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What would you do if you were me? I believe it is my responsibility to do the best I can (albeit sometimes it is inadequate) to help my children become socialized contributors to this thing we call "our society." What should we do with "troubled teens?"
That's just as bad as some who claim the Moral Majority is a dangerous thing!
Wow...that was a pretty weak come-back....Hey...tell you what...I gotta go do some productive work so I can pay the be part of that majority who pays your fucking taxes so you can have roads to drive on, and schools for kids to go to, etc....Geeez... Go flip some more burgers...please. I'll need a quick lunch tomorrow...
funny how all these strugglingparents turn out to be really arrogant and i'm-better-than-you isn't it? funny also how they can never engage in debate about the facts because of a couple of hecklers. it's just an excuse: "he's mean, so i won't discuss the facts!" for chrissake already, lady, tell us the "truths" as you see them and wel'll talk about it. what are you afraid of? nobody's gonna bite you. nobody's gonna edit or ban you. just lay it out there and let's talk it over. and, btw, you are going to get heckled;ignore it and state the facts as you see them.
Quote from: ""esarks""I hesitate to disclose too many personal details. I didn't really ask you for any personal details. Certainly nothing that could identify you or your daughter. I'm mainly asking about the qualifications of the people she's with and how their treatment works. I haven't attacked you in any way. I'm honestly trying to understand the kind of thinking that goes into making a decision like this. I just don't get it. QuoteOur counselors and medical professionals prior to Three Springs was an extensive team involved in treatment. To be sure, they were well qualified and we were highly involved and sought multiple opinions. Likewise we sought their counsel about Three Springs.So then what are the qualifications of the counselors at Three Springs?QuoteHow do I know if she's made progress? Observation. Behavior changes are evident and obvious. How can you observe her? Sure you can go for a scheduled visit but what is that going to tell you? QuoteBy her own testimony, she is thankful to have had this opportunity and considers it to have saved her life. She's not "happy" to be there - she is thankful and believes it was absolutely necessary. No, she is not brainwashed. She has emerged from her cocoon and is alive again. She has spoken at a high school to parents about her journey and what she put her family through. She doesn't want other teens to go through that.Yep, been there done that. Part of her may even believe that, I did after having it drilled and consequenced into my head for a couple of years but once I got back out into civilization I was lost. It wasn't until years after that I realized the extent of the damage and what I had lost.QuoteThis is a residential treatment facility / school. It is not a summer camp. No, we do not call whenever we feel like it. Can you though if you chose to do so? Could you visit unexpectedly and speak with your child privately if you requested?QuoteAlthough, as I said, conferences can be called. Children do make home visits, in later stages every month for 5, 6, 7, or 8 days - as more days are earned. They are able to fly by themselves. Parents visit the facility every month.You're basing your 'observations' on once a month and a few monitored phone calls?? QuoteObviously, there are times when private communication occurs without someone listening in.Really? When would that be? Do you have to sneak to do that?
I hesitate to disclose too many personal details.
Our counselors and medical professionals prior to Three Springs was an extensive team involved in treatment. To be sure, they were well qualified and we were highly involved and sought multiple opinions. Likewise we sought their counsel about Three Springs.
How do I know if she's made progress? Observation. Behavior changes are evident and obvious.
By her own testimony, she is thankful to have had this opportunity and considers it to have saved her life. She's not "happy" to be there - she is thankful and believes it was absolutely necessary. No, she is not brainwashed. She has emerged from her cocoon and is alive again. She has spoken at a high school to parents about her journey and what she put her family through. She doesn't want other teens to go through that.
This is a residential treatment facility / school. It is not a summer camp. No, we do not call whenever we feel like it.
Although, as I said, conferences can be called. Children do make home visits, in later stages every month for 5, 6, 7, or 8 days - as more days are earned. They are able to fly by themselves. Parents visit the facility every month.
Obviously, there are times when private communication occurs without someone listening in.
Geezzz...I've been married longer than you all are old.
Quote from: ""esarks""Geezzz...I've been married longer than you all are old. Congratulations on your 45th anniversary. :roll:
