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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2006, 09:44:00 PM »
THE MESSENGER DODGES BULLETS, ASSHOLE.

I'm just wondering if the real people on this board got the message.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2006, 09:47:00 PM »
Dodging what bullets?  What does that mean?
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2006, 12:59:00 AM »
Someone asked a few posts back "why the people responsible for Michelle's death are not in jail?" I believe a better question, is why is the woman who was running the program where Michelle died still in the teen help business?
Last I heard Gayle DeGraff Palmer was working as Admission Director, or some such title, at Top Flight Academy.
It seems it is the same-ole-story: these people just move from one place to another.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2006, 08:59:00 AM »
Just another day in the private teen prison industry. The reason these tragedies continue is because parents continue to send their kids to murderers, child molesters and the unqualified to parent for them. For shame.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2006, 09:04:00 AM »
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On 2006-05-09 17:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke- are you in therapy?  Seriously-you are really screwed up and need some serious help. YOu are going to ruin your life and have no hope for a future unless you get some treatment.  I would suggest hospitalization.  Maybe you are bipolar or have Asberger's or something.  All I know is that you are way beyond the bounds of acceptable for any kind of society- even the outlying one found here on this forum.  Please consider some sort of in-patient mental health facility. I'm serious- not trying to piss you off.  You have Columbine potential and I would like to save you from yourself and save everyone you are in contact with."


Carlbrook troll mom here.  I guess Wilkes-Barre is just that boring so she has to troll, troll, troll.  Sad.
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2006, 09:06:00 AM »
AKA Karen Austin AKA KarenInDallas
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2006, 10:57:00 AM »
Suprise, surprise, no apology. Well, it does take a pretty confident person to admit they had gone a little too far, and that they are sorry. I guess Luke might be lacking that?

Whatever, anyway.....I just don't want to see anybody hurt emotionally, or physically from Luke. Talking about having a closet full of weapons......and blah, blah, blah ain't cool.

We see it time, and time again when there were signs of an individual that expressed thoughts of doing something like this, and nobody did anything about it.....now it's too late.

Luke just needs some time to grow up, and distance himself from his past. I don't know, I don't have all the answers.......but I know that worked for me. I want people to be able to express themselves here......but when it comes to the dead.........be respectful.

I don't want to beat a dead horse........so I will just end it at that.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2006, 11:04:00 AM »
Sometimes people may need a bit of time to think things over. Maybe Luke won't apologize, but he could just delete those posts and let it rest.
Seems like his "beef" is with programs.
I hope so anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2006, 11:08:00 AM »
Luke's "beef" is with himself.  He's a tragic figure.
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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2006, 11:36:00 AM »
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On 2006-05-10 08:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Sometimes people may need a bit of time to think things over. Maybe Luke won't apologize, but he could just delete those posts and let it rest.

Seems like his "beef" is with programs.

I hope so anyway.

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You are a control freak. You do not control this forum, get over it.
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2006, 12:37:00 PM »
Well, aren't we a bit touchy this morning?
Someone take over a bit of YOUR SPACE?
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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2006, 01:19:00 PM »
That was really sweet TSW. I hope Michelle's Mom had a chance to read it. With Mother's Day fast approaching, I am sure it's always hard for her.

I don't think people like Luke have a good understanding of what it's like to have a daughter you love with all your heart, and something tragic happens, and she's gone.

Everyday from there on out, all you have is memories, and hopes that there is life after death, and that you are reunited. I am sure when Sunday morning arrives she'll be thinking of the daughter she lost, and the memories of when she was a little girl. Memories of when she would paint pictures, and make cards for her for Mother's Day, or attempt at making her breakfast.

People like Luke who have very little life experience come on here thinking they know it all. You obviously don't, and the fact you didn't apologize shows that you're weak.
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« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2006, 05:18:00 PM »
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On 2006-05-10 10:19:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"That was really sweet TSW. I hope Michelle's Mom had a chance to read it. With Mother's Day fast approaching, I am sure it's always hard for her.



I don't think people like Luke have a good understanding of what it's like to have a daughter you love with all your heart, and something tragic happens, and she's gone.



Everyday from there on out, all you have is memories, and hopes that there is life after death, and that you are reunited. I am sure when Sunday morning arrives she'll be thinking of the daughter she lost, and the memories of when she was a little girl. Memories of when she would paint pictures, and make cards for her for Mother's Day, or attempt at making her breakfast.



People like Luke who have very little life experience come on here thinking they know it all. You obviously don't, and the fact you didn't apologize shows that you're weak."


I agree - well said TSW and CCM!

Things haven't changed much since 1990 so Michelle's death is certainly not old news.

Ian August died a couple of years ago in a wilderness therapy program in Utah. Same preventable cause. Other teens have been killed as well, all sent by parents who believed the hype that wilderness therapy is safe and effective.  

And really, who can blame them? The sales reps and program referral services (resouces)who market and sell these programs are very persuasive and 100% unregulated by the federal government, just like the industry they refer kids into.

Parents need alternative suggestions and facility watchlists like the one ISAC maintains.

PREVENTION is the best defense as parents are an easy mark.  The programs know it and so do the people who sell for them.

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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2006, 02:33:00 PM »
I wish that eventually someone could post something that is meaningful and not have dullards (like Luke) ruin something that actually has meaning and value to society.

I'm sorry that a 20+ year-old is less mature than the fifteen-year-old that is typing away right now.

I'm slightly disgusted.

Ms. Sutton, you have my condolences and my heart goes out to you in the most sincere of ways. Through tragedy you have found a positive light, and you have shed this light on the corrupt industry that is wilderness therapy.

As a WT survivor, you are a hero in my eyes. I thank you.

LauraLee
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2006, 04:32:00 PM »
Lurk around http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... category=1 , or just go to my "More Struggling Stupidity" Thread.

Theyre extremely immature, but are too busy saying all the teenagers around them are. :roll:

Kind of makes you wonder why theryre so gung ho about confrontational in your face bullshit to a kid, but they themselves arent mature enough to answer anything over the internet without getting emotional, versus some burly asshole screaming in a childs face.

Sadly, you'll have to get used to being the mature one. Im only 21 and Im already sick and disguted with a lot of adults.
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