what if it was even worse than we thought

[Anonymous]

Thats what I'm sayin'...I rest my case.

Excellent point!

[Anonymous]

cheers... ::cheers::

[Dr Fucktard]

On 2006-02-24 22:53:00, Str8survivorVA wrote:

"and, oooh Dr. Fucktard.  You know that all you need is a good night with a reeeeealy good woman....and all of your cynicycism would be, well, revealed for what it really is...  BTW we know who you are, Dr. Fucktard... but we will still keep playing your little game since we LOVE YOU DR FUCKTARD!!! MMMMMM.  oooooh.  dont stop DR. Fucktard..More...more..more..oooh yea right there....i know you had a rough day..."

You ok over there? ::blushing:: ::rainbow:: :eek:

[Dr Fucktard]

Scroll back & you'll see that it already has!   ::hehehmm::  :wave:

[Antigen]

On 2006-02-24 22:25:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

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On 2006-02-24 22:02:00, Eudora wrote:

What? No, two entirely different words!



Prole

Thats what I'm sayin'...I rest my case.

Really? Not me. Prole is attached to a nihilist, defeatist, doomsday sort of idea. I don't buy it. I think these things run in cycles. These ruling can only really retain power by our pleasure. By any definition, they're dependent on us for every damned thing. Remember W. on the campaign trail gushing over the nifty bar code scanner at the supermarket? These people couldn't pick their own noses w/o our help.

And there's only so much we'll take. It has always been thus. Power and wealth come w/ helplessness and isolation from reality. The wealthy and powerful sometimes smarten up and encourage education (not schooling) autonomy and distribution of power for the good of their people. http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=7766166

Don't be skeered!  

In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws.  But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws.
--Martin Luther King

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-25 00:20:00, Str8survivorVA wrote:

"yea you just keep telling yourself that.  maybe it will come true...  Love ya!!"

::troll:: ::troll:: ::troll:: ::troll:: ::troll::

[Anonymous]

Remember W. on the campaign trail gushing over the nifty bar code scanner at the supermarket? These people couldn't pick their own noses w/o our help.

[dragonfly]

[teachback]

On 2006-02-24 22:53:00, Str8survivorVA wrote:

BTW we know who you are, Dr. Fucktard... but we will still keep playing your little game since we LOVE YOU DR FUCKTARD!!!

Who is he???

Come on...spill it!!!

[Antigen]

On 2006-02-25 06:25:00, dragonfly wrote:

I still think we were brainwashed for reasons we have yet to discover, by means we have yet to identify, by people we have yet to hear about

Oh, I don't disagree with that at all. Just saying that the most powerful, invisible, seemingly untouchable people at the bottom of all this are 1) probably a whole lot more delusional and haunted than any of us and 2) just flesh and bones, just like us. All it takes, really, is for a whole lot of us docile, easily distracted Americans to join the rest of the world in a habit of healthy skepticism and just quit protecting and supporting the maniacle mindfuckers.


Rampant talking out in group, by whatever means, is (I think) the key to it all.

We did not inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it form our children.


http://www.civilization.ca/aborig/haida/hapindxe.html' target='_new'>Haida

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-23 09:20:00, dragonfly wrote:

"How did Frank Discussion know I was searching for the Monkey House thread that morning a few weeks ago?



Why is it that he was the one to repost it when it disappeared originally, several months ago?



I trust that he understands my questions and won't take offense at them.



"

'cause he works for THEM!!!!!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-23 13:59:00, dragonfly wrote:

 fuckin' A Billy my munchkin's hungry!!    
"

Fuck NA, Billy, fuck NA.........

[teachback]

:nworthy:

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-23 15:02:00, Frank Discussion wrote:

"

On 2006-02-23 13:37:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:


"Eudora,





When I say "the established order of society" I am making a general reference to the people who determine economic policies both domestic and foreign.  I am referring to the people who hold economic, social and political power.  I am referring to people like Mel Sembler who in another age would've owned slaves.  





I think that what the "establishment " learned from the cultural revolution of the 60s was to head the shit off before it can get started, to weed out any potential threats in the form of rising youth before they can get a foothold. $tr8 was a pre-emptive strike against the radical youth.  Drug treatment is/was simply a convenient pretext to serve their agenda.  I realize that not ever'one who was in $tr8 falls into this category, but I believe a significant percentage of the kids I was in there with did.  I notice that the personality and character traits of many of the kids I was in the program with were such that they would be percieved as a threat to the established social order.  These were the kids who could not be made to submit to false authorities.  Kids who innately understood the process of social conditioning.  Kids who refused to surrender their integrity in order to be accepted by the social conventions of the day.  These kids had their own ideas about things and their own original ways to live their lives.  I notice that a lot of kids in $tr8 seemed to have a high intelligence and above average powers of perception.  Again, I realize that this didn't apply to everyone who was in the program.  





I myself was groomed for leadership in the establishment.  I am the first born son of a 2 star admiral(the highest rank in the supply corp) who was once offered a position in the Clinton admin. as Assistant Secretary of Defense under William Perry.  I was expected to follow my fathers lead.  All through my early youth I was on student councils and a natural leader of my peers.  Big things were expected of me but somewhere around the age of 12 I began to act on my instinct and suspicions that I was bein' manipulated and played.  I sensed the injustice and I began to drop out of society, stopped goin' to school, started experimenting with drugs, etc., sought wisdom in my own way.  I became a threat and a potential revolutionary.  A prime candidate for $tr8.





$tr8 was a re-aculturation center designed to make me a submissive slave.  Perhaps $tr8 was different things to different people but this is what is was to me.





Fuck $tr8. Fuck Authority.  ::dove::





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If you would have justice in this world, then begin to see that a human being is not a means to some end.  People are not commodities.  When human beings are just to one another government becomes obsolete and real freedom is born; SPIRITUAL ANARCHY."

Interesting theories you have here; now allow me to get up on my soapbox for a minute. Straight, Inc. was a scam to make $ off of parental fear of their kids being or becoming "addicted" to drugs. It was an attempt at controlling kids perceived as unruly. I pretty much stop there with it. You & WD like to take it a step further and drag the government in, etc... You both say these things as if they were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. "Radical youth"? Come on, man...do you really buy into this supposition? Sure, a lot of us didn't like school (myself included) but what makes you so sure that Straight was setting itself out to do away with "kids who innately understood the process of social conditioning"? I'm not saying that we didn't perceive these things as teens...but at what point do you make the leap from the known to all of this stuff about being a "threat and a potential revolutionary"? I mean, come on....



And yeah, I'm aware of all the "connections" and all of that...but that could be chalked up to politicians just trying to make themselves look "good" for the voters.."

see how he tries to explain it all away?  He's trying to distract us from the truth.  His story, while vaguely plausible, is really meant to mislead us from the psychic experiments that the executives at Straight were performinng on us for the CIA and NSA.

[teachback]

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