On 2003-09-10 09:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
" John, your ignorant. Your views are liberal and shallow, you have nothing to offer except how NOT to think. Your stint at kids was brief, you have no imperical opinion. You have nothing I want in life.Stop acting like an expert, you and many others are just a flash in the pan. So please keep your fucking mouth shut."
"I forgot to mention in my last post John, I was there before Lulu, cindy and george. And was there long after they left. Funny, I don`t remember seeing you there during the elvolution. Still very bemused and curious as to how you`ve become so confident in your meer conjectures about the kids program. How could you have ascertained all this knowledge without the practical experience I wonder. Hear say maybe.You are inept and inexperienced and must have some really low self esteem to spend so much energy and time trying to look important to your captive audience by asseverating superfluous points. You fool no one. I abhor your expatiating. remember "those who know the least, tend to speak the most.""
Hmmmm. "How not to think." Isn't that what Newton was trying to teach us?
I don't give a rat's fat happy ass if you were intake number one. Frankly, longevity in Kids isn't a 'good point' in my book. I'm glad to be gone and very thankful that I got the opportunity to leave when I did.
It wasn't as if my requests as a legal adult to leave were being honored, at least not in NJ.
And I ascertain my knowledge from observing. It doesn't take a damned drocket scientist to figure out the cult-like programming that was crammed down our throats. Our family's throats. You'd have to be a moron to not see that Newton was trying to rehabilitate people who had no problems.
There was not a day in group, either in El Paso or in River Edge when I heard fellow "patients" (using that term VERY loosely!) try to play the game and try to progress, but they HAD NO PROBLEM.
Kevin, who posts here every so often HAD NO PROBLEM. There was another black kid there, Earl something. HE HAD NO PROBLEM.
Chad in El Paso. HE HAD NO PROBLEM. These were people I shared host homes with.
Now, I can't say that about Rebecca or Lulu, due to the segregation of group. I couldn't actually converse with either of them to get to know them.
These are people I *could* converse with, at least as much as you can on 1st phase. There was no real reason they should have been in Kids. PERIOD.
Now, two juries have agreed that Newton & Co. were trying to treat people who HAD NO PROBLEMS.
So, based on my own observations (concluding in my personal opinions, which I acknowledge as my own), legal precedent, as well as the accounts of others (documented as such, where appropriate), I speak.
No, I never saw an oldcomers rap, a staff meeting or ran home. I wasn't there for the evolution of Kids. Are you going to claim that at one time Kids was BETTER? That it was somehow GOOD and actually had a positive impact on someone's life?
I'm sure there are people who benefitted as a result by getting clean or getting some counselling for other issues plaguing them. Perhaps such help couldn't have been gotten without it. We'll never know, as that's pure speculation. And sure there are 'success stories'. The program took with some people. I'd consider that everyone who's sober today by choice post-Kids is a success. Kudos to y'all, really.
But that's not me. I'm not the addict that I was told I was. I'm not the compulsive overeater I was made to believe I was. I don't feel I need to recover from anything. No substance or activity is making my life unmanageable. I'm not experiencing any powerlessness.
A handful of good deeds doesn't compensate for the incredible pain that Newton and his brainwashing rehab brought to not only the kids on the blue chairs, but the parents & families who went through just as much bullshit, guilt, threats, etc.
So if that makes me liberal & shallow (which I don't believe it does), then I'll accept that label. I won't agree, though and I'll say that.
So no, I won't, as you say "keep my fucking mouth shut".
