The Who

[TheWho]

DJ, Wrote:
What you fail to recognize is that my "opinion," as you state, is the prevailing view of professionals around the world, just like evolution and the spherical globe.

You made the statement ,DJ, the burden is on you to back up what you say not the other way around.

Boy this is really getting old and this is going on for a week now.  Thats a big statement, DJ.

Provide the data to back your statement; I am not doing any more work for you.  If you can prove me a liar I will admit it like a gentleman.  Again, Let me know what you find.....

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On 2006-06-26 10:04:00, TheWho wrote:

"

DJ, Wrote:

What you fail to recognize is that my "opinion," as you state, is the prevailing view of professionals around the world, just like evolution and the spherical globe.

You made the statement ,DJ, the burden is on you to back up what you say not the other way around.



Boy this is really getting old and this is going on for a week now.  Thats a big statement, DJ.



Provide the data to back your statement; I am not doing any more work for you.  If you can prove me a liar I will admit it like a gentleman.  Again, Let me know what you find.....

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First, YOU made the statement that 1.5% of professionals agree with me.  You used "10,000" as the number of practicing therapists in the US.  And you fallaciously said that ONLY those who signed the ASTART letter agree with me (That's incredibly fallacious logic, but we can't expect more than that from a complete moron).

Now, would you agree that everyone who signed the ASTART letter DOES in fact agree with me?  That's your statement and you used it to support your position.

Well, the American Psychological Association DID SIGN.  The APA has over 150,000 MEMBERS, Who.  This of course, is only ONE of the signators - there are several other professional associations consisting of thousands of members each.

So, this is where we're at, Who:  AT AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM 150,000 PROFESSIONALS AGREE WITH ME.  And that's a DOCUMENTED FACT.

You're claim of 1.5% is based upon two lies:

Lie #1;  "There are 10,000 mental health professionals in the country."  THIS IS A PROVABLE, MADE UP LIE.  It also goes to show how precious little you know about the "mental health community."

Lie #2: "Only 150 people signed the ASTART letter."  THIS IS A PROVABLE LIE.

WHO, YOU ARE SOOOO FULL OF SHIT THAT YOU'RE EYES ARE BROWN.

YOU ARE A LIAR. AN UNABASHED, UNMITIGATED LIAR.

You took two false premises that you made up in your head and used them to draw an utterly ridiculous and false conclusion.  Not only that, but you've spent hours over many days trying to avoid admitting you lied.  You are a PATHETIC WRETCH, Who and nobody should EVER BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY because this little episode of lying and evading is just the tip of the iceburg with you, Who.  And you talk about dignity?  Truth?  Manners?  HONESTY?  You have no idea what ANY OF THOSE THINGS ARE and you prove it every day.

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On 2006-06-26 10:04:00, TheWho wrote:


"

DJ, Wrote:


What you fail to recognize is that my "opinion," as you state, is the prevailing view of professionals around the world, just like evolution and the spherical globe.

You made the statement ,DJ, the burden is on you to back up what you say not the other way around.





Boy this is really getting old and this is going on for a week now.  Thats a big statement, DJ.





Provide the data to back your statement; I am not doing any more work for you.  If you can prove me a liar I will admit it like a gentleman.  Again, Let me know what you find....."

First, YOU made the statement that 1.5% of professionals agree with me.  You used "10,000" as the number of practicing therapists in the US.  And you fallaciously said that ONLY those who signed the ASTART letter agree with me (That's incredibly fallacious logic, but we can't expect more than that from a complete moron).



Now, would you agree that everyone who signed the ASTART letter DOES in fact agree with me?  That's your statement and you used it to support your position.



Well, the American Psychological Association DID SIGN.  The APA has over 150,000 MEMBERS, Who.  This of course, is only ONE of the signators - there are several other professional associations consisting of thousands of members each.



So, this is where we're at, Who:  AT AN ABSOLUTE MINIMUM 150,000 PROFESSIONALS AGREE WITH ME.  And that's a DOCUMENTED FACT.



You're claim of 1.5% is based upon two lies:



Lie #1:  "There are 10,000 mental health professionals in the country."  THIS IS A PROVABLE, MADE UP LIE.  It also goes to show how precious little you know about the "mental health community."



Lie #2: "Only 150 people signed the ASTART letter."  THIS IS A PROVABLE LIE.



WHO, YOU ARE SOOOO FULL OF SHIT THAT YOU'RE EYES ARE BROWN.



YOU ARE A LIAR. AN UNABASHED, UNMITIGATED LIAR.



You took two false premises that you made up in your head and used them to draw an utterly ridiculous and false conclusion.  Not only that, but you've spent hours over many days trying to avoid admitting you lied.  You are a PATHETIC WRETCH, Who and nobody should EVER BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY because this little episode of lying and evading is just the tip of the iceburg with you, Who.  And you talk about dignity?  Truth?  Manners?  HONESTY?  You have no idea what ANY OF THOSE THINGS ARE and you prove it every day.


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"Compassion is the basis of morality."

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-06-26 10:22 ]

[TheWho]

Sorry DJ, your trying to put it on me !!  I didnt make the statement !!!

Your attempts fail, no matter how many times you yell "Liar, Liar"  You really need to come to the table with the data to support your claim and back up your statements.

Your claim that professionals over seas dont refer is also false.  Give it up.

I am not going to provide you with anything.

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On 2006-06-26 10:24:00, TheWho wrote:

"Sorry DJ, your trying to put it on me !!  I didnt make the statement !!!



Your attempts fail, no matter how many times you yell "Liar, Liar"  You really need to come to the table with the data to support your claim and back up your statements.



Your claim that professionals over seas dont refer is also false.  Give it up.



I am not going to provide you with anything."

I guess you didn't read the previous post.  I have PROVEN WITHOUT DOUBT that YOU ARE A HUGE LIAR.  Reed it and weep, dingbat.

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I am not going to provide you with anything.

Except more lies and evasion of responsibility for items that I QUOTED from your posts.

You are a liar.  I've proven it beyond any doubt using your words.

Deal with it.  You have no credibility on any issue because you don't tell the truth, Who,  You can't blame me for your lies.

[TheWho]

DJ Wrote:
As for my assertion, since there ARE NO PROGRAMS in the rest of the world , (save for a few American ones in foreign lands),

How do you know this?  You don?t, cite your source.

In the US, there are only a few that refer to programs - a handful

How do you substantiate this?  Only 5 professionals in the U.S. refer to RTCs and TBS?s ?

In any case, obviously THE VAST MAJORITY of professionals worldwide don't support or refer to programs BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEED TO CREATE THEM - therefore they cannot send kids to them.

In my daughters peer group and the one in back of hers there was a child from England and one from another European country.  They were referred by professionals from their own respective countries.

 I guess we can stop this now, you are embarrassing yourself, grasping at straws.  You don?t know what you are talking about, you make it up as you go along.  

Go harass someone else, I am not going to feed your ego.

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What happened to "admitting" it and "acting like a "gentleman"?

Are there 10,000 professional therapists in the US?  NO.  There are hundreds of thousands.  Where did you get 10,000?

Who, you can squirm all you want, but I quoted you and showed you you were wrong and proved the only source you had was your own made up "opinion."

You LIED, you tried to cover it up, you tried to change the subject dozens of times and we're back to your lies again.

ADMIT YOU LIED, Who, LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD, or was that just ANOTHER lie....?

[Anonymous]

Nanny nanny boo boo. DJ- are you THREE?

[TheWho]

Boy , DJ, I have to say you are a persistent and sometimes desperate person when you get caught in a tangle.  You are so desperate on this one that I sort of feel bad, like I should post an obvious lie somewhere so you can call me on it and feel good about yourself again.

I just don?t think anyone can state how many professionals in the world agree with you, DJ.  It is an impossible task, let it go.  There is no way to support it, I don?t believe any one can.  I was a flighty unfortunate comment you made.  I would have never made a big deal out of it if you hadn?t pressed it so hard.

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It takes extrordinary measures to show the extrordinary lengths to which The Who will go to cover up the obvious fact that he's a liar.  I gave him days of ample opportunity to quote a source or admit he had none.  You see the result.

Pure, unadulterated, absolute evidence to show that The Who makes up "data" to appear as if he knows something about the subject matter, which he obviously does not.

BTW, what's wrong with holding The Who accountable?  Why are you mad at me?  he's the one responsible for this event.  He could have been a man about it and just admitted it, but he's a worm, not a man.

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On 2006-06-26 10:47:00, TheWho wrote:

"Boy , DJ, I have to say you are a persistent and sometimes desperate person when you get caught in a tangle.  You are so desperate on this one that I sort of feel bad, like I should post an obvious lie somewhere so you can call me on it and feel good about yourself again.



I just don?t think anyone can state how many professionals in the world agree with you, DJ.  It is an impossible task, let it go.  There is no way to support it, I don?t believe any one can.  I was a flighty unfortunate comment you made.  I would have never made a big deal out of it if you hadn?t pressed it so hard.

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So your source for your numbers is...?

I thought so.  COMPLETE PREVARICATOR.

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The Who today:

"I just don?t think anyone can state how many professionals in the world agree with you, DJ. It is an impossible task, let it go. There is no way to support it, I don?t believe any one can."

The Who at the beginning of his little lying spree:

Posted: 2006-06-22 14:54:00  

"You had approx 130 people sign the petition well lets say 150 to give you the best edge. There are probably 10,000 professionals in the U.S. (I know you compared your position to the whole world, but I dont have time nor the inclination to humor you). So you have 1.5 % of the professionals sign the paper. So if you had 1.5 % ( that agree with you) that leaves 98.5% that don?t. I would call that an over whelming majority."

Ooops!  Just a little more lying in response to your other lies :lol:

YOU ARE PATHETIC.


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"Compassion is the basis of morality."

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2006-06-26 11:00 ]

[TheWho]

DJ Wrote:
As for my assertion, since there ARE NO PROGRAMS in the rest of the world , (save for a few American ones in foreign lands),

How do you know this?  You don?t, cite your source.

In the US, there are only a few that refer to programs - a handful

How do you substantiate this?  Only 5 professionals in the U.S. refer to RTCs and TBS?s ?

In any case, obviously THE VAST MAJORITY of professionals worldwide don't support or refer to programs BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEED TO CREATE THEM - therefore they cannot send kids to them.

In my daughters peer group and the one in back of hers there was a child from England and one from another European country.  They were referred by professionals from their own respective countries.

 I guess we can stop this now, you are embarrassing yourself, grasping at straws.  You don?t know what you are talking about, you make it up as you go along.  

Go harass someone else, I am not going to feed your ego.  You havent proved the majority of the professional agree with you, DJ.  Sorry, you can name call all you want

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On 2006-06-26 11:04:00, TheWho wrote:

"

DJ Wrote:

As for my assertion, since there ARE NO PROGRAMS in the rest of the world , (save for a few American ones in foreign lands),

How do you know this?  You don?t, cite your source.

In the US, there are only a few that refer to programs - a handful

How do you substantiate this?  Only 5 professionals in the U.S. refer to RTCs and TBS?s ?

In any case, obviously THE VAST MAJORITY of professionals worldwide don't support or refer to programs BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEED TO CREATE THEM - therefore they cannot send kids to them.

In my daughters peer group and the one in back of hers there was a child from England and one from another European country.  They were referred by professionals from their own respective countries.



 I guess we can stop this now, you are embarrassing yourself, grasping at straws.  You don?t know what you are talking about, you make it up as you go along.  



Go harass someone else, I am not going to feed your ego.  You havent proved the majority of the professional agree with you, DJ.  Sorry, you can name call all you want

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Let's clear up your mess first, Who.  I can back up what I say and I will.  NOW, WHAT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN AVOIDING ALL THIS TIME?

Is that all you can say for yourself?

You are one serious LAME BRAIN, Who.