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Peninsula Village: Homicidal alumnus...
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2006, 07:42:46 PM »
Here's the PV counselor job description posted on Covenant Health's site recently :

 PROGRAM COUNSELOR
Job Code: 16258
Location: PENINSULA VILLAGE
Department: Girl's Outdoor Program
Description: Full Time: 3 days/4 nights.

Requirements: Social services degree preferred, but H.S. diploma with experience will be considered.

Duties: Work in the outdoor setting with paitents in a residential facility. Provide safety, supervision and therapy to adolescents in our care. Need extreme flexibility with scheduling and extensive availabililty.

Covenant Health is committed to a safe and healthy work environment. Therefore, employment is subject to a successful background check and drug screen. Also, a credit check may be performed on applicable positions that deal with handling money. EOE
Education: High School Diploma/GED
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The highlights are mine.  This was the job listing which caused my  concern about the level of counselor training required at PV.  TSW is right, I know guys who come out of school with doctorates and can't navigate a corner without a crew of cartographers, or operate a door knob without an instruction manual and logistics team.  "Common sense" is never considered as a requirement.  Some mindless twit who's only talent might be regurgitating information he doesn't understand gets a degree for being a parrot.  Parents with unlimited resources can buy an education for  a moron (YOU STAND GUILTY, "W" BUSH!).  I view the RTC counselors  like cops:  Some are ignorant, pig-headed fucks with an agenda that has nothing to do with protecting and serving, just cracking skulls.   Others are committed to doing their jobs as best as possible. I know a couple of cops who did extreme favors for me outside the line of duty.  

How do you tell a bad cop/counselor from a good cop/counselor  during a job interview?  Both jobs have low pay and high risk, so it takes a motivation to seek this kind of work.  Some are motivated by altruistic urges, others want a chance to fuck with people as vengeance for all the years they were shat on.

I would now agree that a B.A. is not going to make someone a good counselor.  One poster who worked at Peninsula Village said she noticed a downward slide in the program there, but it wasn't due to the day-to-day staffers,the blame lies with the clinicians who failed to train them properly.  A counselor without proper skills is only a prison guard.

But back to the Beast...Peninsula Villains wants counselors with high school/GED levels to provide therapy to adolescents, and that should be the responsibility of the staff therapists, not the counselors.

Instead of the term "counselors", "day organizers" might be more appropriate, or "program leaders".   Or, "Julie, your cruise director".

TSW, I've got another Penicillin Villa-PM  on it's way. It'll piss you off, so prepare a large & potent libation in advance.  I know the info made fire shoot out of my ass.
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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2006, 08:33:38 PM »
You can't train someone to love, or legislate love. Furthermore, it would be considered unethical for a staff person to get close enough to their charges to develop real caring.  I recall a  'counselor' (unlicensed) who posted that he'd told one of his boys that he was going to adopt him. The kid was devastated when the guy was remove as his caregiver.

Except for the possible rare individual, these people have no vested interest in the children in their care. May not be any better at home. In that case the parents could consider a friend or relative who might take the kid in. Kids want and fare much better when there are people in their life who genuinely care about them. And they know the difference.
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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2006, 09:25:59 AM »
I believe "counselors" at PV have a range of degrees. During my limited time  there  it appeared as though there were some with GEDs and some who were in graduate programs in psychology or social work. Perhaps running therapy groups with the kids is part of an internship program. Of course this is speculation on my part. Again the reluctance of PV to release ANY information about the very people who spend the most time with the kids makes this difficult to figure out. The only information I received from one of the clinicians is "they are not really supposed to be warm-fuzzy when dealing with the kids"
Oh. OK. Once again I wish I had looked just a bit deeper than the PV website when it came to my attention that my child was going to be transferred there. My child does NOT belong there.
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2006, 09:53:53 AM »
Regardless of their status and level of education an entry level counselor does not need to be running therapy groups. That is for the trained and liscenced therapists.
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2006, 07:21:45 PM »
So back to the beginning, does anyone know what happened to the kid?
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2006, 05:48:26 PM »
An appeal was filed, but nothing came of it.  The PV clinician has long since beat feet.  The counsel for defense should have done more research before selecting their witnesses.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2006, 09:34:51 PM »
Here we go: http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/c ... 1295-1.htm

No way for this kid.  There's no defense for what he did, but I find it hard to believe it could be called premeditated or done in cold blood.  You notice his stay at PV was one year, one month, which is probably when the money was gone.  His grandparents mortgaged their house to send him to PV.  What a shame and a waste of money that was hard to come by.  Believe me, PV is not the place for a kid like him.  More abuse was not what he needed.  "Tough love", considering his childhood...I don't think he knew any real love, but he certainly knew what tough was all about.
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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

\"I\'m there to handle kids that are psychotic, suicidal, homicidal, or have commited felonies. Oh yeah, I am also there to take them down when they are rowdy so the nurse can give them the booty juice.\"

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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2006, 09:42:29 PM »
That is thirteen months of bad luck.
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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2006, 07:03:14 PM »
Wonder how this spoilt mammyjammers holdin up?
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2006, 11:38:05 AM »
This kid will probably be at PV too.  Amazing how his father shows such contempt for the judgement his son received.  He thinks it's a no-brainer that his boy should be set free.
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A PV counselor\'s description of his job:

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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2006, 02:15:24 PM »
Speaking of "Success Stories"....Keep in mind, as you read about Andrew Klepper, PV's Exclusionary Criteria.

Peninsula Village is unable to help every adolescent. Some problems that we cannot treat are:
* Intelligence below the average range (Full Scale IQ below 90)
* History of fire setting and pyromania
* Sexual Offenders / Sexual Disorders
* History of chronic/severe physical aggression including use of weapons
* Physical or medical condition that would hinder participation in vigorous, outdoor activities (diabetes, epilepsy)
* Homicidal intent at time of admission
* Psychotic Disorders
* Pregnancy (females)
* Impairment resulting from traumatic brain injury / Neuro-psychiatric issues
* Eating disorders that are not medically stable

A 16-year-old former Walt Whitman High School student yesterday admitted to participating in a brutal sexual assault on an escort as part of a plea bargain that allows him to serve five years' probation.

Andrew G. Klepper pleaded guilty as an adult to charges that he and two fellow students lured the woman to Klepper's home Nov. 8, attacked her with a baseball bat, threatened her with a knife, then sodomized her at knifepoint with the bat handle and a large ink marker. They also stole at least $2,100 from the victim and threatened to harm her if she told anyone, authorities said.

Klepper, who received a suspended 15-year prison sentence, could go to prison if he fails to meet the terms of his five-year probation, the maximum probation period allowed by law. He also agreed to attend an out-of-state residential treatment facility*and a boarding school for troubled youths.

*According to Andrew's MySpace it was CEDU Running Springs, Ca.

Klepper, who was 15 at the time, pleaded guilty as an adult to robbery, which carries a maximum term of 20 years; first-degree assault, which carries a maximum 25-year sentence; and a misdemeanor charge of fourth-degree sexual offense, reduced from first-degree sexual offense.

Charges of first-degree rape, false imprisonment and first- degree sexual offense were dropped. The sexual offense that he pleaded guilty to also does not require him to register as a sexual offender.

Klepper has been undergoing treatment at Peninsula Village, a residential clinic for youths in Tennessee, at his parents' expense since Nov. 14. After another year to 18 months there, he is expected to enroll in a boarding school specializing in treating troubled youths.

Gansler also said the victim agreed with the disposition. "He will be locked up and away from the community for at least two years*," Gansler told reporters. "We think it's a very severe sentence. We would take the position that it's not a 'walk' at all."

*He was out of PV in a few months...

Tennessee has refused to allow a Montgomery County teenager who took part in the sexual assault of a call girl to continue receiving treatment there, and Maryland correctional officials have asked a judge to force his return to Maryland.

Andrew G. Klepper, 16, a former Walt Whitman High School student, began treatment at Peninsula Village in Tennessee soon after he was released on bail following the November assault. He avoided jail in a plea bargain in May that included his pleading guilty and agreeing to continue treatment at the facility.

But Tennessee authorities have refused to assume responsibility for Klepper's supervision, and without that he is not permitted to remain in the state, according to court documents and correctional officials.

As a result, agents in Maryland's Division of Parole and Probation have asked for an arrest warrant to compel his return to Maryland.

"The fact of the matter is, Tennessee did not want this young man under any conditions," said Mark Vernarelli, a division spokesman.

Peninsula Village is a coeducational facility, located near Knoxville in the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains, that treats severely troubled youths with six to eight weeks in a locked admissions unit and then intensive group therapy in an outdoor setting, according to its Web site. The cost of the facility was borne by Klepper's parents -- Martin Klepper, a lawyer, and Abby Jean Golden, a school guidance counselor.

Under the terms of his plea bargain, the Potomac youth was to continue treatment at Peninsula Village for another year to 18 months before enrolling in an unspecified boarding school* that specializes in handling troubled youths.

*Why unspecified? CEDU wasn't proud to have him enrolled at their facility?

His five-year term of probation was to be carried out under the guidance of his treating psychiatrist, Lance D. Clawson, in consultation with the office of Montgomery County State's Attorney Douglas F. Gansler.

But the terms of his probation ran afoul of the Interstate Compact for Adult Offender Supervision, which says that a convicted offender cannot leave his home state unless the state to which he is sent agrees to supervise him, according to Maryland parole and probation officials. Tennessee officials pointed out that Klepper had no family ties, no permanent residence and no employment in Tennessee.

On Friday, parole and probation agent John Hafer filed court papers asking Circuit Court Judge John W. Debelius III, who sentenced Klepper, to issue an arrest warrant forcing Klepper's return. As of yesterday, the warrant had not been signed, Vernarelli said.
After Tennessee rejected Klepper, the judge conducted a "hearing" in chambers in an attempt to modify the terms of Klepper's probation to satisfy Tennessee officials. The judge changed Klepper's probation status from "supervised" to "unsupervised," but that modification also ran afoul of Tennessee, parole and probation officials said.

On June 17, a letter was mailed to Klepper, advising him to return to Maryland. That letter was received by officials at Peninsula Village two days later, but on Hafer's instructions, the letter was not given to Klepper, pending the outcome of the June 19 meeting with Debelius.

After Tennessee again rejected Klepper, Maryland probation officials notified Jean Bolding, Klepper's caseworker at Peninsula Village, to give him the letter. But Bolding, on the instructions of Klepper's attorney, Paul F. Kemp, did not release the letter, and parole and probation requested a warrant, the papers say. Bolding also did not return a call seeking comment.

Gansler is vacationing in Maine. Calls to John McLane, Gansler's director of communications, and the two assistant state's attorneys who handled the case were not returned yesterday. Calls to Kemp were not returned. Mitchell S. Ettinger, who also represented Andrew Klepper, was out of the office yesterday.

Under the terms of a plea bargain, Circuit Court Judge John W. Debelius III sentenced Klepper to 15 years in prison, suspended the sentence and ordered Klepper to serve five years' probation. He directed Klepper to continue treatment at Peninsula Village, a residential treatment center in Tennessee and, afterward, to attend a boarding school for troubled youths. He ordered that Klepper's five-year probation be supervised by court-appointed psychiatrist Lance D. Clawson, in consultation with the office of Montgomery County State's Attorney Douglas F. Gansler.

But Tennessee has refused to accept responsibility for Klepper's treatment, and Maryland officials have asked for a bench warrant to compel his return.

Gansler said yesterday that the sentences for the three were tailored to fit their level of involvement in the crime, their criminal histories and their ages.

"Klepper got the most severe sentence because he certainly was the most culpable," Gansler said.

Gansler said Klepper has three adult criminal convictions and substantial jail time hanging over him if he fails to carry out the terms of his probation.

Sex offender ruling: A Montgomery County judge ruled yesterday that a Potomac teenager serving probation for sexually assaulting a female escort can continue treatment at a private, out-of-state facility. The ruling was made after concerns that the youth was violating an interstate compact dealing with the supervision of criminals on probation or parole.

Circuit Court Judge John W. Debelius III said yesterday that Maryland and Tennessee have agreed that Andrew G. Klepper's probationary sentence no longer runs afoul of the interstate compact. The judge issued an interim order July 30 saying that Klepper is "unsupervised" and relieving Maryland corrections officials of the duty of supervising him.

Maryland corrections officials -- mindful of a freed Prince George's County convict who killed a Denver woman in 1999 while receiving drug treatment at a private center in Colorado -- had sought an arrest warrant to bring back Klepper. The judge declined to issue the warrant.

On Nov. 8, Klepper, then 15, and two former Walt Whitman High School students lured the 25-year-old woman to his home to act in a porn movie, then sexually assaulted and robbed her.

The latest on Andy? You won't believe this, plus you get to see what the monster looks like:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... =rss_metro
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2006, 06:47:44 PM »
So here's how they are gonna spin this one:

* Sexual Offenders / Sexual Disorders

"The sexual offense that he pleaded guilty to also does not require him to register as a sexual offender."  so he's not a sex offender and PV is not qualified (i'm guessing) to evaluate whether he has a sexual disorder.  SO it's just ok and fine and dandy.  Zen:  If I were you I would probably be in jail right now.

* History of chronic/severe physical aggression including use of weapons

A baseball bat isn't a weapon.  Nope.  Kids use em all the time.  Knives too.  Just ask the boyscout.  You can't ban knives.

* Homicidal intent at time of admission
Nope.  He didn't try to kill the escort.  He just threatened to.  He didn't really mean it, we promise.

* Psychotic Disorders
Again.  PV is not qualified to make such a judgement.



This is un-fucking-real.  Right here we have a quality example of yet another NATSAP school.
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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2006, 08:53:02 PM »
This is from one of Klepper's former classmates, who posts as "feminism without clothes".  WARNING:  She is a nude blogger.  Be warned.  I'll post her blog entry for those who might be offended by tasteful nudity.  TSW, I know you appreciate nudity, tasteful or not, so here's her link:  http://candyposes.com/2006/04/duke-rape-case.html

The Duke Rape Case.
As this blog grows more and more political, I thought it was about time to bring this up. I've found that this quote from Newsweek sums it up, for those of you who haven't been paying attention to its development.

From the beginning, the case has provided a tawdry real-world blend of true crime, high life and low manners, for the likes of novelists John Grisham and Tom Wolfe. Raunchy rich kids. Town-gown conflict. Raw racial politics. A bedeviling forensic puzzle. But the denouement may be tragic for everyone involved, and the only sure outcome is the iron law of unintended consequences. The story has freakish turns, but it is also the product of a widespread college-age culture that proud parents do not wish to examine too closely: future Masters of the Universe who sometimes behave like thugs.

My thoughts? It doesn't matter what happened. Those boys will never go to jail, regardless of what they did that night.

Why so cynical, you ask? I grew up in the kind of community that produces boys like that. Several of the team members are from my hometown. And, how do I know how those boys get treated when they do bad things?

Because when I was a senior in high school, a boy who I had gone to school with the year before(he transferred the following year to a different school) lured a prostitute to his home and raped her with a baseball bat. You can read a small news article about it here.

Despite having plead guilty, he was sent to reform school. Not jail. Reform school. A couple of years later, one of my friends walked into her class at community college and saw him sitting there. He's not on the sex offender registry- even though he was tried as an adult.

So, why did he get off with barely a slap on the wrist? He was a rich white boy with an expensive lawyer who had raped a prostitute. If a poor black boy raped white Susie Sunshine, the girl next door, in the same manner, he'd be in jail for at least fifteen years.

So, it doesn't matter what these boys did- and I'm inclined to believe that they did do something horrible- justice won't be served. I'm sorry to bring something like this up in a light-hearted, naked pictures blog- but it's the truth.
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2006, 08:59:38 PM »
If you follow the link to Klepper's latest trouble, there's a link to what bloggers are saying about it.  Here's the first one, from a LiveJournal blog:

Baseball bat and an ink marker...
So, yeah. Everyone know's Andy, right? Andrew Klepper, my roomates now ex-boyfriend?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02334.html

Yeeaahhh.... And yes, he DID impersonate an officer of the law. Remember that story about assaulting a woman in a parking lot because she yelled at him for parking in a handicap space? Fucking SICKO.
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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2006, 01:24:58 PM »
What was her blurb at the bottom?  Came for the boobs, stayed for the views, I think.  You have to respect naked, open commentary like that.

I read a lot of her posts and she's very insightful.  If we could get network news to follow her example, we could get a point across to the drooling masses eventually.
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