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« on: August 31, 2006, 05:29:08 PM »
How many parents/former parents are aware that HLA rountinely strip searches each child upon return to campus?
 
Does your parent handbook specifically address strip searches?

Did you receive anything in writing from HLA regarding strip searches?

Did you authorize the strip searches or question HLA about them after you found out about them? What was their response?

Students/Former Students - were you told or led to believe your parents knew about the strip searches and approved them?

Let's get the truth out in the open.
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 05:52:50 PM »
I was aware that searches occurred but NOT strip searches.
I (we) did not grant permission to HLA to perform such searches.
My son never mentioned it until I asked him;  he assumed we
knew.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 11:32:05 PM »
We were never privy to the strip searches until our return with our children from the second workshop break... there was a "slip" of the tongue, in front of me. I was in shock. It is not, repeat not , in the Parent Handbook....I never gave my permission for my minor child to be strip searched... I was never informed by HLA of the strip search policy prior or during enrollment....After that workshop,plans began to pull
our child, which we did....not only for the strip searching, but we felt during that workshop that all was not what was presented to be..along with many other parents in our group...
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2006, 02:07:02 AM »
its mentioned (breifly) in the hanbook that my mom had.  One time when she took me back to campus she told thme not to do it and they said i wouldnt be allowed back on campus unless they did, since she wasnt my legal gaurdian at the time there wasnt a lot they could do about it (the person she talked to wasnt aware of this however), but they seemed completely indifferent to her complaints.  I have no idea if its mentioned in the current handbook (the hanbook we had even for the time i was there was extreemely out of date), or in previous handbooks.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2006, 08:03:18 AM »
Quote from: ""kid_thorazine""
its mentioned (breifly) in the hanbook that my mom had.  One time when she took me back to campus she told thme not to do it and they said i wouldnt be allowed back on campus unless they did, since she wasnt my legal gaurdian at the time there wasnt a lot they could do about it (the person she talked to wasnt aware of this however), but they seemed completely indifferent to her complaints.  I have no idea if its mentioned in the current handbook (the hanbook we had even for the time i was there was extreemely out of date), or in previous handbooks.


Did the handbook state "searches" or "strip searches"? There's a huge difference. My handbook from 2005 only says "searches".
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2006, 08:10:35 AM »
I knew from the beginning that it would be strip searches and understood the reason for them.  The kids at HLA are often there for drug and alcohol use, shoplifting, etc.  These are not teens who have been angels and honest with parents.  And I am speaking as a parent of a sweet teen who breaks rules just to break them.  Do I like the fact that she must be searched--no.  It makes me sick, but better to be safe than sorry.  And drugs, cigarettes and other items would be brought back to campus without the searches.  I do know that two adults are present, the search is done in stages.  Everything brought onto to campus, from books to clothing are also carefully searched.  And the reasons are explained.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2006, 08:42:08 AM »
Though some people obviously disagree with the searches in general, I think the main complaint here is lack of disclosure about the searches.  HLA purposefully leaves out information about strip searches.  I personally understand the need for them in that environment.  HLA should make it clear to the parents, however, that the strip searches will take place.  Not all parents make the assumption that you made.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2006, 10:00:14 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I knew from the beginning that it would be strip searches and understood the reason for them.  The kids at HLA are often there for drug and alcohol use, shoplifting, etc.  These are not teens who have been angels and honest with parents.  And I am speaking as a parent of a sweet teen who breaks rules just to break them.  Do I like the fact that she must be searched--no.  It makes me sick, but better to be safe than sorry.  And drugs, cigarettes and other items would be brought back to campus without the searches.  I do know that two adults are present, the search is done in stages.  Everything brought onto to campus, from books to clothing are also carefully searched.  And the reasons are explained.


Just out of curiousity, what do you mean "everyhing is done in stages?"
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 10:44:20 AM »
I didn't write the original email, but I can explain what is meant by stages.

If done correctly, the student is never completely naked.  They would take of thier shirt and have it and their uper body searched.  They would then put their shirt back on.  They would then remove their pants, and so on.

Still...not a fun process for the student or the staff.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 11:22:26 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I didn't write the original email, but I can explain what is meant by stages.

If done correctly, the student is never completely naked.  They would take of thier shirt and have it and their uper body searched.  They would then put their shirt back on.  They would then remove their pants, and so on.

Still...not a fun process for the student or the staff.


Ok, well no it wasnt "done in stages". I sood there bare assed and unshirtted plently of times.

And most staff didnt seem to have much problem with it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 11:39:13 AM »
No stages, just bare ass naked for as long as the staff deems neccesary.
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2006, 11:46:36 AM »
For all the parents out there who have students at HLA, strip searches aren't a thing of the past. They are occuring TODAY - 9/1/2006.

I encourage you to ask your child about them.

The administration at HLA seems to be under the impression that the students aren't "humiliated or degraded" by the strip searches. I think the majority of the kids at HLA would object to that statement.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2006, 12:15:40 PM »
What section of the Parent Manual are any form of searches mentioned? I couldn't find any mention (200-2002), just this letter sent July 2001.

July 2001

As our school continues to expand and improve, we are constantly revisiting policy in order to ensure that the safety of our students, and the security of our campus are never compromised. Our policy regarding student?s traveling off campus has therefore been reassessed and we have adopted new measures to reduce the number of scenarios that have caused parents concern in the past.

Effective immediately, students will be required to leave and return to campus wearing HLA uniform only for all scheduled and approved visits and breaks. Further, they will not be allowed to take any luggage with them, nor return with luggage. To date, students have been allowed to wear other casual or dressy attire and pack the necessary clothing and personal hygiene items they may require for the duration of the break or visit. The ongoing difficulties that we have experienced as a result have been numerous. Students at times would return with inadequate and inappropriate luggage, such as shopping bags or shoulder bags that did not properly close, resulting in lost items. More often, students would often return to campus wearing or having packed new clothing items that were either not needed or were not approved. Similarly, they at times returned with the clothes they left with or they often chose to leave some of these items at home. The effort to keep an accurate record of the student?s personal belonging and clothing inventory on campus has therefore become increasingly more difficult. Further, too often numerous clothing or other personal items have had to be returned to the parents at their expense as a result of the student having too many clothing items, or items that were not in agreement with school policy.  On future breaks, students will be allowed to carry a small bag that will be provided by HLA, to carry their travel information, identification and reading materials.

Of obvious concern to all is the increased risk of a student returning with contraband when they are able to bring back in luggage or other newly acquired items. Currently, staff members are required to search a student?s luggage and belongings upon return to campus to ensure that items, which may jeopardize the safety and security of campus, are located. Students are required to wait until a thorough search of their belongings has been completed. Students will now no longer have to wait for their belongings, as all they require will be in their dorm rooms upon return. Most importantly however, the chance that any contraband might be returned to campus will be significantly reduced.

This new policy will offer other benefits as well. Parents will no longer be required to provide the student with a soft, collapsible piece of luggage. For those students who currently have luggage on campus, they will be asked to take such home with them on their next visit or break. Parents and students will not have to worry about luggage or its contents being lost or damaged, as is sometimes the case when traveling through major airports and over long distances. For those students who are picked up at the airport by HLA staff, they will find that upon returning to campus, they will be searched in a much more timely fashion, then allowed to join their peers at supper or activity.

Please be aware that students will need clothing and personal items at home for each visit or break. While we do understand and deeply regret this may result for some in additional expense to parents, we feel we must take the steps necessary in the best interest of all of our students and parents. Thank you for your cooperation as we work to provide a safe and secure place for your child to work towards a successful future.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 01:00:37 PM »
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Though some people obviously disagree with the searches in general, I think the main complaint here is lack of disclosure about the searches.  HLA purposefully leaves out information about strip searches.  I personally understand the need for them in that environment.  HLA should make it clear to the parents, however, that the strip searches will take place.  Not all parents make the assumption that you made.


drugs still get smuggled in via taped to balls. i knew a kid who smuggled in  around 100 triple c caplets, another brought bud, some chicks smuggled in coke.....i could go on forever....
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2006, 02:16:15 PM »
What about the staff members who give drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes to students.

Should they be strip searched as well?

Oh never mind there arent enough people on staff to complete such a task.
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