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« on: May 10, 2006, 03:47:00 AM »
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My daughter went to wilderness and now is at an RTC (island view). We are starting to think about the next step. I'm still scared to have her come home. Any suggestions/feedback about step down schools such as Oakley, King George or others? I had originally wanted her to go to Monarch or Montana Academy, but her drug use/problems resulted in the recommendation of an RTC. Now I think she needs something less intense/restrictive as some of the TBS. Thank you!

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 07:38:00 AM »
I want to believe these slackjaws aren't real, that the entire site is set up either by some very fucking sick programmie troll or by some round-the-bend lunatic who gets a kick out of playing around with this shit.

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Wrong.

You're scared of her? That's a good place to start, but there are a lot more things to be afraid of.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 08:57:00 AM »
What they are scared of is parenting.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 09:02:00 AM »
No-what they are scared of is the girl relapsing into serious drug use if she returns home before she is ready and has had enough treatment.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2006, 09:04:00 AM »
Wow, that's stupid. Every kid I've talked to coming out of a long term TBS environment tells me they are MORE likely to do drugs when they get out. To make up for time missed, to try all the things they heard about, and to deal with the pain of having everyone in your life two years ahead of where you are at.
I've talked to several dozen kids now in my research, and one thing is clear, these programs increase drug use when they teen eventually gets out.
Parents are just trying to delay the inevitable. They are just making it worse. Ironic, and sad.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2006, 09:14:00 AM »
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On 2006-05-10 06:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Wow, that's stupid. Every kid I've talked to coming out of a long term TBS environment tells me they are MORE likely to do drugs when they get out. To make up for time missed, to try all the things they heard about, and to deal with the pain of having everyone in your life two years ahead of where you are at.

I've talked to several dozen kids now in my research, and one thing is clear, these programs increase drug use when they teen eventually gets out.

Parents are just trying to delay the inevitable. They are just making it worse. Ironic, and sad."


You're exactly right.  75% of all kids that "graduate" TBS's recidivate.  The ones that graduate typically represent only 40-50% of the total population.

They are warehoused with some severely disturbed kids who become their role models, contacts and connections.  They learn to "cheek" their meds and trade for other kids' meds or drugs from residents and staff alike.  They carry these habits of lying, cheating, stealing, etc. that they honed at the TBS into practice when they get home.  The kids that only drank or smoked pot try acid, meth, cocaine and ecstacy.  These are the problems associated with aggregating distressed teens and has been well-documented since the mid-fifties by several research studies.

It is also well known that any "positive" behaviors learned in the TC environment don't generalize to other environments - they're "environment-specific" behaviors.

TBS's that use isolation, BM, LGAT and coersion simply don't work.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 09:21:00 AM »
This parent is talking about Oakley.  It isn't exactly a warehouse.

More mis-information from DJ.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2006, 09:23:00 AM »
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"This parent is talking about Oakley.  It isn't exactly a warehouse.



More mis-information from DJ."

You're an idiot who can't read.


The parent said this:
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My daughter went to wilderness and now is at an RTC (island view).
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2006, 10:07:00 AM »
"You're an idiot who can't read"

Oh My God!  Would that be an Ad Hominam attack? By DJ? The one who accuses everyone else of doing such a shameful thing?
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2006, 10:12:00 AM »
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On 2006-05-10 07:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

""You're an idiot who can't read"



Oh My God!  Would that be an Ad Hominam attack? By DJ? The one who accuses everyone else of doing such a shameful thing?"


Yes, it is.  And it's true, too.  Funny how that works.  Your obsession with him is really sick.  Want to address the point posted?  Instead of reading what was written by the parent, you just attcked DJ like you do in every thread, every day while cautiously avoiding the topic of discussion. Is PA that boring?  Isn't there something to do there?  Maybe you can write your kid who you had jailed.  You really do lead a pathetic obsessive existence, don't you?
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2006, 10:15:00 AM »
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On 2006-05-10 06:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-05-10 06:33:00, Anonymous wrote:


""How small your world must be that I am the central focus of your entire life. How sad for you. Without your kid around for you to belittle and humiliate you turn to strangers on the internet to get your rocks off. How very, very sad."








Was DJ talking about some other poster or about his relationship to this forum?


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I guess you won't be pointing out any "lies," huh?  You seem to be fully obsessed with DJ.  You can't say, do or think anything but "DJ" can you?  No.  No, you can't.



You're more likely than not re-reading his posts right now while you rub one out because your husband won't even talk to you anymore since you screamed "Oh! DJ! YES!!" last time he entered you."
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Oh yeah.  This is priceless! :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2006, 11:18:00 AM »
One slice of humble pie, served cold.  This troll is truly a disgusting example of a program parent and reflects poorly on the rest of you.  How strange that none of you repudiate her.  I hope she enjoys the taste of her own medicine.  Maybe she'll get the help that she needs when she realizes that anyone (especially us parents) reading her posts says to themselves "It's no wonder her kid was so screwed up"...
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2006, 03:01:00 PM »
Yeah it did shut that loser right up, too.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2006, 03:29:00 PM »
Isn't this an interesting new tactic- impersonating parents?  Since there are a total of about 5 people who even post of this forum, I wonder which one of you it is that is trying to look so mature and make this alleged Programmie look bad?  We all know how easy it is to multiple personalities on this board.
BUT- you have dug such a deep hole of immaturity and disgust that no adult is going to buy anything you have to say.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2006, 03:31:00 PM »
You are such an idiot. At any given time there are around 40-50 people posting here.

http://fornits.com/wwf/whosonline.php
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