Update from "former" program mom

[Troll Control]

Unfortunately, my parents found out too late HLA's penalties for pulling a student, and I was forced to serve my whole stay there.

Are you saying that your parents made a value judgement that their money was worth more than your well-being?  Even if you're not saying this, it is exactly why many parents justify their actions.

[Anonymous]

The story does not add up.

[Lacey]

If you know anything about Hidden Lake, I'm sure you've heard about their tactics in forcing students to conceal information concerning the truth about that place. Any time we would try to communicate with our parents about what was going on, we would be severly punished and our parents were assured that we were just "manipulating". So my parents really had no idea the extent that HLA was harmful until after I graduated and I finally had the freedom to express myself. All they thought was that I was unhappy about having to stay in boarding school. And all they saw, was me getting good grades, involved in sports, and getting accepted to colleges. HLA has a very great way of setting up elementary accomplishments that look great on paper, to make students look like we're accomplishing so much. So on paper, hell, it looked like I was the model student from every parents dream. There was no way they could have known.

[Lacey]

On 2006-05-01 08:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Unfortunately, my parents found out too late HLA's penalties for pulling a student, and I was forced to serve my whole stay there.

Are you saying that your parents made a value judgement that their money was worth more than your well-being?  Even if you're not saying this, it is exactly why many parents justify their actions."

Oh I'm sure my father made that chioce, absolutely. The stipulation of the court was that my father (becasue he had the money, and my mother did not) was that my father was to pay all bills surrounding my mental health stuff. So it was his decision to not pay the penalties involved in pulling me. He had already not had the outcome he wanted in court, there was nothing for him to do but cut his losses and go home. I have since not seen my father since i was 15. I'm of no leverage to him anymore in court, so therefore I'm of no use to him. So sure, I'd believe it in a heartbeat that he made the decision that money was more important that me. Sure holds true with his current track record.

[Anonymous]

Yes, there was many ways in which they could have known. Unfortunately, your statmeent about your parents, has been told over and over by program kids who think 'if only my parents really knew'. They chose not to know.

[Lacey]

On 2006-05-01 08:07:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"So are you single or what?

Cops; you wake `em up you gotta dance with `em. They lead.
-- Jack McNulty

"

Did you really go to Three Springs? If you did, I'm sorry. Thats were people were sent too if they effed up at HLA, and I've heard some horror stories. And no, I'm not single. I'm not sure the relavence of the question tho.

[Lacey]

So what was your take on Three Springs, from the position of a staff member? And I don't know. I defended myself and my mother out of habit.

[MightyAardvark]

People get used to defending themselves when they feel attacked and really some of the stuff that has been thrown at Lacey and her mother was just indefensible vitriol. That said I think that your mother could have been clearer about articulating her point (which I still don't fully grasp btw)
Either way Lacey, much of what goes on here is just white noise blown by idiots and malcontents. If you filter the useful bits and the intelligent discussions out from the mass you get a lot more out of it.

[Anonymous]

Amazing the number of posters who don't like it here yet spend day after day posting.  :lol:

[MightyAardvark]

No one said they didn't like it. Just that I want you to work hard to use this place effectively.

[MightyAardvark]

On 2006-05-01 08:52:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"From the staff point of view?



I consider Three Springs to be the Arsehole of the World.

Understand that legal and illegal are political, and often arbitrary,
categorizations; use and abuse are medical, or clinical, distinctions.

--Abbie Hoffman

"

Don't hold it in TSW, say what you really feel.

[Anonymous]

And you could walk out at anytime and got paid, imagine what it's like for the kids.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-01 08:43:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

"People get used to defending themselves when they feel attacked and really some of the stuff that has been thrown at Lacey and her mother was just indefensible vitriol. That said I think that your mother could have been clearer about articulating her point (which I still don't fully grasp btw)

Either way Lacey, much of what goes on here is just white noise blown by idiots and malcontents. If you filter the useful bits and the intelligent discussions out from the mass you get a lot more out of it.

"

White noise blown by idiots and malcontents?  Actually, I think you miss the point MA.  This is what rampant "talking out of group" looks and feels like.  You may not see the value in it, but trust me, it beats rampant "group speak" hands down which, BTW, is nothing but HOT AIR.  

 :roll:

[Anonymous]

hear, hear!

[Anonymous]

MA is just another in a long line of issue seekers who come here to save us all since we are too stupid. Hold up your hands and welcome our new overlord. [pun intended]