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« on: May 15, 2006, 02:39:00 PM »
I don't know that Paula's feeling about little mz Hawley have been common knowledge - but it is well enough known among the Trekkers.

Also well know in this group, are Paula's feelings about the referral business - and her objections to Susan being in such a business.

Thus the wide spread shock to see her affiliated with PURE so intimately she would have such an email address:

For More Information Contact:
Paula Reeves, Esq.
Paula@helpyourteens.com
954-349-7260

I noticed this has been changed - but it WAS there.

About this Reeves rant on cafty's forum: Re:Paula Reeves :TRANQUILITY BAY STEVEN, LAYNE, DA - 2006/05/15

Quote from Paula:

"No one threatened your friend Karen or anyone else. There were persons who, knowingly or unknowingly, were illegally downloading information and placing victims at risk. I also contacted Isabelle and Kat. Ask them if they were threatened by me. Ridiculous!"

Paula - You have no business bringing me into the frey over on Cafty. I'm not registered over there, I don't post, and I having nothing to do with your problems on that forum. As for the statement you made no threats, You'r a liar Paula. Shall I prove it? I think most anyone would read what you wrote to me as a threat.

And about this, from the same post on Cafty:

"I dont refer children to programs, I do not work for Sue in any capacity, I never have, and I disagree with the unregulated practice of referring children to programs. One of your blogger friends will confirm this. Ask her the one who claims I threatened her. Your blogger friend, however, was 100 percent behind Sue in making referrals until recently. She was at Sues trial in Utah in 2004 to support Sue and watch the trial. I was there too, but it is not I who changed my position on referrals, Dan. Some of your blogger friends, however, changed their positions. Sue and I agree to disagree."

Are you talking about me when you say "Blogger friend"? Do you know what a blog is? I am not a blogger. Posting on forums is Not blogging Paula. Forum posting involves a dialog with others; blogging does not. Furthermore, If your trying to say I was EVER behind Susan making referrals, you are a Damned Liar.

I Never thought what she was doing was ethical; and I Never referred a single family to PURE. I didn't argue with her about it, but I didn't support it - and my lack of support for her constant efforts to meld the interests of the Trekkers & PURE, resulted my leaving the list serve. Do you not recall? Shall I prove That? You might want to confer with Susan before you answer.

I was in Utah for multiple reasons, one of which was to "support my friend Sue". This is not the same as to supporting PURE. This was always a source of friction between she and I. I have not changed my position on the ethics of PURE. I changed my position on Susan's motivation. Being an attorney, I'd think you'd see the difference more clearly.

Susan and I also agreed to disagree - until the Whitmore situation came to light. She would not agree to disagree at that point - and She attacked me. (and ISAC) Up to that point, I had been concerned for her, and hoping she would see reason and act responsibly. Up to then, all my efforts had been out of concern for her integrity and welfare. But after I saw how she was responding, I knew I had been wrong, all along. Her actions proved It was impossible that her motivation was the welfare of the teens. So, I changed my mind about her Motivation, Paula; not PURE's ethics. I always knew PURE was operated in an unethical manner. You and I, and John and Nancy as well as Lee, had all talked about it - privately, off the list - so as not to upset her majesty. Have you forgotten?

That you, and the rest of the Trekkers, still support Sue/PURE (because clearly the two can not be separated) after all that has come to light in that situation, is shocking to me. That Knowing what you know, you would go so far as to associate yourself with PURE, as you have done, is just mind blowing.

And this:

"Your fellow bloggers have late-blooming, sudden insight syndrome (SIS). They have since tried to blog Sue to death. Even though I disagree with the referral business, I do not feel Sue deserves this almost daily ritual of pummeling. It is a fatuous and absurd activity. Frankly, Blogger-Dan, I really dont care if you like the fact that I feel this way, nor do I care what your fellow bloggers feel about how I feel. If I were in a business with Sue, I would ADMIT it. If I agreed with Sue on referrals, I would ADMIT it. I will communicate with whomever I choose and neither you, nor anyone else, will in any manner whatsoever intimidate me from associating with Ms. Scheff, or anyone else, in the manner I so choose."

Yes, it was a sudden insight. At least we didn't then turn blind eyes away. We looked into the glair with open eyes, and with a great sense of sadness and disappointment faced the facts - Susan was not concerned about the welfare of the teens; and would use every tactic learned from Teen Help to discredit her critics and dismiss the very real and legitimate complaints of the families.

Whats absurd about pointing this out? Isn't this what a Child rights & Protection advocate should do?

And if you were not "in business" with PURE, why did you have a help your teen email address? Whats up with that shit Paula?

Of corse you may associate and communicate with anyone you please. No one, that I can tell, would try and suggest otherwise. But its odd, this marriage between a child protection advocate, and a referral agency that has a trac record of callous disregard for the teens it places. People are going to raise eyebrows, and people are going to talk. People are going to wonder why.

CAFTY posters - feel free to copy paste this responce.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 05:13:00 PM »
I'd like to add one question:
Did Ms. Paula ESQ even bother to ask "Dan" that she was posting to if "Dan" even had a friend named KAREN?

And who, especially, someone who can't write her name without adding ESQ after it constantly, would try to deny any business connection to PURE, when her email address connecting her to PURE was public?
It was there.
Deleting it does not matter. People do copy stuff, remember?

And why make the statement, "no one threatened your friend KAREN."  

Sue Scheff / Pure referred children abusive programs.
Anyone who wants to support Sue Scheff /Pure has that freedom; but how does one separate out the two: Sue Scheff  Pure?  Can't be done in my opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 12:13:00 PM »
Paula Reeves wrote :[people] were illegally downloading information and placing victims at risk.

Question: Victims of what? The programs? How were victims placed at risk? At risk of what?
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 01:12:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-16 09:13:00, ConstentGardener wrote:

"Paula Reeves wrote :[people] were illegally downloading information and placing victims at risk.



Question: Victims of what? The programs? How were victims placed at risk? At risk of what?
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Is she talking about that WWASPS video I snagged off bittorrent and put up on Google Video?

How are any victims being put at risk?

Is it because it paints Sue in a positive light and as a 'single mom' and not the greedy whore she really is?

Or maybe that Paula had given an interview but then pulled consent?

Considering it finally gets the word out about these programs, with proof, interviews with some of the actual victims, video of it happening, and the fact that you can watch it on video instead of have to read (which helps a lot of people 'get it', sad to say they cant via text) its acceptable it paints sue out to be better than she really is.

However, anyone who had seen that video would be more likely to dig and research, and see Sue for what she is. Fornits has done a good job of presenting the facts... Im just trying to kickstart people's minds so they can see whats up.

Yanno, if you really want to get in touch with me, just say so in fornits and I'll get to you.

-SonOfLiberty
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2006, 01:11:00 PM »
Would you please send me a PM or Email?
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2006, 01:41:00 AM »
Is there a difference in Paula Reeves working FOR Sue Scheff at Pure and Paula Reeves working WITH Sue Scheff at Pure?  Is this just LAWYER TALK, or what?
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2006, 09:53:00 AM »
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Click here to see the profile of this user    Re:Paula Reeves :TRANQUILITY BAY STEVEN, LAYNE, DA - 2006/05/18 04:34 "What about your own involvement in PURE Ms. Paula Reeves?"

I think this is a fair question, Dan. You are referring to the following incorrect contact information:

For More Information Contact:
Paula Reeves, Esq.
Paula@helpyourteens.com

I wrote the press release in 2004 and significantly contributed to components of the items in the article on Congress. I did not have a web page and did not want to create one. I only wanted to write more articles because the results of the federal appellate case will be published soon and a number of other things have occurred on a Congressional bill. (The articles written are free--not that anyone would pay me anyway for something of this nature.)

In retrospect, mistakenly, I thought it may help to put my name and contact information on the 2 articles I wrote and otherwise contributed to writing. Sue and I did not agree on the manner in which this should be done, so I asked that she either place my real contact information next to my name or remove my name all together. For whatever reason, she did not want my real contact information by my name, so, at my request, she removed my name all together. I will lodge articles elsewhere in due time.

I do understand your above-stated question. What I do not understand is your intense anger and lashing out at me and others who mention the word "Sue." I do not have a business with Sue and, without repeating myself, I do not refer to Sue, or anyone else, etc.

That's all I can tell you on this subject, Dan, which I'm sure is not sufficient for you, but I cannot "prove" a negative. Without participating in blogging persons to psychic death, I can only assure you that I intensely disagree with the child-for-profit referral business. Anyone who knows me to any degree will confirm this. I will do what I can, given my time constraints, to stop the unfettered proliferation of these programs and those who refer.

Paula

Post edited by: Paula Reeves, Esq., at: 2006/05/18 04:45


Why don't you put up a web site Paula Reeves Esq.?
You could focus on legal issues; your efforts in congress, and so on and so fourth. Make it a blog, so you don't have to contend with other persons absurd comments. Its a good idea. You should do it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2006, 10:24:00 AM »
Or she can explain why she is so full of fucking shit.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2006, 12:07:00 PM »
Ms. Reeves,

I asked this question on CAFETY:
What do you plan to do "to stop the unfettered proliferation of these programs and those who refere" to abusive programs?
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2006, 06:34:00 PM »
Wonder why Paula Reeves edited out her posts on CAFETY in which she was discussing Sue Scheff and PURE?
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2006, 12:44:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-25 15:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Wonder why Paula Reeves edited out her posts on CAFETY in which she was discussing Sue Scheff and PURE?"


Not really but why dont you go ahead and tell us.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2006, 03:11:00 PM »
If I KNEW...then I wouldn't be "wondering?"
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2006, 04:07:00 PM »
who f'in cares
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2006, 05:53:00 PM »
Someone cared, they asked, didn't they?
Learn to spell, IDIOT!
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2006, 06:00:00 PM »
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I think this is a fair question, Dan. You are referring to the following incorrect contact information:



For More Information Contact:

Paula Reeves, Esq.

Paula@helpyourteens.com



I wrote the press release in 2004 and significantly contributed to components of the items in the article on Congress. I did not have a web page and did not want to create one. I only wanted to write more articles because the results of the federal appellate case will be published soon and a number of other things have occurred on a Congressional bill. (The articles written are free--not that anyone would pay me anyway for something of this nature.)



In retrospect, mistakenly, I thought it may help to put my name and contact information on the 2 articles I wrote and otherwise contributed to writing. Sue and I did not agree on the manner in which this should be done, so I asked that she either place my real contact information next to my name or remove my name all together. For whatever reason, she did not want my real contact information by my name, so, at my request, she removed my name all together. I will lodge articles elsewhere in due time.



I do understand your above-stated question. What I do not understand is your intense anger and lashing out at me and others who mention the word "Sue." I do not have a business with Sue and, without repeating myself, I do not refer to Sue, or anyone else, etc.



That's all I can tell you on this subject, Dan, which I'm sure is not sufficient for you, but I cannot "prove" a negative. Without participating in blogging persons to psychic death, I can only assure you that I intensely disagree with the child-for-profit referral business. Anyone who knows me to any degree will confirm this. I will do what I can, given my time constraints, to stop the unfettered proliferation of these programs and those who refer.



Paula



Post edited by: Paula Reeves, Esq., at: 2006/05/18 04:45





Why don't you put up a web site Paula Reeves Esq.?

You could focus on legal issues; your efforts in congress, and so on and so fourth. Make it a blog, so you don't have to contend with other persons absurd comments. Its a good idea. You should do it.

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Guess what bozo (or is it bozette)? - she did put up a website.  Not sure why seeing as nobody seems to GAS (Give A SHIT) what P.R. has to say except maybe you.

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