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Offline Nihilanthic

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2006, 08:41:00 PM »
I'll pass over pointing out psychological abuse for the nth time (Because most people either dont get it, or think its part of 'treating' a bad kid, or emotional growth) and focus on a more cut-and-dry thing.

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When I fainted from dehydration, I also couldn't hold down any water, I kept vomiting it back up. I read somewhere that that is a sign of severe dehydration, and you should go to a hospital if that should ever occur. I was just put under the shade of a tree and waited out until I could hold down the water.


Is that not criminal negligence and abuse? A very dear friend of mine whose been a medical professional for years said thats a sign of multi-organ failure.

 :roll: Yep. "fixes" your kids by beating them down emotionally and physically until they just give up and do what you want. GREAT therapy.
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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2006, 10:32:00 PM »
You didnt sound nearly stupid enough. You sounded like an intelligent person being condescending and patronizing, not a true truthy idiot!

"A" for effort at least.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2006, 11:06:00 PM »
I know. Its also really hard to get a perfect score in JFK: Reloaded.

I think Oswald was just showing off  :roll:
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2006, 12:05:00 AM »
No, its more like first he missed, then he got Kennedy in the chest, which then hit Connally and ricocheted and hit him in the hand, etc (but he didnt let go of that stetson!), then he got jfk right in the brain.

Part of the point of the simulation's creation was to prove you could do it that way, but if anything you often end up doing it 'better' or accidentally winging someone after the bullet exits the prez.

Im just saying doing it EXACTLY as it happened is possible but rather difficult.

What I end up doing is either capping him in the head the first time, or winging the driver, and the driver tends to crash the car (sometimes spectacularly) or just passing out and stopping the car, which means the getaway is totally botched and you can just pick them off...

Also, its MUCH EASIER to get him on the approach to the book repository than after he makes a sharp left turn and drives away for a lot of reasons.

If anything it brings up a ton of questions, and a lot of lessons.

Not the least of which is videogames can now accurately model historical events. Hell theres a history channel show where they use a strategy game to model some old battles, and in LOTR they used a method very similar to that to do their epic battle scenes.

Also I totally jacked this thread.  :roll:
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2006, 12:33:00 AM »
For God's sake, it's Friday night.  Please go get laid.
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2006, 05:04:00 AM »
What, you want videos or explicit pictures or something?
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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2006, 05:13:00 PM »
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I hated the hiking. I was a little overweight when I started, and I am in no way athletic. I don't think they took into account the different body types that we had. I'm also from Boston, which is sea level, and I had no time to adjust to the elevation of where we were (about 6,000-8,000 feet, depending on the area). I got a pretty bad nosebleed on the first week there. That wasn't that big of a deal, however. We also went out to the desert a couple of weeks, and both times we were in the desert I fainted. One of the times was from dehydration/not eating as much as I was supposed to. The other time was because I (stupidly) didn't eat anything that morning. However, I had an eating problem to begin with, and they did not realize that. It was mostly my fault, but I feel they should be more wary about the whole eating problem. All the people out there (girls especially) have severe self-esteem issues, and are most definetly more prone to eating problems than most.

When I fainted from dehydration, I also couldn't hold down any water, I kept vomiting it back up. I read somewhere that that is a sign of severe dehydration, and you should go to a hospital if that should ever occur. I was just put under the shade of a tree and waited out until I could hold down the water.

I don't know, take of it what you will...

This is easy:

  1. The program was 'one size fits all' and did not take individual needs, either physical or emotional, into account.
  2. The program was not aware of and did not diagnosis your problems.
  3. The program failed to provide you with needed medical care. They are guilty of neglect.

A no brainer. Don't send any kids to this program.
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2006, 07:24:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-11 20:13:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

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On 2006-05-11 14:20:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Niles- you wonder why you got kicked off ST. You come across as hostile and aggressive. Parents don't have to subject themselves to an inquisition by you. If you want to ask questions which might be answered, you better work on your bedside manner a little."




 :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:



As Ive said before, Im not one to sugarcoat or whitewash.



Furthermore, hostile and aggressive questioning is part of these programs that these parents are so gung ho about subjecting thier children to.



Why oh why cant these grown ADULTS handle it? HMM?



Fuck off.  :tup: "

None of us are sugar coating !

I have seen this said by you, Niles, many,many times here and have thought it myself from time to time.  Niles, I think the message that everyone is trying to tell you is that it is fine that you don?t sugarcoat things or whitewash.  The problem is with the way you try to communicate your position.  Just to simplify:  When we were all young and wanted to communicate to someone how something hurt we may pull their hair or kick them and say this is how it felt, which is heavily demonstrated with very little articulation because they lack the vocabulary and are immature.  As a person matures and grows thru social life experiences and education their communication skills move from demonstrating to more articulating.  Many kids strengthen their skills further thru joining the debate club at school, and most mature naturally by early adulthood

We are not saying the way you communicate is wrong , we are just hoping that a more mature response will emerge soon where you can defend your position more thru articulation than demonstration.  After you get thru this phase you will look back on your posts and say Argh, did I say that!!!  In the mean time most of us don?t mind, Niles,  (although it can be irritating at times)its a reminder of our own teen and preteen years



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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2006, 09:01:00 PM »
The hell are you talking about maturity for, Cap'n Sockpuppet?
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« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2006, 09:10:00 PM »
I think hes trying to patronize me.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2006, 12:43:00 PM »
ASSHOLE EXPLAINS IT ALL!

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2006, 04:04:00 PM »
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In the mean time most of us don?t mind, Niles, (although it can be irritating at times)its a reminder of our own teen and preteen years


You are irritating all the time and remind a lot of us of our teenage yeras too with crazy parents who decided to ship us off for no reason. I bet you spend more time on this forum defending your decision than you ever did with yoru daughter.
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2006, 09:08:00 PM »
Back. On. Top.
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« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2006, 01:46:00 AM »
To the aging hippie:  who are you talking about when you say "we"?  Have a mouse in your pocket or is this just a technique to make people think "we", i.e., an ocean of people, have a problem?
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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2006, 02:07:00 PM »
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 Just to simplify:  When we were all young and wanted to communicate to someone how something hurt we may pull their hair or kick them and say this is how it felt, which is heavily demonstrated with very little articulation because they lack the vocabulary and are immature.  


I understand the point you're making but it still fails to address the fact that kids are[/b] treated like that in those places.  I don't think Niles is trying to demonstrate anything, I think he speaks what and how he feels.  You don't find that appropriate, OK.  My question to you is why would that type of behavior be appropriate for kids?  This is precisely the sort of interaction that takes place in the seminars.  It's an integral and mandatory part of bringing about this miraculous change (read brainwash).
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