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Offline Deborah

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 03:10:47 PM »
Good for you.
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 03:44:40 PM »
Sorry, but this place looks just like an HLA clone.  How can the place be non-profit when the tuition is $5,550 per month?

http://www.ranchovalmora.com/admissions.htm

Rancho Valmora charges $185 per day, or $5,550 per month based upon a 30-day month for families paying directly for services. (The rate for managed care organizations or other third party entities may be higher due to increased administrative costs.) Our daily rate includes all in-house costs related to treatment, room, board, education and activities. The only additional charges that may be billed are for outside psychological or academic assessment and evaluation (needed in relatively few cases), and for transportation to and from the Albuquerque airport for any trips other than admission and graduation.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2007, 08:33:03 AM »
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We are looking to place my 17 yr old daughter in rancho valmora, and we are not "bad parents"  we have not "given up" on our daughter.  We simply have 10 months left before she is 18 and this is our last chance to get her straightened out before she can decline treatment legally.  She is a cocaine addict who is obsessed with her boyfriend, who supplies cocaine to her.  he is abusive.  She denies his abuse.  The police are helpful when she is missing and help return her, but she immediately runs away.  This all started when the cocaine use started in september-october of last year.  Before that she was a normal teen who had ups and downs, but never disappeared for two days at a time and showed up with bruises and needed to be hospitalized.  We need to place her in a safe, locked facility so she can be treated, because she will leave our home if she does a day program.  Ever try keeping a 17 year old in the house from 3 pm until 7.30 am?  She ran away the last day she was home TWICE in 12 hours while we where home.  We cannot handcuff her to the bed, we cannot lock her in the room (she would jump out the window)  we cannot maintain employment if you have to drop off at a day program in the am (can't get to work before 9.30) and pick up in the pc (must leave work at 2 pm)  Our
hope is to get her therapy and counseling, and she will not remain in our home to do so.  She only runs away to see the loser boyfriend, who is homeless.


Dear Guest,

I know that you're desperate to save your daughter from the life she's chosen, and I believe that you are genuinely trying to help and have her best interests at heart.

My question for you is why a therapeutic boarding school?

If she has a cocaine addiction and a history of defending men who abuse her, then I suggest that you look into a regulated Rehabilitation Center.

There are many such centers around the country. They are equipped with ACTUAL Detox facilities, which I doubt many Therapeutic Boarding Schools are (HLA definitely was not.)

They also are more equipped and experienced with addressing the more "adult" issues that your daughter faces.

A "school" program might seem ideal, but your daughter needs to be learning why she craves the acceptance of abusive people, not Biology.

Additionally, these boarding schools accept kids as young as twelve, and as a result the environment is much less mature.

Your daughter is almost 18, and she will respond SO MUCH BETTER to an environment where she is surrounded by adults (mostly 18-25 year olds on average) instead of little kids joking each other about wetting the bed.

Trust me, being surrounded by pre-teens who are there for curse language and stealing candy only makes a program that much harder to take seriously.

SHE WON'T.

She needs a group of actual PEERS. If she is with more mature people she will handle herself with maturity. If she is surrounded by people who sincerely want to change their lives then she will examine her problems with sincerity.

In contrast, if she's surrounded by children who talk almost non-stop about running away and all the drugs they plan to do after they graduate the program (which is what they do) then she'll focus on glorifying her drug use and how she can make up for "lost time" when she turns 18.

The bottom line is that your daughter needs an intervention, not a forced imprisonment in a therapeutic boarding school. It shouldn't be too difficult to find a Rehab for her (maybe even one she'll concede to), plus state and government sponsored Rehabs are more easily monitored for safety and have less of a conflict of interest.

A friend of mine recently died of a heroin overdose, and another friend came clean with her parents about her drug use and, with her family, decided to enter a Rehab in California. It hasn't been all sunny skies.. she has relapsed a few times. BUT she has been able to go back to her family and friends from rehab and ask for help. It is ALL ABOUT TRUST. My friend can be honest because she isn't afraid of punishment or judgment.

If you enroll her in a "therapeutic boarding school", you will send her a very clear message that you don't have any faith in her, and as a result, she won't have any in you.

You cannot force her to change.
She has to realize for herself that she needs to change.
But, you CAN be the person she comes to when she hits rock bottom and really needs help... if she feels she can trust you.

Please don't alienate her and lose her trust, because she is going to need you. Her problems are coming from a place far deeper and darker than you can imagine.
 
Research rehabilitation, detox, and counseling centers for ADULTS, have her family and friends confront her with their fears about her behavior in a place where she can't run away and is forced to hear them, and then discuss her options with her. Don't leave the room until you've reached a decision TOGETHER. She has to be part of the decision making process if she's to feel responsible for her own recovery.

I'm afraid that sending your daughter to a Therapeutic Boarding School will backfire tremendously. For her sake, please consider a Rehabilitation Clinic instead.

I've seen a lot... The mistakes of myself, my parents, and others...
And I've occasionally seen someone do something that actually helped themselves or their child, and not just for the short-term.

If you,
or anyone,

can learn from the mistakes made by so many parents who sent their children to the WRONG place,

or at least benefit from the knowledge that there are others ways to deal with and help your child,

then my suffering from my experience at HLA  
as well as from helplessly witnessing the death and pain of friends whom I've loved

won't have been without meaning.
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And then along comes Mary
And does she want to set them free, and let them see reality
From where she got her name
And will they struggle much, when told that such a tender touch of hers
Will make them not the same

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2007, 09:22:01 AM »
mary,
that was very well put...it made a lot of sense and was done with maturity as well as experience...
if you don't mind i would just like to add that since the guests child will be 18 in only a short time (shorter time than the program) if you were to put her in a place like, or actually place her in HLA she will walk at 18 and the staff will not be able to do anything to stop her...she will get to the end of the road at the bottom of the driveway and the staff will have no choice but to let her go...and they will not be able to go after her...the school will notify the local police that she is gone but other than that, she will be an adult and it will be totally and completely up to you to look for her....and depending on where you live and how long it would take you to get to georgia...you would lose precious time and during that time (as it has happened in the recent past) she could be picked up by the "wrong" locals and then God have mercy on her...there is a lot of meth up here and if she is looking it isn't hard to find...or she may get to the bus stationand then you may lose her forever...

and during all of that...the school will have most likely made a great deal to you so that you pay the tuition in full and then (the least of your worries) you would be out any and all of that money, too...just adding insult to injury...

please, guest, take heed to what mary has said...she knows from the experience of being a studen and knows what she is talking about with older students...

take care and God bless...i am sorry that you are dealing with this situation...think carefully before you make any decisions...especially ones that could lose you your daughter...
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2007, 01:40:32 PM »
I am one who thinks TBS' can do a lot of good for kids.  I have seen it many times.  Of course, if they are run poorly, then there is a great potential for harm.  My opinion in your situation is that the closer you get to 18, the more difficult it is for a TBS to do any good.  I have seen it be successful, but most of the time a TBS is not the best place for an almost 18 year old.    If she needs something to just get her back on track you might want to try some of the licensed short term wilderness placements.  Good ones will also be able to offer you reccomendations about further treatment options.  Be careful, though, as there are good ones and some very bad ones.  Or, you might want to try a rehab center that has a good reputation in your area.  Don't worry about her missing school right now.  You can take care of that later.  The main thing is getting her help from qualified people.
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