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Offline Anonymous

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« on: April 23, 2006, 11:27:00 AM »
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/FrequentQuestions.aspx

What happens if my child is not feeling well?

We have a full-time nurse on staff seven days a week. A pediatrician visits campus at least once a week to see students (twice a week when needed). For routine appointments/check-ups, we ask that parents try to schedule appointments during the student's home visits. If this is not possible, we are able to take students to appointments for an additional fee (if the visit is not local). Parents will need to let the nurse know what appointments are necessary. In most cases, the nurse will schedule the appointment and a staff member will escort the student to their appointment. If a student has a medical emergency, we will take them to Chestatee Medical Center's Emergency Room (Dahlonega), or to Northside Hospital's Emergency Room (Atlanta).




What are the other ways that I am able to communicate with my child?

All of your child's incoming and outgoing mail will be read for appropriateness and content. During the Earth Element, students are allowed to write to their parents, siblings under 12, and grandparents. During the Water Element, students are allowed to write to extended family members approved by their parents. These letters will be sent to parents for their approval. Letters sent to the students from extended family members must be sent to the parents for approval before being mailed to HLA. During the Fire Element, students can write up to five friends approved by the family. These letters, like those sent to extended family members, will go through the parents for the entirety of the program. When sending mail to your child, please put their name on the outside of the envelope, along with the Peer Group Number. This will help facilitate the students getting their mail quickly. Our mailing address is:
830 Hidden Lake Road
Dahlonega, Georgia 30533





Ok, they can claim "appropriateness" when trying to excuse censorship of mail to old friends (although we all know it's just part and parcel of the isolation of the kid) but what the hell kind of a reasonable explanation are they giving these parents as to why their childs letters to them are monitored?  WE all know why but I wonder what crap story they give the parents.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 11:31:00 AM »
Hm...maybe Fornits' should have it's own HLA FAQ. You know, like a bulletin at the top of the page.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2006, 11:32:00 AM »
Hidden Lake Academy has an all-inclusive tuition of $5,950 per month. However, the monthly tuition does not include the following:


Uniforms ($1,400 at enrollment)
Computer Rental (optional $600)
Transportation for Medical/Dental Appointments (if needed)
Psychological Testing (if needed)
Formal Individual Therapy (if needed)
Transportation to the Airport for Seasonal Breaks



What the hell does "all inclusive" mean to them?
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 11:50:00 AM »
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Psychological Testing (if needed)


Goes to show that they don't test every kid.  This can make for an extremely dangerous mixture.

But they don't care about that.  That's why they admit pedophiled and violent felons.  As recently as last Christmas they reportedly allowed a kid who had sexually abused his little sister on break to return to the campus and even helped to get the charges dropped.  

They simply don't care as long as there are asses in chairs.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2006, 12:59:00 PM »
One size fits all.
My son, four years out, is still under the brainwashing influence hoisted on him for two years. It's somewhat sporadic and depends on his mood, of course.

We were talking the other night and he stated that he'd never send his own child, that he wouldn't voluntarily go, but that he wouldn't change the past if he could because every experience he's had made him what he is today. That, if he hadn't gone to HLA he wouldn't have dealth with his 'issue'. (How many times a day does a child hear this?)

Biting my tongue, I asked what 'issue' HLA had helped him with.
His response? A pause, a grin, and a laugh, "I don't know."

Could that be because an 'issue' was never identified? Because he never had an 'issue' that required two years of incarceration?

I told him that it seemed odd to me that if he'd had a legitimate issue that HLA had helped him with that he'd atleast know what it was, and be able to verbalize how they had helped.

Obviously uncomfortable with where the discussion was headed he lamented that HLA is no different than the dog-eat-dog world. That he had learned how to 'survive' in their system, master their program and make it work to his advantage, toward the end.

I didn't have the heart to tell him that he'd been incarcerated for two years for nothing. He's a brilliant person and will come to that conclusion in his own time. When he's ready to accept that reality. All the research I've read indicates that a child must accept their captors- that their 'treatment' has a real and valid purporse and some benefit. Otherwise, they live with constant internal conflict and frustration.

I assured him that there were more desirable means to deal with issues that don't require two years incarceration and isolation from family and the real world. He agreed.

He was accepted based on the unprofessional opinion and inaccurate complaints of his father. There was no evaluation to determine that he had an 'issue' and/or what the best form of treatment (if any) might be. My opinion (based on research and consultations with 3 PhD child psychologists) is that the best form of treatment would have been escape from a neurotic step-mother, hell bent on 'perfecting' a child who was not her own (in order to be valued by hubby), and freeing up dad's time for her own benefit.

Having lived with my son and his father for a number of years, I know his father's complaints.
My son is persistent. He doesn't accept no, until he has been given enough information to understand why he is being denied what he wants. Ironically, just like his father. And this little 'issue' was not corrected at HLA, probably much to his father distress.

His father seemed to think he had an 'issue' with not 'finishing' things, whatever that means to him. A projection of his father's own shortcomings.

And apparently he seemed to perceive 'ODD' as an issue when our son turned 14 and could no longer ignore his step mother's irrational, belittling, abusive behavior. Ironically, defiance is the approriate and common response to being treated with disrespect.

He didn't need a program, his father did. And HLA was most happy to oblige... for a fee.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2006, 03:18:00 PM »
Doesnt sound all that different than my experience.

The staff at HLA couldnt even tell me why I was there, forget telling me I had an "issue".

They also couldnt find away around my argument that the biggest concern I had in my life at the time was my placement in HLA, that it was in fact the very thing that affected me and kept me awake at night. I found it ironic that HLA served as a means to its own end.

Luckily I was able to find a cure by getting the hell out.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2006, 08:04:00 PM »
Are these accurate?  Did they go to a baseball game, art show, have ice cream and play mini golf yesterday?  What, if any, significance is there in the different colors of the activities?

http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/Pdf/Calendar4-06.pdf
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2006, 08:05:00 PM »
How could they? They fired their bus driver remember?
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2006, 08:16:00 PM »
Well I have no idea whether they went anywhere or not yesterday, however, with more than one bus, one would have to assume that there is more than one bus driver too.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2006, 08:28:00 PM »
Very doubtful such expenditures would ever be allowed.

My guess is the only place the kids went yesterday is to do more construction on MBA.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 10:55:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-23 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Are these accurate?  Did they go to a baseball game, art show, have ice cream and play mini golf yesterday?  What, if any, significance is there in the different colors of the activities?



http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/Pdf/Calendar4-06.pdf



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'Water', 'Fire', 'Wind/Galaxy' are 3 of the 5 levels, and color coded on the calendar.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 12:27:00 PM »
Could that be because an 'issue' was never identified? Because he never had an 'issue' that required two years of incarceration?



I guess someone decided that YOU were the issue, Deborah.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 04:04:00 PM »
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I guess someone decided that YOU were the issue, Deborah.


This troll has a serious personality disorder.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 08:34:00 PM »
The parents (I am one) have been informed that
the Doctor will no longer make visits to HLA
as he has done in the past.  Instead, the kids
will visit the infirmary and if the nurse there
determines there is a legitimate complaint -
that is to say, and I paraphrase Charles Cates, if he or she is not malingering.."we have quite a
few malingerers" - the student will be taken to the Doctor.  It seems that it would be more cost
efficient and safer for the Doctor to come to
campus.  Particularly since the parents have also been informed that every off-campus trip will cost parents $25.00.I'm wondering why this change has been made.  Does anyone know?
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 09:03:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-29 17:34:00, hla mom wrote:

"The parents (I am one) have been informed that

the Doctor will no longer make visits to HLA

as he has done in the past.  Instead, the kids

will visit the infirmary and if the nurse there

determines there is a legitimate complaint -

that is to say, and I paraphrase Charles Cates, if he or she is not malingering.."we have quite a

few malingerers" - the student will be taken to the Doctor.  It seems that it would be more cost

efficient and safer for the Doctor to come to

campus.  Particularly since the parents have also been informed that every off-campus trip will cost parents $25.00.I'm wondering why this change has been made.  Does anyone know? "


so you're relying on a nurse's opinion and not a doctor's?  is the nurse trained to tell "malingering" from legitimate ailments?

this is another way of saying "these kids are liars and don't deserve medical attention unless we say so."  this is a dangerous crap shoot with your child's health and is completely negligent.

wtf is wrong with you folks that you would accept this?  how will you feel when your kid dies of a ruptured appendix because some nurse thought he was "malingering"?  this is plain wrong and you're going to get what you deserve if you go along with this bullshit policy.  unfortunately your child might end up dead, but it seems not to bother you enough to go get him and give him LEGITIMATE healthcare.

the bottom line is that they don't want doctors seeing the kids because EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR who saw kids at the facility previously exposed the negligence and maltreatment of the kids and docrors are "credible" and can't be explained away with bs answers.

why in hell are you leaving your kid there after you hear something like this?  are you nuts?
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