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« Reply #420 on: May 13, 2007, 12:01:18 PM »
Don't think so...  Bigger chin, bigger ears... Of course, those could have changed with age, but not the eyes.  Wrong eyes.  But overall, some similarities...
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« Reply #421 on: May 13, 2007, 01:10:59 PM »
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Don't think so...  Bigger chin, bigger ears, wrong eyes.  But similar...



  I did not think so either.   I don't look like my Hyde student ID anymore  I don't look like my employee badge for that matter. I had the picture taken during hunting season and I had a beard; rural male ritual.
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« Reply #422 on: May 13, 2007, 01:50:42 PM »
...And then there is the issue of the increasing number of hairs that lack their original pigmentation, not to mention the decreasing number thereof...    :-?   Sigh...  Life goes on...
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« Reply #423 on: May 13, 2007, 05:55:27 PM »
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It must be that you need to be very passive to be a hyde parent.

To be sure, some consideration can be lent to this as well.

But let's consider, for a moment, Hyde's position on parental involvement, so finely put into words by Joe (color emphasis added):

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Since kids--and their parents--have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.

So--Yes, we may be wrong, and thus we appreciate all the input we can get. However in the end, we urge parents that until graduation to defer to Hyde's judgment, not their own. To instead accept their own judgment becomes a clear statement to their children that the Hyde experience is simply an add-on to old family dynamics, and not a new beginning for the entire family.


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So... Hyde expects parents to be involved vis a vis the seminar process, but to defer final judgment to Hyde when it comes to interpretation of such, not to mention all else.

We know little of Hyde's response to the parents' certain alarm in this case.  However, given Hyde's response to other legal circumstances they have found themselves in, it would safe to say that they probably acted in Hyde's own self-serving interests, and not in the best interests of the child.  It is likely that their actions may even have been quite proactive, in an attempt to stave off potential need for litigation.

Were thinly veiled threats insinuated?  Were the circumstances significantly downplayed?  Was there an attempt to redistribute responsibility?  What kind of pressure did Hyde put on the parents?

I think one also needs to consider the fact that the parents in this case were of a different generation than most of the current set of parents, and that questioning the "authority" of Hyde would have carried a heavier psychological onus than we would ordinarily consider justified.

In the end, Hyde's "commitment to help each student realize {their} best" was far less of "a sacred trust" than the student or parents were led to believe.  Just about the only thing that appears "sacred" here is preserving the appearance of the old Blue and Gold.


One thing we know about Hyde is that the school's grasp of the concept of character is terribly shallow.  They are skilled at trotting out the nice-sounding terminology and make it sound like they're authorities on character.  But, beneath the thin Hyde rhetoric is a bunch of simple minded thought-control machines.  

I've met very few Hyde staff who are truly independent thinkers.  Most spin out the Hyde jargon like they're rehearsing for a play.  The behavior of lots of Hyde staff belies the school's lofty claims about character education.  When you sign up for Hyde, you're signing up for a very odd collection of staff, some of whom haven't rid themselves of their own personal demons, some of whom can't seem to function outside of Hyde's protective cover, some of whom lack character in any significant depth, some of whom should not be teaching anything in the classroom given their own questionable academic backgrounds and qualifications, some of whom have engaged in scandalous behavior.  

Why would any parent pay close to $40,000 for this kind of environment?
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« Reply #424 on: May 13, 2007, 06:35:44 PM »
The last I heard, it was closer to $45,000, and that was 2006.  About the only thing you are certainly getting for that money, is the certainty that you are spending that amount of money.  Yah, sounds crazy to say it like that, but believe it or not, that is important to some people...
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« Reply #425 on: May 13, 2007, 10:59:08 PM »
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One thing we know about Hyde is that the school's grasp of the concept of character is terribly shallow. They are skilled at trotting out the nice-sounding terminology and make it sound like they're authorities on character. But, beneath the thin Hyde rhetoric is a bunch of simple minded thought-control machines.

I've met very few Hyde staff who are truly independent thinkers. Most spin out the Hyde jargon like they're rehearsing for a play. The behavior of lots of Hyde staff belies the school's lofty claims about character education.


It would seem to me that one of the most important things you can teach your child would be an appreciation of and the capacity for critical thinking.  It is, quite frankly, a most necessary survival skill no matter what you end up doing for a living.

Teenagers are, by definition, going through a stage of development where this skill is naturally exercised by leaps and bounds.  It would behoove a parent to not only encourage this questioning, but also help their kid to hone this skill in a discriminatory fashion.  That is, how to pick apart a scenario and dissect it logically.

There is also the feature of "gut instincts," how to recognize them and that they should be listened to.

Both of these fine modes of common sense survival, generally accepted and respected for thousands of generations of parents and kids, that is, eons of the evolving social networks of society, are summarily tossed out the window at Hyde in favor of a so-called character education.  Which is, by the way, neither "character-oriented" nor "education-adequate" in the final analysis.

What gives... that people still get suckered like this?
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« Reply #426 on: May 14, 2007, 05:20:29 AM »
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One thing we know about Hyde is that the school's grasp of the concept of character is terribly shallow. They are skilled at trotting out the nice-sounding terminology and make it sound like they're authorities on character. But, beneath the thin Hyde rhetoric is a bunch of simple minded thought-control machines.

I've met very few Hyde staff who are truly independent thinkers. Most spin out the Hyde jargon like they're rehearsing for a play. The behavior of lots of Hyde staff belies the school's lofty claims about character education.

It would seem to me that one of the most important things you can teach your child would be an appreciation of and the capacity for critical thinking.  It is, quite frankly, a most necessary survival skill no matter what you end up doing for a living.

Teenagers are, by definition, going through a stage of development where this skill is naturally exercised by leaps and bounds.  It would behoove a parent to not only encourage this questioning, but also help their kid to hone this skill in a discriminatory fashion.  That is, how to pick apart a scenario and dissect it logically.

There is also the feature of "gut instincts," how to recognize them and that they should be listened to.

Both of these fine modes of common sense survival, generally accepted and respected for thousands of generations of parents and kids, that is, eons of the evolving social networks of society, are summarily tossed out the window at Hyde in favor of a so-called character education.  Which is, by the way, neither "character-oriented" nor "education-adequate" in the final analysis.

What gives... that people still get suckered like this?


One of the key reasons parents and kids end up at Hyde is that they feel absolutely desperate, don't know about other schools, are seduced by Hyde's very slick public relations materials, and don't have the time or inclination to look behind the Hyde curtain.  Of course, many people leave Hyde once they figure the place out.  But by then they've already made a drastic mistake.  Sad.
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« Reply #427 on: May 14, 2007, 08:46:21 AM »
"Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best."
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« Reply #428 on: May 14, 2007, 09:08:50 AM »
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"Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a student's true best."


Does this sound familiar to you?

Turn your kids over to me
Turn your money over to me
Go out and solicit others to turn over their kids and money
Immerse yourself in the process and don't question the leader

Geez Louise, does this sound like a Cult?  No by George, this is Hyde School!!
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« Reply #429 on: May 14, 2007, 09:31:46 AM »
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Geez Louise, does this sound like a Cult? No by George, this is Hyde School!!


Hmm.  With all due respect ( :lol: ), I'd be more inclined to say:  "Geez Louise, does this sound like a Cult?  YES, by George, this IS Hyde School!!"
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« Reply #430 on: May 14, 2007, 09:46:23 AM »
If it walks like a duck,
quacks like a duck
swims like a duck
.................................  Might as well call it a duck.
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« Reply #431 on: May 14, 2007, 11:06:29 AM »
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If it walks like a duck,
quacks like a duck
swims like a duck
.................................  Might as well call it a duck.



Looks like a tasty little bugger to me...
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« Reply #432 on: May 14, 2007, 11:15:22 AM »
"Every individual is gifted with a unique potential that defines a destiny"

  Does that mean there is only one place I can end up if I make decisions based on the teaching of Hyde?  What implications does this have for the alternate realities suggested by string theory?
  If I am not in fact the master of my fate and the captain on my soul, does it matter what I do, because it is fate ... destiny.
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« Reply #433 on: May 14, 2007, 11:20:16 AM »
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What implications does this have for the alternate realities suggested by string theory?


Just string up the god damn ducks and let'em have it!   :lol:
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« Reply #434 on: May 14, 2007, 12:21:55 PM »
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