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« on: March 21, 2006, 07:57:00 PM »
I am listening to talk radio today.

The hot blonde school teacher who
got caught doing it with the 14 year
old boy claims Bipolar affected her
decision making.

Talk show hosts and callers are reaming
her for coming up with such a lame
excuse.

A caller asked the question, would
the host, or callers, hire her if they
knew she was Bipolar.

HELL NO ... was the answer.

Hmm, so a Bipolar cannot be hired because
their illness makes them act a certain
way.

If a Bipolar acts the way the illness
distorts their decision making then
they are responsible.

Can someone explain how the illness is
used for screening, but not for criminal
culpability?
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2006, 08:12:00 PM »
I'm bipolar, and there are certain jobs that I will not argue that I should be screened from. Bipolar has effects on your emotions, and there are a lot of jobs out there where you absolutely have to have your emotions in check at all times.

I would make the argument that being on a talk show would be one of them. You are, in essence, the face of network or broadcast corporation that you represent. If your emotions cannot be trusted 100% of the time, then why would a talk show want you representing them in front of hundreds of thousands of people, including sponsors and critics?

Even more so in dangerous jobs such as law enforcement, military positions, firefighting, etc, etc, etc.

But never once have I walked out the door and had the urge to sleep with a 14 year old. That has absolutely nothing to do with being bipolar. In fact, I would like to slap that woman in the face for even attempting to make that connection, because all she's going to do is make the rest of us look bad if anyone is stupid enough to believe her.

Her excuse is extremely lame, she is a complete moron, and her bipolar had nothing to do with sleeping with a child. The fact that she is just an otherwise sick person who lacks certain morals is why she did what she did.

In other situations, fine, there is a bipolar paradox. But not this one.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2006, 08:24:00 PM »
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"I'm bipolar, and there are certain jobs that I will not argue that I should be screened from. Bipolar has effects on your emotions, and there are a lot of jobs out there where you absolutely have to have your emotions in check at all times.



I would make the argument that being on a talk show would be one of them. You are, in essence, the face of network or broadcast corporation that you represent. If your emotions cannot be trusted 100% of the time, then why would a talk show want you representing them in front of hundreds of thousands of people, including sponsors and critics?


Beats hell out of me. But if they find a cure, spray some of it all over Connie and Maurey, huh?

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2006, 09:36:00 PM »
What does having sex with a 14 year old have to do with bipolar? You get depressed or manic and decide to have sex with a 14 year old? Somehow I think there's other things involved.  :roll:
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2006, 10:00:00 PM »
Is this the new teacher who got caught or Mary Kay Laterneau? Cause Mary Kay claimed bipolar as well.

So this teacher is also saying bipolar?

Well, I know that if you have bipolar 1, you can do some crazy assed shit during mania. Your judgement is severely impaired, and it's common to get in trouble with the law if you are having an extreme manic episode.

Fortunately for me, I have bipolar 2, so I only endure hypomania. But I've still done some really stupid assed shit, back in my 20s when I had mania almost all of the time. And it IS common to be sexually inappropriate. (I've gotten in trouble for groping before.) But I chalk that up to a combination of mania and immaturity, in my case. I know that now, no matter how manic I get, I wouldn't do the kind of shit I did when I was in my 20s. However, that's hypomania, not full-blown mania.

I have no idea whether this chick has bipolar. But a manic person could do something like that, for certain. It's hard to tell when it's a situation like this, and she's being charged with a crime, because there are so many extenuating circumstances why she could have been given this diagnosis that don't necessarily have anything to do with her mental state of being.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 12:12:00 AM »
Well, they put Mary Kay's butt in prison for about 7 years (bi-polar or not) and that's exactly where this other woman belongs. This was a 14 year old kid, and she was a Teacher. She's a rapist.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 02:05:00 AM »
Are you ready for this moron to get a book and movie deal --- just like Mary Kay Leterneau?

Trust me ... this girl is going to be rewarded big time for being a child rapist.

Welcome to America.  Kids have no rights.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2006, 03:19:00 AM »
Hey, man. I never said she shouldn't go to jail. She totally should. Bipolar or not.

That's the thing about being an adult with a substantial enough income or coverage to actually bother getting your ass a shrink. You should. If adults don't bother to seek diagnoses for problems they may be having, that's entirely on them. Chances are, she probably knew something was wrong way before this incident, if she truly is bipolar. If you are an adult and symptomatic you go to a doctor, whether it's a physical or mental. The only people who get a free ride, IMO, are those who are too poor or too crazy to get the help they need.

Besides, the manifestation of her mania is pathological in more ways than what can simply be chalked up to bipolar. She obviously has a thing for kids. Bipolar disorder doesn't make people pedophiles, so that whole argument the defense is concocting regarding this is a red herring as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2006, 06:03:00 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vili_Fualaau

Vili Fualaau and Mary Kay Letourneau were
married on May 20, 2005.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2006, 06:10:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-21 17:24:00, Eudora wrote:

Beats hell out of me. But if they find a cure, spray some of it all over Connie and Maurey, huh?


"


This show:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10695627/
Awful.

But, Connie had a good showing as a guest
on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart Monday
night![ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-03-23 14:19 ]
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2006, 09:12:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-22 03:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vili_Fualaau



Vili Fualaau and Mary Kay Letourneau were

married on May 20, 2005."


I know. Someone I know online actually found the link to their wedding registry! You wouldn't believe how many of the things on there were actually purchased.

One thing you have to say for Mary Kay, that woman is committed. She went to jail twice for this dude, and eventually married him. That's dedication for you. Dysfunctional dedication, but dedication nonetheless.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2006, 09:39:00 AM »
Okay my theory is this. She won't be punished because she is pretty. Leternou was far from pretty. That is my theory and I am sticking to it. Why? Because if I was on the jury or judge every guy is thinking to himself he would have loved to have sex with that lady at 14. Not saying this makes it right or wrong, I just think it's interesting she gets to walk away scot free and men teachers would get a decade in prison. Weird, what does that say about our society in general....?
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2006, 09:40:00 AM »
This is one example where I think that people
ought to back off on judgment.

Public opinion says they met incorrectly,
illegally and immorally.

They are now married, raising their children
and making a life for themselves.

Who are we to criticize others relationships?

They, and their children, can only be hurt
by continued public criticism.

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On the other hand, I sure would like to see
their wedding registry!
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2006, 09:46:00 AM »
I will probbaly get flamed here; there is no question that a teacher having sex with her students is unprofessional and unethical, but it seems that the recent rash of female teachers having sex with MALE students have been entirely consensual. Every guy I spoke with said this would be his wet dream, and the only trauma would be getting caught and bringing the media and law enforcement into the situation.

I believe, of course, she should be fired for violating her professional ethics, and using the poorest of judgment.

I would be FURIOUS if this happened to my sons. But it's strange; I am more upset when female students are violated by male teachers then if boys have sex with female teachers. (Don't confuse this with thinking it's OK.  It is totally wrong. But emotionally, I respond to one situation over the other.)
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2006, 10:50:00 AM »
Well, there are underage girls who will willingly get involved with older men, or view the relationship as consentual. It happens. Women have crushes on hot, older men, too, you know. However, whether it be male or female, I maintain that these encounters are extremely unhealthy and damaging.

The issue is the authority dynamic. It's impossible, in my opinion, for an underage boy or girl to have a relationship (or relations) on equal terms with an adult, even if they go into the encounter willingly. (The "willingly" part is also debatable, since teenagers' brains are physically not able to consider consequences like adults can. [frontal lobe isn't hooked up yet.]) They will almost always be taken advantage of, treated unfairly, and made subservient to wishes of the grown up. If they both are in agreement about something, then it is all hunky dory, but once there is a dispute, the kid's rights all but vanish. In addition, it damages how you relate to your own peers, sexually and otherwise.

I've heard testimony from women who, when they were underage, had sex with an adult male (of a significant age difference. We're not talking 18 and 16) and they swore up and down that the encounter was consentual, and they still said that it was the worst thing they ever could have done. They said they really did feel like a part of their normal development as a teen had been robbed from them.

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