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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2006, 12:15:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-29 10:41:00, Psycho6 wrote:

Things that bothered me from the Lindy England trail and the pictures of Iraqi's stacked up on eachother brought back memories of being sat on be 10 dude's for my misbehaving.


What do you make of what's going on at Guantanamo? What are they doing to those people and why are they doing it? What about some of the stories coming out about School of the Americas? What's that all about?

Dude, in your military capacity, you play a role in enforcing all of that. Don't you want to know? Don't you have a compelling interest? Or at least a little curiosity? I understand why you can't come right out and say what you may be thinking. I wouldn't expect it, wouldn't even want you to. But I do want you to think, understand how it all ties together and take your own councel.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2006, 02:19:00 PM »
Interesting, if we were able to sit in a coffee house somewhere, I'd be able to tell you a lot more and 'share' some of my experiences. I've been to GTMO and thoroughly understand what is going on down there. Can't talk much about the School of the Americas- only what's come out in the media--- Which brings me to another issue. Most of what we, the GAP (General American Public)see and hear is from the media. They are able to put their spin on the story and it is usually one sided. Too bad, because there is so much more going on in places like GTMO, Kosovo and Iraq, and most of it is good for the population there and helpful for the poeple in their efforts to move to a more free and democratic society. However, much of the media paints a different/horrible picture. Sure, we can argue this all you want, in fact, that ability you have to argue and say what you want on this site and in others is only secured by the men and women of the Armed Forces that defend this, and other, freedoms you have...

 The lady who wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta. She's been in business since 1980 doing interior design and home planning. She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in Iraq....... Read it!
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> WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS?  "Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not  started by Islamic people who brought it to our
shores on September 11, 2001? Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally  murdered that day, in downtown
Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?
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>  Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
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> And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?
Well, I don't.    I don't care at all.
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> I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
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> I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime
in Saudi Arabia.
>
> I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's
head while Berg screamed  through his gurgling
slashed throat.
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> I'll care when the cowardly so-called insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.
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> I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their
suicide bombs.
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> I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law
instead of  the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.
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> In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
>
> When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest
assured that I don't care.
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> When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the
bank that I don't care.
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> When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is
complaining that  his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely
believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.
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> And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and --- you guessed it - - - I don't care ! ! ! ! !
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> If you agree with this view point, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior! If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.
>
> Should you choose the latter, then please don't
complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country.
>
> I am not deleting this, I am sending it on, but only after I add:  ME, TOO!
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2006, 03:39:00 PM »
Psycho6 wrote:
"places like GTMO, Kosovo and Iraq, and most of it is good for the population there and helpful for the poeple in their efforts to move to a more free and democratic society. However, much of the media paints a different/horrible picture."  
   
To Psycho6:
Not long ago I read a thread you started called "been to Bagdad lately"  Your viewpoint of public portrail there seems different/opposite here. Did something happen to change your mind?
 :question:

Personnaly I do not think me or anyone is ONLY protected by our Armed Forces for anything.  There was no military anywhere around to defend or protect anyone or anything on Sept 11, 2001.

What about Pearl Harbor?  Our military seems to have a very poor history of homeland defense.
But our military does have a winning record with attacking foreign countrys.  And again, that's not defense, that's offense.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2006, 03:41:00 PM »
shut up sissy fag :scared:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2006, 03:43:00 PM »
your the one not logged in sissy fag :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2006, 06:31:00 PM »
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Sure, we can argue this all you want, in fact, that ability you have to argue and say what you want on this site and in others is only secured by the men and women of the Armed Forces that defend this, and other, freedoms you have...

Believe it or not, I actually apreciate very much the intent and effort on the part of military people to do just that. Unfortunately, I do not believe for a minute that your commanders in chief (going back for some time now) share your very worthy goals in that regard. It's just useful to them if you do believe it and are hostile toward us civilians who question them.

But don't forget who this president and his daddy hang out with and who they do business with. They're not worthy of your trust or your years of service. As citizens, you and I both hold the highest office in this land and it comes with responsibilities that trump those that come w/ military service. (we all took the same oath, even us lowly once upon a time civil servants)

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 Most of what we, the GAP (General American Public)see and hear is from the media. They are able to put their spin on the story and it is usually one sided. Too bad, because there is so much more going on in places like GTMO, Kosovo and Iraq, and most of it is good for the population there and helpful for the poeple in their efforts to move to a more free and democratic society. However, much of the media paints a different/horrible picture.


Yes, and the media always misses the point. I'm not concerned that Guantanamo is unpleasant or less than comfortable for the inmates while they're there. I'm concerned about a number of other things.

For one, these are not POWs. The shrub kid and his lawyer, Gonzales said so. That's why, they say, the Geneva Conventions don't matter. That was not a lucky coincidence, it was planned for a reason.

For another, the specific kinds of treatment they're getting (what little we know about it). Sleep "management", hooding, stress positions, isolation from the world for an indeterminate period of time, just to name a few. Most Americans have not a fucking clue in the world what this does to a persons mind and spirit. But we sure as hell do. And they're doing it for a reason.

Next there's the minor little detail (according the the Büsh people it's minor) of refusing to charge these people. So there could be US citizens in there. How would we know? There could be people in there who's families have long since assumed they fled or were killed. How would they know? It's been fucking years for some of those people. And they're doing this, too, for a reason.

What is the reason? Come on. Use your imagination and think. Based on all that you know about history, politics, the people in charge and their character and habits and try coming up with a reason that doesn't insult your or my intelligence.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2006, 01:05:00 AM »
:wstupid:  :tup:
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2006, 01:55:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-29 07:19:00, Gah wrote:

"Everyone here knows what you are talking about, at leat I do. They just dont wanna say it cause it sounds too much like group. What can we say? Oh I can relate to you? Sounds like the program huh? Well, My landlord told me when I moved in here that the lady accross the street knows what the whole neighborhood is doing. She calls him and tells him everything. All I do all day is watch her house now. I should prolly go ask her if she has been in Straight inc. too, or what the hell is her excuse? I dont think anyone can really help us. If they can at least at the momment you can afford to get the help. I hate to see you lose everything but I know at the momment that you prolly dont care if you do. I can only think of what the group tought us for the answers. They would all prolly say to get out of yourself. Kinda stupid to get out of yourself when all they teach us is to look at ourself. I hope someday we get some kind of justice."


Gah...you are more right on than you know...keep talkin' sister.
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2006, 01:57:00 AM »
...Or maybe you do... :wink:
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2006, 04:00:00 AM »
...and $tr8 S.vivorVA
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2006, 03:57:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-29 10:41:00, Psycho6 wrote:

"... and folks that just don't give a shit and want someplace to vent..."


Psycho 6 shoots at Iraqis to relieve him of Straight-induced frustration, but he doesn't like anyone using this forum to "vent".
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2006, 04:00:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-09 10:40:00, Psycho6 wrote:

"Anyone out there been to Baghdad or IZ over the past couple of years and take out some STR8 frustration on the terrorists? Was over there in early '04 doin' my part, seeing some shit and releasing that frustration...
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2006, 04:15:00 PM »
Another half-wit in a uniform, that's nothing new.
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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2006, 04:22:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-02 22:01:00, Str8survivorVA wrote: You know Anon I have been nothing but honest on every one of my posts since finding this forum last year.  I have nothing to gain by posting here (and much to lose, apparently, according to some of the responses I have received) - except perhaps the hope that somehow it will help me in some cathartic sort of way, and maybe help someone else that is maybe going thru some of the same mind f*&% kind of stuff as me.

But these responses I get when I post that I should shut up and get over it, or that I am lying and full of shit...Well, regarding the first part I agree, I DO need to get over it, I am TRYING to get over it.  I thought this forum might, in some small way, actually help with that process.  Maybe I was wrong. When I first found this forum I was so, well, RELIEVED.  But now, I think maybe it has done more harm than good.  I am more paranoid now than ever.  So I find myslelf asking myself -What the hell do I hope to achieve by posting on this forum?  I mean, I have no hate message.  which seems a common theme here.  I harbor no anger or animosity towards anyone who, like  me, was imprisoned in Str8 - Staff or otherwise.  We were all children.  We were mostly (except for a select sadistic few) brainwashed.  I suppose, Anon there is some truth to your assertion about the risk associated with posting such personal information on this forum, but you know what, I have nothing to hide about that experience.  And fuck them if they are going to hold that against me.  I was a child for christsake.  

If anything I guess this forum has helped me reallize how naive I am regarding web forums.  This is not, and never was, a "game" to me.  Is that what this forum is?  Have I misunderstood someting here?   Which gives me an idea for a new thread.  I am curious why others post here and what they are getting out of it."


What I am getting out of it is a lot of lies from people like you who have never verified your fucking existence on this planet.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2006, 12:22:00 AM »
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Which gives me an idea for a new thread. I am curious why others post here and what they are getting out of it.


Cool people do come along once in awhile. You just have to ignore the assholes.

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