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Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« on: September 19, 2006, 01:47:17 PM »
I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.
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Re: Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 04:56:24 PM »
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I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.


I resent you saying that it is our imaginations causing us to tell the truth about what we experienced at Hyde.  Great that you went for the day and saw all these great things you talk about.  You cannot judge a book by it's cover and you only saw the cover.  Talk to the kids who are no longer at Hyde if you want a true picture.
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Re: Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 05:33:48 PM »
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I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.


I have no doubt that you heard very positive things about Hyde.  I'm sure some good things are happening.  There are some good people there who are very professional.  However, I resent your assertion that all of the comments on this web site are "rubbish."  The clear fact is that some Hyde students and families have been mistreated terribly by some staff.  Some staff (not all) have been very unprofessional and emotionally abusive.  It's important to adknowledge this reality.  Perhaps you're not aware of the number of families that leave Hyde because of the unprofessional behavior they've encountered there.  It may be useful to hear what THEY have to say.  That would provide a more complete picture.  Talking only to those who stay at Hyde isn't a complete picture, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2006, 05:37:23 PM »
What's your point?
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 06:24:48 PM »
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What's your point?

Point is that Hyde was very damaging to many kids and families, including mine.
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Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 06:31:27 PM »
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What's your point?
Point is that Hyde was very damaging to many kids and families, including mine.

WEll alrighty then!  :D
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 06:58:53 PM »
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What's your point?
Point is that Hyde was very damaging to many kids and families, including mine.

Jeckyll wasn't so bad though...  :D
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 06:22:32 AM »
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What's your point?
Point is that Hyde was very damaging to many kids and families, including mine.
Jeckyll wasn't so bad though...  :D


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Re: Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2006, 06:24:08 AM »
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I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.


  when were you there? I was there 75 - 77.
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Re: Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2006, 08:52:54 AM »
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I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.

I resent you saying that it is our imaginations causing us to tell the truth about what we experienced at Hyde.  Great that you went for the day and saw all these great things you talk about.  You cannot judge a book by it's cover and you only saw the cover.  Talk to the kids who are no longer at Hyde if you want a true picture.


I'm sorry that you resent what I say, but perhaps you should be a liittle less paranoid and defensive (unless you find that behavior to have really worked well for you-maybe that was part of the reason Hyde was a problem for you). There's lots of rubbish on this site, I don't think anyone rational would argue against that. There's probably some truth buried in there as well.

After reading some of the accusations from people who never even set foot on Hyde's property but are relying on the rants of strangers to form their opinions, I'd say there is some excessive imaginations on the loose here. The picture I saw I believe is true, based on some extensive and revealing conversations I had with some random students, staff and faculty I spoke with. Are there some kids/families who are no longer there and had a less-than-satisfying experience? I'm sure there are. There are many people that aren't very happy with their dining experience at The Olive Garden and won't eat there again. Oh well. But certainly there are a few who seem to return regularly and new ones every day. If only they knew how poorly cooked your lasagna was and how rude your waitress was, they certainly would never eat there.

Thanks for sharing your bad experience, but get over it and move on. Hyde School is serving up a pretty impressive educational and character-building experience from what I saw (albeit an intense and demanding one) and I think they're making an effort to improve it continually. I stand by my original comments. Sorry it didn't work out as well for you.
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Re: Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2006, 09:08:14 AM »
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I came back to the Bath campus for a few days recently after many years away and was impressed with how things were going. The campus was beautiful and well cared for (with a new addition to the gym building, several new dorms and sports fields) and a new library under construction. I spoke with a few faculty (none who were here in my day) and some kids, and they had a lot of good things to say about what's going on. Kids still screw up and go on work crew to reflect on their transgressions, but the brother's keeper concept is perhaps an even bigger part of the program and I was amazed at how some of the seniors (in particular) took their responsibilities seriously to help younger kids sort things out and stay on track. Still early in the school year, but it seems to be off to a good start. I don't know where all the rubbish I see here on this site is coming from, but I didn't see any of the cruelty, abuse, etc. being attributed to Hyde and I didnt hear it from the random cross-section of people I spoke with. Take what you read on this site with caution, as there are some active and destructive imaginations out there. I hope this gives another perspective to things.

I have no doubt that you heard very positive things about Hyde.  I'm sure some good things are happening.  There are some good people there who are very professional.  However, I resent your assertion that all of the comments on this web site are "rubbish."  The clear fact is that some Hyde students and families have been mistreated terribly by some staff.  Some staff (not all) have been very unprofessional and emotionally abusive.  It's important to adknowledge this reality.  Perhaps you're not aware of the number of families that leave Hyde because of the unprofessional behavior they've encountered there.  It may be useful to hear what THEY have to say.  That would provide a more complete picture.  Talking only to those who stay at Hyde isn't a complete picture, I think.


Sounds to me like the same person (or at least the same resentfulness, although since they're not signed in, it's hard to tell), but I'll answer again since you seem somewhat reasonable. If you read my post over carefully, I did not say that ALL comments on this site are rubbish, but there seems to be a LOT of rubbish here, which diminishes the credibility of the site and many of the individuals who post in angry, irrational tones. I was referring to "the rubbish", of which their seems to be quite a lot, not necessarily you. Please don't be so quick to take offense.

I'm not aware of the number of people who leave because of the unprofessional behavior they encountered, but I hope Hyde is. If in fact this (alleged) unprofessional behavior is contributing to the loss of kids and families that could benefit from Hyde, then they need to make some changes to prevent that from happening in the future. I know they sometimes seem arrogant and seem to push the "blame" back on students or family, but I think they have to look deeper than that if they want to see the success of their educational philosophy embraced by more people. Otherwise, they will just shoot themselves in the foot again and again.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2006, 08:29:48 PM »
That's pretty common here apparently. A handful of people with an axe to grind who spend WAY too much time bashing things that they were incapable of understanding. The world OWES them something, and they shouldn't have to work at it...
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Hyde is even better than when I was there in the 70's
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 08:13:25 AM »
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What's your point?
Point is that Hyde was very damaging to many kids and families, including mine.
Jeckyll wasn't so bad though...  :D

  hey


Dr. Jekyll was a great guy; successful and much admired by society.  His problem was that he had unresolved dark corners of his personality he wasn't willing to deal with.  In pre-Freud days to explore repression so brilliantly is the diamond that makes the novel sparkle.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 10:38:00 AM »
Please try to keep things on-topic.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 12:25:44 PM »
Dr. Jekyll was a great guy; successful and much admired by society. His problem was that he had unresolved dark corners of his personality he wasn't willing to deal with. In pre-Freud days to explore repression so brilliantly is the diamond that makes the novel sparkle.

Please try to keep things on-topic.

This is on topic... you must see that, right?

GE
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