learn integrity is to practice it. That means they must be faced with situations where they must make decisions without the cameras and drug tests. They need to practice standing up for themselves and what they believe in. The need to learn to resist peer pressure and group thinking. They will make mistakes. They are children, and just learning.

We cannot possibly teach children the importance of honesty when they are constantly under suspicion and therefore constantly monitored. I question the integrity of school officials and parents that insist on such close monitoring.

People who are dishonest themselves will be lacking trust in others. They assume others are as dishonest as they are. Honest people trust other people because they assume most people are as honest as they are.

Do not confuse trust with naivety. Honest people are actually better at avoiding scams than dishonest ones. A good example are internet scams. People get conned because they are looking for a fast buck, not an honest dollar.

I am so glad I grew up when I did and am not a kid in today's culture of distrust and paranoia.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 02:25:28 PM »
Quote from: ""AtomicAnt""
We have moved away from a culture of 'innocent until proven guilty' to a culture of 'you are under suspicion at all times.' This is a horrible development.

Our society basically says that no one is to be trusted; and just to make sure, we will monitor everyone and everything and if you mess up we will use zero-tolerance and tough-on-crime attitudes to hold you accountable and punish you as severely as possible.

If intregrity is defined by 'what you do when no one is looking.' This new culture can never teach integrity to its children. The only way for children to learn integrity is to practice it. That means they must be faced with situations where they must make decisions without the cameras and drug tests. They need to practice standing up for themselves and what they believe in. The need to learn to resist peer pressure and group thinking. They will make mistakes. They are children, and just learning.

We cannot possibly teach children the importance of honesty when they are constantly under suspicion and therefore constantly monitored. I question the integrity of school officials and parents that insist on such close monitoring.

People who are dishonest themselves will be lacking trust in others. They assume others are as dishonest as they are. Honest people trust other people because they assume most people are as honest as they are.

Do not confuse trust with naivety. Honest people are actually better at avoiding scams than dishonest ones. A good example are internet scams. People get conned because they are looking for a fast buck, not an honest dollar.

I am so glad I grew up when I did and am not a kid in today's culture of distrust and paranoia.

A thought provoking thesis. However, the last two paragraphs (before the conclusion) seem a bit contradictory. If a person is too trusting they can be taken advantage of. Like you said, honest people trust people more than dishonest people do. Not to take away from your statement about the honest dollar, that is true as well, but a good con-artist could more easily succeed in screwing over an honest person than if they tried to pull the same thing with a dishonest person. Like what they used to say at Straight, "You can't con a con."
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2006, 03:24:26 PM »
There is not really a contradiction. 'Too trusting' is another way of saying 'naive.'

Experience has taught me that most people are decent and honest and can be trusted. Experience has also taught me how to spot a con. If something is too good to be true, it is. If the 'seller' is using pressure tactics or rushing me, its a con. People can be honest and trusting and still exercise critical thinking skills to spot when somthing is amiss.

But we digress. The real question is how do we teach or expect honesty and integrity in a culture that suspects and monitors everyone and trusts no one?

The same holds true for accountability. The word accountability was hardly ever muttered in my youth, but we hear it everyday these days. But when you look closely, you find that the culture wants to hold others accountable, not themselves. They want to sue someone, they want to blame someone, they want to punish someone. But it is always someone else. Therefore, the culture of accountability is just the culture of blame.

Believe me when I say that the basic morals of the country have shifted profoundly since I was a kid.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2006, 03:47:50 PM »
I think while they are drug testing teenagers the parents doing the testing should be tested for drugs/prescriptions/alcohol themselves. I bet that would nip that idea right in the bud.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2006, 04:19:43 PM »
The apple rarely falls far from the tree.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2006, 07:23:40 PM »
Totally agree, if the son/daughter is tested, all is fair in love and war, the parent should be tested too, why not?

Unless you are not being honest with your son or daughter......
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2006, 10:56:55 AM »
The family that pees together....

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