Need some advice.

[Anonymous]

All I'm saying is to have an open mind and give the good programs that are legitamite a break. I have personally witnessed the positive changes kids have made. We as a program do follow up on our kids for a year after treatment although not all are successful a good percentage are doing much better than pre treatment. As to my parenting quote, all I was implying was that something needs to be done because these kids will be parents one day and unless they are taught healthy behaviors they will fail as a parent.
Damn, these kids are surrounded by bad influences in this world wether it be in their home, friends, tv, parents, Radio, ect. Something needs to be done and if a parent won't do it than who ? Sure we can wait for them to become adults and they become incarcerated bacause we all know that incarceration will help better than an RTC. Wait, it's likely they will become productive members of society and live with their parents until they are 30 and finally figure it out themselves.   SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

[Anne Bonney]

All I'm saying is to have an open mind and give the good programs that are legitamite a break.

I've yet to see one.


 

I have personally witnessed the positive changes kids have made. We as a program do follow up on our kids for a year after treatment although not all are successful a good percentage are doing much better than pre treatment.

Is this The Who?  :lol:  Who's to say it was due to your "treatment"?  So I guess your answer to whether or not you can point to ANY evidence or research that says what you do works is a big fat no, huh?  Hey, you're the one who said it, I just asked that you back it up with something.  If you can't, just say so.

As to my parenting quote, all I was implying was that something needs to be done because these kids will be parents one day and unless they are taught healthy behaviors they will fail as a parent.

There are a lot of shitty parents out there.  Are you suggesting that we remove all their kids and send them off to "camp"?

Damn, these kids are surrounded by bad influences in this world wether it be in their home, friends, tv, parents, Radio, ect.   Something needs to be done and if a parent won't do it than who ?

Again, it appears that you're suggesting that someone forcibly remove these kids (and who would decide which parents are bad enough anyway).

 

Sure we can wait for them to become adults and they become incarcerated bacause we all know that incarceration will help better than an RTC.

While I understand you're being facetious, you have no idea how true that statement is.

Wait, it's likely they will become productive members of society and live with their parents until they are 30 and finally figure it out themselves.  

Actually, most kids grow out of their destructive, impulsive behaviors.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

What?

[Anonymous]

***Hi guys, need some advice, my 12 year old has severe emotional problems. He goes beserk at anything and everything. He recently started a fire on purpose because i told him to stop playing video to eat dinner. We have tried therapy , inpatient , outpatient. My question for you guys is where do we go from here? ***

You might try changing your words and tone. You said you "told him to stop playing video to eat dinner".
Instead, how about announcing that dinner is ready and let him eat when HE's ready? "We're eating dinner, join us when you're ready". "We're done eating, would you like to make a plate before I put it away?"  Kids aren't robots that respond to commands. It has never been realistic to expect that. They have their own needs that will frequently conflict with your wants. Show respect and you might receive respect.
Kids that age can be very emotional and dislike being 'bossed'. And rightfully so. Their whole life is about some adult telling them what to do, and when to do it. Get up on demand, eat on demand, pay attention to boring shit on demand, study boring shit on demand, show respect on demand, got to bed on demand. Get the picture? If you drop the demands, you might find that he's much less reactive (beserk).
Sending him to a program where there will be exponentially more of the same 24/7, where every thought/action is heavily judged and punished, is not a solution. While he may learn to perform, the anger will still be there only to surface later.
One fire does not a pyromanic make. Sounds like a release of emotion/tension, which he obvious has. Either way, set it up so that he has regular opportunities to make safe fires. If you over react to this, chances are good he will continue to do it because it gets a reaction from you. You're disrespect has caused a reaction in him, he's just modeling what you taught him by seeking a reaction from you.
Ultimately, you need to break the cycle of reacting to each other. Demonstrate some respect for him so he has less to react to.  And yes, you can set some boundaries when necessary without all the emotion and disrespect. Lots of information about that. Start reading.

[Anonymous]

***these kids will be parents one day and unless they are taught healthy behaviors they will fail as a parent.

Kids learn how to parent from their parents. No institution is going to teach that. Institutionalization teaches hopelessness. The parent can't/ won't figure out a different way to be with their kid, so the "problem" goes away to be fixed.


***Damn, these kids are surrounded by bad influences in this world wether it be in their home, friends, tv, parents, Radio, ect. Something needs to be done and if a parent won't do it than who ?

Institutions are unnatural. Growing up in an isolated bubble, away from the realities of the real world does not prepare one for dealing with those realities. If you weren't there to rescue parents, they may be forced to focus on their problems and find a humane solution.