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« Reply #120 on: June 11, 2006, 09:11:00 PM »
Further:  You talk about kids that want to go- mine did...summer camp (Outward Bound)...never would do it again.  Wilderness Camp became more to the point.  He liked that too, except the absence of sex and drugs.
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« Reply #121 on: June 11, 2006, 09:15:00 PM »
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Why would you send your kid away if he was "regular"?
Because he asked to go.
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Just make sure he has some toilet paper..
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« Reply #122 on: June 11, 2006, 09:16:00 PM »
The issue in medical and psychological treatment is that the burden of proof falls upon the one trying to establish treatment as effective. It has to be this way to safeguard the public from deleterious medical approaches and fraud. In the  case of TBS's there is an additional handicap in establishing effectiveness because the Surgeon General scrutinized the existing research and concluded that residential treatment is ineffective. The hole is much bigger. Practicioners don't have time to read every relevent unless it is in an area of their expertise,  and they will weigh  consensus from a generally unbiased source far more heavily. Any industry study is properly viewed with great suspicion. Any person conducting a study needs to have their study reviewed with a close eye twords particular affiliations. It doesn't mean that one automatically disreguards the outcome because of the source, but heavy caution and scrutiny needs to be used when you know the conductor of the research stands to gain from the outcome. [ This Message was edited by: Badpuppy on 2006-06-11 18:34 ]
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« Reply #123 on: June 11, 2006, 09:17:00 PM »
Fuck....
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« Reply #124 on: June 11, 2006, 09:19:00 PM »
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Why would you send your kid to the john if he was "regular"?
Because he asked to go...

Better make sure there's some toilet paper..
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« Reply #125 on: June 11, 2006, 09:33:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-11 18:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-06-11 16:40:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-06-11 16:14:00, Anonymous wrote:



"By the way, I sent my kid to an OB program for "regular" kids.  I didn't appreciate that a bunch of hippies with no boundries taught my kid to smoke dope.  Get over your "Karen in Dallas" label."







Why would you send your kid away if he was "regular"?"




Because he asked to go."


That is the funniest shit I've heard all day.
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« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2006, 09:47:00 PM »
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Why would you think that some kids wouldn't want to do this? They volunteer for much more physically demanding endeavors This wouldn't be for me when I was a "youngun", but their are freinds of mine who would have found this cool. Now whether or not it was anything more than a nice camping experience is another question.
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« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2006, 09:48:00 PM »
Your MOTHER would have found it cool......biatch! :wave: :lol:
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« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2006, 10:08:00 PM »
You guys are hysterical!  I'm peeing my pants! No wait, my MOTHER is peeing her pants.  No, my Mother is peeing MY pants ::ftard::
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« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2006, 10:18:00 PM »
:lol: :lol: :lol:  .
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« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2006, 09:20:00 AM »
What is so funny about a kid wanting to go to Outward Bound?  I'm beginning to believe that all of you ex-program/life losers don't want to go anywhere or do anything but pontificate on this forum.  You said yourselves it's like "summer camp."  He chose to go, I paid for it and he learned to smoke dope-  just that simple.
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« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2006, 09:23:00 AM »
There is nothing wrong with outward bound for kids who wanna go there.

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« Reply #132 on: June 12, 2006, 09:55:00 AM »
http://www.passagestorecovery.com/family.htm

JOIN N TELL US !

MAYBE U COULD B ON STAFF THERE ?
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« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2006, 01:51:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-11 18:16:00, Badpuppy wrote:

"The issue in medical and psychological treatment is that the burden of proof falls upon the one trying to establish treatment as effective. It has to be this way to safeguard the public from deleterious medical approaches and fraud. In the  case of TBS's there is an additional handicap in establishing effectiveness because the Surgeon General scrutinized the existing research and concluded that residential treatment is ineffective. The hole is much bigger. Practicioners don't have time to read every relevent unless it is in an area of their expertise,  and they will weigh  consensus from a generally unbiased source far more heavily. Any industry study is properly viewed with great suspicion. Any person conducting a study needs to have their study reviewed with a close eye twords particular affiliations. It doesn't mean that one automatically disreguards the outcome because of the source, but heavy caution and scrutiny needs to be used when you know the conductor of the research stands to gain from the outcome. [ This Message was edited by: Badpuppy on 2006-06-11 18:34 ]"


Please, where may I find a copy of the report stating that "the Surgeon General scrutinized the existing research and concluded that residential treatment is ineffective"?
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