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« on: September 10, 2006, 08:58:08 PM »
OK people. This is the start of a brand new week.

Remember The WTC.....5 years ago....9-11.....

Take a moment to reflect on the tragedy that happened in our beautiful country. In our beautiful city. NYC. Show gratitude to the men and women who are putting their lives and asses on the line so we can live free. So we never have to live in fear of another terrorist attack. So our children can walk to school without having to duck bullets. We may moan about the "unfair" things in our lives but look at these unfortunate people in other countries. Countries where it is common to see a terrorist car bomb attack or to see soldiers with guns up and down the streets. Countries where women are beaten and raped in broad daylight surronded by their helpless families only because they are on the wrong side of the war. Children that are raped by men with AIDS because these men believe virgin children cure AIDS. Countries where adults and children die by the dozens on a daily basis due to lack of medical care, food, water. Countries where the adults and children are grateful to get ripped and ragged clothing. Grateful to get to big for their feet shoes. Because 5 minutes previous they were barefoot.
Countries where kids laughing and playing and coloring with pretty crayons does not exsist. Countries where watching tv or going to the movies is unheard of. They believe these things are not real. They are fantasy. Forget about the women going to Walmart for diapers or baby formula or even Tylenol cold medicine. Their baby's often go hungry. Wear rags or nothing for diapers. Suffer from childhood illness. These luxury items do not exsist for these mothers and house wives. These people kill their chicken (if they are lucky enough to own a chicken) but usually they are eating rice and a meager ration of vegetables. Not the ripe red tomatoes we have. Not the hudge Yukon Gold potatoes we smother with sour cream and chives. Not the crispy green peppers we dip into a yummy dip at parties. Nope they get wilted and usually small vegetables from their garden. Lack of water and special fertilizers are to thank for their pathetic vegetables. Or their neighbors/drifters/soldiers steal it from them first.
No Dunkin Donuts or dollar menu for these people.
Before anyone bellyaches about how much life sucks and everything is so unfair or your mad because you did not get a pricey item of jewlery, clothing, electronics, ect, ect consider for one moment that there are people in our world that have never ever had a fraction of what you have had. That goes for food, clothing, medical care, hygeine, education, housing, entertainment, security, love, contentment, stability, ect. ect.
I thank my lucky stars every freakin day that I live here in the USA. That my dad fought in WW2 for the US and that soldiers are now up day and night trying to protect me. A stranger. They are trying to protect a great country. Flawed it may be but a country filled with possibilities nonetheless.
I am grateful I can get medicine for my earaches or get a tooth pulled if need be. Or my Tia Jackie was able to get chemotherapy. My daddy (RIP) got top notch medical care to extend his life. I am able to eat a healthy meal every day. 3x a day if need be. I have warm clothing. Shoes. Toothpaste.
My husband can get to work in his car. Hell he has a job that puts food on the table and keeps our light bill paid monthly.
I can go to school and that my daughter can be whatever her little 7 year old heart desires. This week she's a ballerina in space. LOL.
Time to walk my husbands Tia's doggy on my safe street in a free country. God Bless America! God Bless Freedom! God Bless Our Soldiers! RIP WTC and 9/11 victims...You are not forgotten!
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 10:11:58 PM »
Hillarious that the picture of the glowing, starry-eyed little girl from Hitler's Youth got deleted. That one obviously sailed right over everybody's head.

The point was, the post above sounds like "What's everybody bitching about? Things are great in this country". Things were pretty nice in Nazi Germany too. But you couldn't speak out about anything without suffering the consequences. You just had to smile, and be happy about what a great country you lived in. And they went to great lengths to instill that into the kids.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2006, 07:53:17 AM »
I despise the fact that this country channels all kinds of monetary aid to foreign countries when there are children HERE going hungry every single day and night.
There are homeless people here that need housing not in some place no one has even heard of.
Why do our Senior citizens have to pick between heart medicine and food?
I see it every single day. More and more senior citizens are having to eat at soup kitchens because ALL of their money goes to medicine and/or living expenses (rent).
This is how we treat the people who were the backbones to our country?
The fact is unless your rich you can't afford to retire.

Or even get sick. God forbid you get cancer. You lose your entire life savings. Entire. If you attempt to get insurance from the state you live in to pay for your chemo/radiation you need to be POOR.
That means any money you managed to save for your children and/or golden years has to be spent. Before you will get said insurance. If you own a car worth over 1,500$ you need to sell it and put the money towards your medical expenses, get proof then you will get the insurance. You need to sell your home or condo.
I know this all to be true. It happened as I say to my father in law. He hid all of his money in a safe in the house (it was bolted to the floor) and put everything else in someone elses name. Then he had to prove he spent the assets the state knew about. So he bought all kinds of crap he did not want or need. Money that should of been saved but he was not allowed to save it for his future. Only his home was left after ALL this. He had to agree to allow the hospital to put a lein on it to pay for the chemo/radiation tx that the state insurance would not cover retroactively. The home that was meant for his son's. But if he lived they would lift the lein only when he payed off his medical bills. This they would give him time to do. Generous huh?
Before he got this insurance he was using Tylenol to treat the pain of his cancer!
He could not afford the pain meds without insurance.
He did not realize that he could of bought it off the street. He was not aware of such things.
He then got ulcers. Not one. Many. From his Tylenol therapy.
Bleeding and painfull ulcers. On top of the cancer that was rapidly spreading.
He ended up with the insurance. Got his treatments and pain management and eventually hospice.
He was treated like a crinimal because he dared ask for medical insurance with a raggedy car worth nearly 3,000$ in his possesion. Let us not forget the 25,000$ he had in the bank. WOW! he was rollin in the riches huh? How dare he ask for help? Obviously I am using sarcasm here.
And the house. A house owned for 20+ years that STILL had a mortgage on it. He was living off the rents from the other 2 tenants. They payed the mortgage and taxes and water bill. Not him.
You see people if he was not self employed as a real estate agent he would of been better off.
Not every single person has these issues if they get cancer/sick.
But they do have similar ones.

The moral of the story. Do not ever stop working. Do not ever get sick. Hide all of your assets if you do get sick.

After all we pay rock stars and sports figures MILLIONS of dollars to "entertain" us. I guess entertainment is more important than someones health or food or housing. Disgusting is it not?
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 08:18:19 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Hillarious that the picture of the glowing, starry-eyed little girl from Hitler's Youth got deleted. That one obviously sailed right over everybody's head.

The point was, the post above sounds like "What's everybody bitching about? Things are great in this country". Things were pretty nice in Nazi Germany too. But you couldn't speak out about anything without suffering the consequences. You just had to smile, and be happy about what a great country you lived in. And they went to great lengths to instill that into the kids.


 Nobody said that "everything is hunky dory in the US so stop your bitchin".
The US is flawed. Very flawed.
But if you think it is so oppressive here then tell me where would you like to live?
Every single place you go there will be problems.
If one of us speaks out about Bush we will not be bumrushed in our homes and have our belongings confiscated and then get shipped off to a concentration camp.
That is where the real fun began...
Does anyone really need a pro's/con's list of the US verses another country?
Do the things mentioned in the original post happen here in the US?
Yes,people get hurt and raped and go hungry and go homeless in the US. They also do in a beautifull Caribbean island.
In Jamaica crime and poverty run rampant.
Nothing is perfect. No country is perfect. Some things and places are better than others. That is as good as it gets. People everyday do their own personal best to improve things either globally or locally or both.
I would never compare Nazi Germany to the USA. That is a little ridiculous don't ya think?
I would love to hear where people would like to live besides the US.
And why they would rather live there.
I do not agree 100% with all that goes down in the US. Never will. But I am very gratefull that I have the things that I do as a result of living here.
I have respect for the people who try to make this country a better place to live in.
I also have respect for the people fighting this war against terrorism.
Take it out on the government not the soldiers.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2006, 11:05:32 AM »
The original post sites material things and security as evidence of our freedom in this country. We all live in this nice gated community and have very little sense of all the suffering that goes on elswhere in the world. But, one thing that has been overlooked by many, is that here, we can bitch about whatever we want, without fear of being thrown in jail, or otherwise punished... or can we?

After the 9/11 attacks, the government immediately began stripping away our freedom, and no one had the guts to bitch about it, because that would have been "unpatriotic". They began chipping away at our rights, and taking them away, one by one. It was months before anyone started to question any of this, and by that time, it was too late. I remember John Ashcroft getting questioned by the press about many of the things they were pushing through, related to the Patriot Act. He got seriously annoyed, and said something to the effect of "We need to stick together on this. Stop complaining, that's what the terrorists want." He actually had the nerve to insinuate that questioning the actions of our government was wrong, and that anyone who did so, was "just helping the terrorists". He was just playing right into the hand of those who attacked us in the first place. Bin Laden said something like "Freedom in the US will begin to erode". He was right.

Protesters at major political events have been corralled off in cages. People have been arrested at presidential appearances just for wearing teeshirts that have undesireable statements on them. The government is now allowed to spy on its own citzens. People have been thrown in jail for months or years, without any formal charges being brought against them, just for "suspicion of terrorist ties". Don't complain, don't say anything, we need to stick together on this, right? The terrorists want us to all fight amongst ourselves, we should be unified, right? No, those who attacked us wanted us to be so afraid of losing our money, and so afraid of being killed, that we would give up as much of our freedom as the government wants to take, without even objecting. And that's exactly what happened.

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

Many people have died, in order to preserve our freedom -- freedom to question the actions of our government, freedom to speak out about social injustices, freedom to have privacy from the prying eyes of those in charge, freedom from being thrown in a "re-education camp", without any legal proceedings whatsoever.

No, this isn't Nazi Germany. But if we continue to just sit back and give up our rights in the name of safety, we will lose everything. At the rate things are going, it's only a matter of time.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2006, 07:07:27 PM »
Remember after 9/11 all those yahoo's were attacking people and their property because they "looked like terrorist"? Then come to find out these so called terrorist were really Indian or even Spanish! Everyone looked at those people that may of been from the middle east with such hatred and contempt. It was scary where I lived because there are alot of middle eastern people that own little business's all over the city. Dollar stores and mini marts and the like. There were many incidents of threats being spray painted on houses and business's even their cars. Not to mention the phone calls (threats) and robberies and unsolicitated attacks.


The point of those specific examples was to point out that the USA as flawed as it may be still has it a hell of alot better than other places in certain aspects. So I used medical care, housing, education ect. to point out how we often take such seemingly insignificant things for granted.
For example Tylenol. You do not think twice about reaching into your medicine cabinet and grabbing it for a headache. 9 times out of 10 it is usually there. Plus if Tylenol is not your choice there are so many others including generic brands.
I mentioned baby's diapers and formula. If your indigent and have a baby there are multiple agencies that will provide formula and diapers for your little bambino. No baby will go hungry or wet in this country. Unless the mommy is an incompetant moron.
Children do not have to go hungry. Schools give away free breakfast's to the kids who receive free hot lunches.
There are many resources for food. From food stamps to soup kitchens to food banks.
Clothing from clothing banks, Goodwill, church's, ect.
School supplies for free from schools(speak to your kids teacher they will oblige you) there are even programs through the local welfare offices that supplies kids with brand new backpacks, lunch box's, umbrella's, markers, pencils, ect. Just ask.

We are fortunate in the USA to have alot of resources at our disposal to take care of just about anything a man, woman or child would need.

I wanted people to remember that right now there are young men and women and older ones who are fighting for our "freedoms"
in a horrific war. A war they did not want. A war they did not ask for. Some do not agree with it but they are optimistic and believe that they are doing the correct thing by fighting in this war.

I really hope that our government (made up of white, rich, old coots) appreciates that these young people of all races and backgrounds are putting their butts on the line for a war they started. These old politicians lived their lives. The young soldiers may die without knowing the joy of being married or parenting a child or owning a home. Some may argue about marrige being a joy though. LOL. :rofl:

I appreciate the sacrifices being made but who am I in the grand scheme of things?

Thank you for your post btw. I learned a few things from your point of view. I appreciate the fact that you did not rip mine apart because it was not in sync with your opinions. Thanks for being respectfull. Rare to find here and just about everywhere now a days.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 09:23:53 PM »
Thought the people (besides me) posting here would appreciate this ....


http://fromtheinside.us/multi-media/vid ... iting.html
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 02:16:28 AM »
I really hope that our government (made up of white, rich, old coots) appreciates that these young people of all races and backgrounds are putting their butts on the line for a war they started

are you kidding?this  generation is being sacrificed  for the greater good of corp. Amerika .did you see the profits the oil companies posted recently?the sad thing is our  18 to 30 yr olds have been so   mindfucked by the tv,  that they dont even realize it. at least the hippies fought back. or just dropped out.

the bush regime has left its mark, in more ways than 1 on this country, how long will it take to repair the damage? does anyone trust the goverment anymore, can you expect them to do the right thing when needed? the rich get richer,, the poor get poorer, the diff between the 2 gets greater. with all the fuck ups in the last 6 years, all we get is the same old finger pointing diversions running on  all the corp news channels.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2006, 06:33:36 AM »
are you kidding?this generation is being sacrificed for the greater good of corp. Amerika .did you see the profits the oil companies posted recently?the sad thing is our 18 to 30 yr olds have been so mindfucked by the tv, that they dont even realize it. at least the hippies fought back. or just dropped out.

the bush regime has left its mark, in more ways than 1 on this country, how long will it take to repair the damage? does anyone trust the goverment anymore, can you expect them to do the right thing when needed? the rich get richer,, the poor get poorer, the diff between the 2 gets greater. with all the fuck ups in the last 6 years, all we get is the same old finger pointing diversions running on all the corp news channels.
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2006, 06:39:03 AM »
This is certainly not the country i grew up in. It now has every thing to do with money.Even the car business has gone corporate.Though every car deal is a mini.I have a number of friends selling cars and they are starving.A number of friends selling service,they are starving.Still they continue to build large dealerships and service dept's.Someone is making money and its no  longer about ":the people".
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2006, 02:15:18 PM »
Isn't it sad that these young people who were so gung ho to go fight the enemy are just being exploited?
They like many others thought that this was a war to get the big bad terrorist.
I was in the library last night and they have a 9/11 memorial wall.
So all these kids under the age of 18 wrote little blurbs about 9/11.
Most were sweet little prayers for the victims.
Then there were angry outbursts towards our country and President.
It made me proud actually that the future leaders of this country had these thoughts. I felt ok for a moment to know that these intelligent and insightfull kids would be running things when I get old.
They blamed Bush and Rice for knowing in advance that this would happen and that Bush was an incompetant leader for dropping the ball.
Then there was one that said something to the effect of Bush is using the soldiers to fight a war over oil control not terrorism.
My favorite was the one that said " Shame on you Bush, Your a jerk "  I bet that will be taken down soon. It is a public library after all.
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