Be a parent and back the fuck off.

[Anonymous]

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I feel like Fornits somehow is connected through multiple universes. The world in which I live does not correspond to the world in which the trolls live. Whatever abyss they're from, I only hope they go back in, and make sure to firmly seal the door behind them. Either it's a dimensional problem or someone's just not paying attention to the real world, and because I actually take time to look around I don't think it's me.}

No...sorry... after reading your entire response I think we can safely say it IS you..

[Anonymous]

You are forgetting kid C, the one who falls in the middle of your two extreme stereotypes, which includes the large majority of kids. Most parents are protective or their young children, I would expect that. What nine year old wants to go by themselves to the mall and hang out anyways? None that I've seen. Kids don't usually even want independence from their parents until the age of 12, 13. When they are old enough to not be taken advantage of quite so easily, and when parents feel more comfortable allowing their kids to go out with their friends to the mall, etc. The child's sex also plays a large part, I'd say most parents would admit being more protective of their girls.
I do not subscribe to the idea that the opposite of a bad parent is a neglectful parent. They are both two negative extremes of the same spectrum.

 :tup: very well said

[Anonymous]

http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/?p=100

Today?s tip will not only help you save on gas, but will hopefully help your kid(s) get some easy exercise before and after school.

Assuming it?s safe, let your kids walk or ride the bus to school.

Since it?s back to school time, I figured it was finally the appropriate time to post this tip.  Today, it seems that more and more kids are getting dropped off at school by their parents as opposed to walking or riding the bus.

Some of the time, it is convenient for the parent to drop off their kid(s) at school because it?s on their way to work, but it seems a vast majority of the parents who drop their kids are making a ?special trip? to do so.

While it may not seem like a heavy burden your gas to drop your child off at school, it probably wastes more gas than you think.

More than likely, you?re going to drive between 2 and 4 miles (round trip), will sit in idle for a couple of minutes and, when you are moving, it?ll probably be a lot of stop and go driving.  All of these things combined equal terrible gas mileage.

All of these things combined over an entire school year equals a lot of wasted gas and money.

So, if it?s safe enough, let your kid walk to and from school.  It?s a great way for them to get some easy exercise and a simple way for your family to save some money.

If you live too far away from the school to let your child walk, I?m sure most school districts provide reliable bus service to take your child to and from school.  If this is the case, go ahead and let your son or daughter ride the ?cheese wagon? to school, and it?ll help you save on gas.

Your tax dollars are paying for the service, so you may as well take advantage of it.

Either way, but not taking dropping your kids off at school each and every morning, you?ll do yourself a favor by saving a bunch of gas and money and will do your child a favor by either letting them get some easy exercise or by letting them spend some extra time with their friends on the bus.

[Anonymous]

It/they had to make a name called "all of us" to pretend to be in the majority.

That's pathetic. That doesn't even work on Fucked Company.

[Anonymous]

I am laughing my ass off at these responses. I'm the original poster w/ 4 and 6 year old.  My only post--I didn't get into the debate.  MGDP's suggested response to anal library mom had me in stitches. It is tough man, my kids climb trees and other mothers are saying "Are you sure you should let your kid do that?"  It is out of control how anal, overprotective, politically correct, and judgmental we are becoming.  God, we can't even issue a cross word without someone calling 911-SuperFuckingNanny.  

By the way, as far as pervs are concerned (addressing anon poster who believes there are more wack jobs now), I'm not so sure if there are more pervs or media hype.  My Dad is 40 years older and was a reporter who has lived through many moons. He said there were just as many wack jobs then as there are now, its just that we have the 24/7 news and tabloid shows to cover them. This did not exist in the 70s and 80s.  Additionally, we now have the Internet, which provides a totally different forum for predators.  I never had to worry about a 50 year old schmuck-o trying to pick me up in my Romper Room cat forum.

[Anonymous]

Nastiness is usually the only solution. Just say, deadpan: "You're going to scream at me for allowing.. KIDS.. to climb TREES. Don't you have a hole to crawl into?"

Frankly the whole street-kidnapper pedo idea is utterly overblown. It's much, much easier for them to perpetrate their acts from positions of authority. Your average pedo is far more likely to be someone you trust with your children rather than some weird looking guy on the street.

When the time comes, teach your children to LIE on the Internet about who they are. If anyone asks for their address, tell them to give 'em some hardcore perverted-justice.com guy's name and number (be sure to have this set up in advance; lots of PeeJers would be happy to help). Ownaj will follow in short order.

[Anne Bonney]

This is one of the better threads I've read on here in a long time and I think it speaks to the crux of the problem.   Children are not to be covered in bubble wrap to be sent out to play and adolescents aren't to be prevented from making the mistakes in life that will help them learn.  Kids are going to get hurt, physically, emotionally, all the way around.  It's our job to teach them how to deal with those things, not to keep anything harmful ever from happening to them.  Obviously within reason and age appropriate but that's where the debate begins.   Whoever made the point about the media is dead on.  There isn't really any higher of a percentage rate of the pervs out there, you just hear about more of them......over and over and over again.  Same thing with bogus teen drug stats, pregnancy stats, violence stats and gullible or controlling parents all start freaking the fuck out.

I shudder to think about where my kids would be today if I had listened for even a second to their grandparents (my dad and my ex's parents put us both in Straight when we were kids).  My oldest had a run with drugs for a while, scared the shit out of me but I knew better than to panic.  I knew better than to allow the doomsdayers near her.  They were all feeding me the tired old line "deadinsaneorinjail".  Funny, she grew out of it just like most kids eventually do.  There was some damage.  She lost some time with school, lost some friends for a while, lost a shitload of trust from me and that's not easy to do, but she pulled herself out of it when she realize HERSELF for her OWN REASONS to reign herself in a bit.  Now she's starting her LPN course, mended fences with friends or family that she hurt and she's looking forward to the rest of her life.  It took her about 6 years to get through all of it, but she made it.

I really didn't mean to ramble on about my kid but I think this is getting down to the bottom of why these places are still around after all these years.  It's getting more difficult for them now that there are more of us to speak out and with more ways to connect with each other but that mentality has got to change before anything meaningful happens.

[Froderik]

Nastiness is usually the only solution. Just say, deadpan: "You're going to scream at me for allowing.. KIDS.. to climb TREES. Don't you have a hole to crawl into?"

Frankly the whole street-kidnapper pedo idea is utterly overblown. It's much, much easier for them to perpetrate their acts from positions of authority. Your average pedo is far more likely to be someone you trust with your children rather than some weird looking guy on the street.

When the time comes, teach your children to LIE on the Internet about who they are. If anyone asks for their address, tell them to give 'em some hardcore perverted-justice.com guy's name and number (be sure to have this set up in advance; lots of PeeJers would be happy to help). Ownaj will follow in short order.

This a great thread, I think I'll hang around for a little while. I'll just sit down over here with my dog, if that's alright. No worries, I've got a plastic bag in case he drops anything. Hell, why not extend this conversation a little to include dogs! Some people are hyper-paranoid about ~any dog being off of a leash these days. Sure some of us have had some bad experiences with aggressive canines, but an unleashed dog is certainly not something to have a coronary over in each and every situation....

I used to own a big black flatcoat retriever. Nicest dog you could ever meet, but he'd tend to scare people sometimes just because of his size. I lived in a residential neighborhood that was sequestered in an area where there were a couple blocks that didn't have too much traffic on them... It was a "through street" but rarely used as such due to its narrowness and proximity to more traffic-friendly roads... I'd set out on the walks with leash in hand but would leave the dog off of it. This pooch needed lots of exercise and it was good to just let him get some of that energy out by letting him wander down the sidewalk and run around here and there. He'd usually go to the same old relatively harmless places that he liked to visit on every one of his walks... If and when he made for the street, I'd call him and he'd get out of it. I rarely had any problems with him. Perhaps I was a little too lenient with him considering this was the city, etc. (Liability and all of that- God forbid he knocks over some old lady and breaks her hip or something) But overall, no one seemed to mind! When we would get to the part of the walk where there was a block that had more traffic on it, I'd get the leash on him. At that point, I saw it as a necessity....

It seems that people tend to err on the side of over-caution all too often; in other words they worry too goddam much...

PS- Fuck all of you anally-puckered Guests on this thread. I'd like to sic my dog on you... ::both::

[Anonymous]

I think one of the toughest things I've had to learn as a parent is you can't protect your kid from life, and if you try to, you often deprive them of learning coping skills.

[Anonymous]

'Nuther day, more evidence.. water park was loaded with kids not being supervised. Probably one of the last good days of the year- soon it'll start to get a bit too cold for that. (In Mid-fucking-AUGUST!)

Question for the mom: Where's your husband in all of this?

[Anonymous]

How do you end up spending so much time at the waterpark?  I'm not suggesting anything shady.  I've enjoyed reading your posts and we're on the same page most of the time but I'm just curious.  You talk about being there a lot.  Do you work there?

[Anonymous]

He gargles there.

[Anonymous]

When your job is as boring as mine, you start wanting to do things like that on a regular basis. Turns the zombie mode off.

[Anonymous]

The only time I ever get really pissed off is when some of them start asking me for tobacco and alcohol. Uh, no. Do not fucking ask me for that shit. What the fuck do those guys want to be addicted to nicotine for anyway? I mean if they were asking me for some pot or something I could just laugh it off (no, I don't do weed either), but they seriously think I'm going to go over to the local convenience store and buy them stuff like that. Take two "hell no"s and call me in the morning.

Of course I'd still rather gunlunch than see any of them get sent to some shitpit.

[Anonymous]

The only time I ever get really pissed off is when some of them start asking me for tobacco and alcohol. Uh, no. Do not fucking ask me for that shit. What the fuck do those guys want to be addicted to nicotine for anyway? I mean if they were asking me for some pot or something I could just laugh it off (no, I don't do weed either), but they seriously think I'm going to go over to the local convenience store and buy them stuff like that. Take two "hell no"s and call me in the morning.

Of course I'd still rather gunlunch than see any of them get sent to some shitpit.

Ahh...the awesome, great, well parented unsupervised kids asking a stranger for booze and butts and this is how you think children should be raised??? unsupervised??? You are a fucking moron!

BTW Im dbucfan...too lazy to log in because my parents over-parented me! :rofl: