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« on: April 06, 2006, 10:09:00 AM »
Does anyone have a problem with Isabelle Zehnder of CAICA obtaining ON-GOING legal complaints--that have not even gone to trial yet--- and posting them on CAICA; without protecting the names of minor children?

She's posting these legal complaints that reveal the full names of minor children, and their allegations (some graphic, some sexual)

This seems highly unfair to children, who had no choice about being in a program to begin with, and probably no choice about be a part of a lawsuit.

When asked to protect the identity of these kids by blacking out the names, or by taking down these complaints: since they have not even gone to trial yet...Isabelle Zehnder said she had talked to her lawyer and he said her practice of doing this is OK.

Whoa...now we have lawyers advising how to "help her help kids."  Give me a break.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 10:11:00 AM »
Who was plastering CAICA's web address all over here about a month or so ago?  It seemed that every thread I read had a post in there telling people if they wanted the "real" info to go to CAICA.  What was all that about?
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2006, 10:17:00 AM »
All I saw on the CAICA site were suits with names that have already been made public.  I could have missed them but I didn't see any names that I hadn't seen before somewhere else.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2006, 10:27:00 AM »
Still haven't found any names that weren't made public before.  Where are they?  Did the parents give permission maybe to publish the names?
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 11:16:00 AM »
Personally, I find it very inappropriate. She should be ashamed of herself.

She should Also be ashamed of herself for working with Susan to smear ISAC's reputation.

And also, for running up one wwasp survivors cell phone bill, to the tune of several hundred dollars - and then refusing to help him cover it.

And Then - for trying to suck up to ISAC,  but refusing to apologize for the before mentioned smear tactics, and insisting she can't afford to help the kid pay his cell phone bill.

And also, for making appointments to met with reporters but not following through.

I personally think the woman has proven herself to be a major flake - absolutly not to be trusted with anything of importance.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 11:29:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-06 08:16:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Personally, I find it very inappropriate. She should be ashamed of herself.



She should Also be ashamed of herself for working with Susan to smear ISAC's reputation.


Huh?  I've been away for a bit.  What's happening?
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 11:41:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-06 08:16:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Personally, I find it very inappropriate. She should be ashamed of herself.



She should Also be ashamed of herself for working with Susan to smear ISAC's reputation.



And also, for running up one wwasp survivors cell phone bill, to the tune of several hundred dollars - and then refusing to help him cover it.



And Then - for trying to suck up to ISAC,  but refusing to apologize for the before mentioned smear tactics, and insisting she can't afford to help the kid pay his cell phone bill.



And also, for making appointments to met with reporters but not following through.



I personally think the woman has proven herself to be a major flake - absolutly not to be trusted with anything of importance.

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Yuck! I agree BK!

I am sorry, though, to see Cathy Sutton go down this road with this lady and her org. She really doesn't need to align herself with someone this controversial, IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 12:07:00 PM »
Well I expect Cathy was simply doing a link share at Izzy's request. Izzy links to sites, and then writes them and suggest they link to caca in return.

At a glance it'd be hard to see reason not to - and unless you've dealt with Izzy, or know others who have,  you wouldn't know about the mess she can make of things, or how self absorbed she is.

If she wants to be taken seriously she needs to do some soul searching. If she is involved for any self serving reason, she needs to find another issue. And, she must do some serious apologizing; as well as take some responsibility for her actions - and work towards being more responsible in future.

Personally, I don't think she is willing or able to do any of this.

Maybe she'll prove me wrong. More power to her.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2006, 12:19:00 PM »
NO PARENTS gave IZZY permission to publish these legal documents revealing kid's names.
And I know ISAC did not give permission for IZZY to publish the Litchfield vs ISCA complaiint.

This woman has no morals and no good-sense working at all.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 12:20:00 PM »
Cathy Sutton needs to figure out the getting-used-by-people-who-have-an-agenda REALLY FAST!
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 12:27:00 PM »
Isabelle Zehnder asked me for a copy of the civil complaint against the Whitmore Academy
I declined her request.
When I voiced my opinion about her posting children's names on her website site, she informed my her lawyer said what she is doing is just fine, and accused me of harrassment.

She's just like Sue Scheff:  if a parent complains she calls out the lawyers!

She also informed me she is taking down our statement about Whitmore Academy.

Now how's that for fairness?

It's her website, she can do whatever she wants.
Who needs her?
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 12:32:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-06 09:07:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"Well I expect Cathy was simply doing a link share at Izzy's request. Izzy links to sites, and then writes them and suggest they link to caca in return.



At a glance it'd be hard to see reason not to - and unless you've dealt with Izzy, or know others who have,  you wouldn't know about the mess she can make of things, or how self absorbed she is.



If she wants to be taken seriously she needs to do some soul searching. If she is involved for any self serving reason, she needs to find another issue. And, she must do some serious apologizing; as well as take some responsibility for her actions - and work towards being more responsible in future.



Personally, I don't think she is willing or able to do any of this.



Maybe she'll prove me wrong. More power to her."


No, Cathy has a webpage on CAICA called Buyer Beware (something about she's not a program referral service and doesn't recommend programs but will provide parents resources.

Cathy Sutton's name is also on the PRESS RELEASE
CAICA has on their website.

I'd say Cathy Sutton is aligned with CAICA based on those 2 factors alone, but don't know for sure, you'd have to ask her.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2006, 12:38:00 PM »
Cathy Sutton has been around this business a long time. You'd think she'd know better.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 02:49:00 PM »
Can you provide links to complaints listing minor?s names at CAICA please. I can?t find them either.
How did she acquire their names? Parents? Public Records?
Has anyone whose request was denied taken legal action? Do you have grounds?
How did she ?barge in and make a mess of things?? With who?  
No one has spelled this out. The issues aren't clear. Don?t expect other readers to understand when all the details aren?t provided. If you want to bitch about it without informing the public, then take it to private discussion.
What is her ?agenda??
Which kids on her list didn?t die at programs? I saw several that stated ?after leaving the program?. But, overall the list looks accurate.
So JH, why didn?t you provide the civil complaint with your child?s name blacked out? Is it a public record? Why did she remove your statement?
Why would she link to ISAC if she is attempting to smear their reputation?
How did she run up a survivor?s phone bill? How did she come to possess that person?s phone?
So, what?s the real beef here? Are you pissed that she made it easier for people to read public documents, by avoiding tedious searchs?
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 03:31:00 PM »
There are 9 families in the civil suit.
I certainly don't speak for them, and I would not provide this complaint to anyone; much less to someone who wants to publish it on a public forum without deleting the names of all minor children.
That was my only request of Isabelle at CAICA, to protect the identity of minor children.
I understand that Isabelle at CAICA obtains these legal documents from PACER. I am not certain if she pays for these documents or not.

Isabelle gave me no reason for removing my statement about our experience at Whitmore Academy from her website. You'd have to ask her why she made this decision.
The statement is posted on ISAC if you want to read it.

http://www.caica.org  The cases that reveal children's names is under the topic "litigation."
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