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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2006, 11:04:00 AM »
There was certainly nothing like "getting motivated" to stretch out after sleeping on the cold hard floor everyday. :grin:

What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2006, 11:07:00 AM »
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On 2006-02-10 18:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"any homo's still at khk?"
Yes. If anything "gay" happened to you at KHK that is exactly what needs to get reported on the TV news. :wink:

The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2006, 04:16:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-11 08:07:00, KNOTTY wrote:

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On 2006-02-10 18:41:00, Anonymous wrote:


"any homo's still at khk?"

Yes. If anything "gay" happened to you at KHK that is exactly what needs to get reported on the TV news. :wink:

The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.
--William Safire

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First of all if anything "gay" happened to anyone at a place like KHK and it was an unwanted gesture or advance then it would not be considered "GAY" as you are putting it....it would be called "sexual assault"...or possibly "gross imposition of a minor" under Ohio revised code.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2006, 04:23:00 PM »
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-7
C. Sexual Battery
1. ELEMENTS OF SEXUAL BATTERY
ORC 2907.03
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-8
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. Engage in sexual conduct?
b. With another person not the spouse of the
offender when any of the following apply:
1. Offender knowingly coerces the other person
to submit by any means that would prevent
resistance by a person of ordinary resolution
OR
2. Offender knows that the other person?s ability
to appraise the nature of or control his or her
conduct is substantially impaired
OR
3. Offender knows the other person submits
because he or she is unaware the act is being
committed
OR
4. Offender knows the other person submits
because s/he mistakenly identifies the
offender as his or her spouse
OR
5. Offender is other person?s natural or adoptive
parent, step-parent, guardian, custodian or
person in loco parentis
OR
6. Other person is in custody of law or is a
patient in a hospital or other institution AND
offender has supervisory or disciplinary
authority over the person
7. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed by a
school governed by state board of education,
the other person is enrolled/attends that
school and the offender is not enrolled in that
school
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-9
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
8. The other person is a minor enrolled in an
institution of higher education and the offender
is a teacher, administrator, coach or other
person in authority employed by that institution
9. The other person is a minor and the offender
is the other person?s coach, instructor, scout
troop leader or person with temporary or
occasional disciplinary control over the other
person
10. The offender is a mental health professional?
and?
a. The victim is a patient?
and?
b. The offender induces the victim to submit
by falsely representing that sexual conduct
is necessary for mental health treatment
purposes
2. Degree of offense:
a. F-3 in all circumstances;
b. Mandatory sentence of at least 3 years
3. Interpretation of Elements
a. Person ?In Loco Parentis? is a person who has
assumed the dominant parental role and is relied
upon by the child for support
b. A teacher or coach is not considered to be ?in loco
parentis?
c. A POLICE OFFICER WHO ENGAGES IN
SEXUAL CONDUCT WITH A PRISONER IS
GUILTY OF SEXUAL BATTERY, EVEN IF THE
SEXUAL CONDUCT WAS CONSENSUAL
D. Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a minor
1. ELEMENTS OF UNLAWFUL SEXUAL CONDUCT
WITH A MINOR
State v. Moggle (1993) 67
Ohio St. 3d 31
SPO #1
ORC 2907.04
ORC 2907.04
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-10
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. A person, 18 years old or older?
b. Engages in sexual conduct?
c. With another person who is not his or her spouse
when:
1. Offender knows the other person is 13 years
of age or older, but less than 16 years of age
OR
2. Offender is reckless in this regard
2. Degree of Offense
a. F-4
b. Offender is less than 4 years older than other
person, M-1
c. If the offender is 10 or more years older than the
victim; F-3
d. If offender has been previously convicted of Rape,
Sexual Battery, Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a
Minor, or the former crime of Felonious Sexual
Penetration; F-2
3. Interpreting Elements
a. Prohibition of sexual conduct when offenders 18
or over and partner is 13 to 15 years of age:
1. Defendant is 18 and partner is 15 (M-1)
2. Defendant is 25 and partner is 15 (F-4)
3. Defendant is 16 and partner is 15 (No offense)
4. Defendant is 18 and partner is 12 (Rape)
b. Consensual sexual conduct is still a violation
E. Gross Sexual Imposition
1. ELEMENTS OF GROSS SEXUAL IMPOSITION
ORC 2907.05
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-11
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
a. Having sexual contact with another who is not the
spouse of the offender
OR
b. Causing another to have sexual contact with
offender who is not the spouse of the offender
OR
c. Cause 2 or more other persons to have sexual
contact
d. When any of the following applies:
1. Offender purposely compels the other person,
or one of the other persons, to submit by force
or threat of force
OR
2. For purpose of preventing resistance, offender
substantially impairs the other person?s, or one
of the other person?s judgment or control:
a. By administering any drug or intoxicant or
controlled substance
b. Surreptitiously
c. By Force
d. By threat of force
OR
e. By deception
OR
3. Offender knows that the other person?s or one
of the other person?s judgment or control is
substantially impaired by drug or intoxicant or
controlled substance administered with the
person?s consent for purpose of medical or
dental examination, treatment or surgery
OR
Sexual Contact Crime
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-12
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
4. Other person, or one of the other persons, is
less than 13 years old regardless of whether
offender knows the other person?s age
OR
5. Ability of other person or one of the other
person?s resistance or consent is substantially
impaired because of a mental or physical
condition or advanced age AND offender
knows or has reasonable cause to believe
ability to resist or consent of the other person,
or one of the other persons, is substantially
impaired because of mental or physical
condition or advanced age
2. F-4
3. If offender impairs victim?s judgment by administration
of a controlled substance surreptitiously or by force,
threat of force or deception; F-3
4. When victim is under 13 years of age; F-3
5. Interpreting Elements
a. Same elements as rape, except sexual contact as
opposed to sexual conduct
b. A father who touches his minor daughter?s
buttocks with wrongful intent during a back-rub
can be convicted for gross sexual imposition
c. A man who backs a woman co-worker against a
wall and places his arms in such a way that she
cannot move away is exerting sufficient force to
sustain a conviction of gross sexual imposition
d. Victim need not prove physical resistance to
sustain a conviction for Gross Sexual Imposition
F. Sexual Imposition
1. ELEMENTS OF SEXUAL IMPOSITION
a. Have sexual contact with another who is not the
offender?s spouse
OR
State v. Schaim (1992) 65
Ohio St. 3d 51
ORC 2907.06
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-13
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
b. Cause another to have sexual contact with the
offender who is not the spouse of the offender
OR
c. Cause 2 or more others to have sexual contact
WHEN
d. Any of the following applies:
1. Offender knows the sexual contact is offensive
to the other person OR one of the other
persons OR is reckless in that regard
2. Offender knows the other person?s, ability to
appraise the nature of his conduct or to control
his conduct is substantially impaired
OR
3. Offender knows the other person, or one of the
other persons, submits because of being
unaware of the sexual contact
OR
4. The other person, or one of the other persons,
is 13 years of age or older but less than 16
years of age regardless of whether offender
knows such age and offender is at least 18
years old and 4 or more years older than the
other person
5. The offender is a mental health professional?
and?
a. The victim is a patient?
and?
b. The offender induces the victim to submit
by falsely represent that sexual contact is
necessary for mental health treatment
purposes
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2006, 04:25:00 PM »
HERE is the KICKER right HERE PEOPLE:

VOYERISM in this fashion is against OHIO law:

EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-17
H. Voyeurism (?Peeping Tom?)
1. Definitions as used in this section:
a. Institution of Higher Education means:
1. A state institution of higher education as
defined in section 3345.031
2. A private, nonprofit college or university
located in this state that possesses a
certificate of authorization issued by the Ohio
Board of Regents under ORC 1713
ORC 2907.08, SUB. S.B. 82
EFFECTIVE 1/30/98
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
EFFECTIVE 2/1/06 VERSION 1.04
UNIT 2: LEGAL 2-2C-18
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
b. ?Child Day-Care Center?, Type ?A? Family Day
Care Home, Type ?B? Family Day Care Home
have the same meanings as in ORC 5104.01
c. ?Babysitting care? means care provided for a child
while the parents, guardian or legal custodian of
the child is temporarily away
2. ELEMENTS OF VOYEURISM
a. [Section A] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another, to spy or eavesdrop
upon another
b. [Section B] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity
c. [Section C] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor
d. [Section D] No person, for the purpose of sexually
arousing or gratifying the person?s self, shall
commit trespass or otherwise surreptitiously
invade the privacy of another to photograph the
other person in a state of nudity if the other person
is a minor and any of the following applies:
1. The offender is the minor?s natural or adoptive
parent, stepparent, guardian or custodian or
person in loco parentis of the minor
2. The minor is in custody of law or is a patient in
a hospital or other institution and the offender
has supervisory or disciplinary authority over
the minor
SPO #1
TOPIC 2C: OHIO REVISED CODE 2907, SEXUAL ASSAULT
PEACE OFFICER BASIC TRAINING CURRICULUM
OHIO PEACE OFFICER TRAINING COMMISSION
3. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed or
serving in a school for which the state board of
education prescribes minimum standards
pursuant to division (D) of ORC 3301.07, the
minor is enrolled in or attends that school and
the offender is not enrolled in and does not
attend that school
4. The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach
or other person in authority employed by or
serving in an institution of higher education
and the minor is enrolled in or attends that
institution
5. The offender is a care giver, administrator or
other person in authority employed by or
serving in a child Day-care Center, Type ?A?
Family Day-care Home, or type ?B? Family
Day-care Home and the minor is enrolled in or
attends that center or home
6. The offender is the minor?s athletic or other
type of coach, is the minor?s instructor, is the
leader of a scouting troop of which the minor is
a member, provides baby-sitting care for the
minor, or is a person with temporary or
occasional disciplinary control over the minor
e. Division (E)
1. Secretly or surreptitiously?
2. Videotape, film, photograph, or otherwise
record another?
3. Under or through that person?s clothing?
4. For the purpose of viewing the body of or
undergarments worn by that person
3. Degree of Offense
a. Division (A), M-3
b. Division (B), M-2
c. Division (C), M-1
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2006, 07:13:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-10 15:49:00, KNOTTY wrote:

"Well I can't say that I got my hopes up, but thats what they get for the money. I could care less about the lackluster reporting, but give me a break. Nothing about the connection to other groups to which there have been deaths related came through. I would like to hear some of the names of the investigators. No mention was made about any of the research. Shabby reporting if you ask me."

Under the circumstances, I think Hagit did an excellent job reporting on the KHK protest. I'm sure time constraints limited how much of the protestor's interviews she could actually get on the air. Even though the piece on the protest was short, I beleive any publicity about protests at this point is bad for KHK and I welcome any time the media is able to devote to the controversy. In a town like Cincy that has a lot of powerful people who support KHK, and is a predominently Republican city, I think its amazing Hagit was even able to get the story aired at all.

Also, I have heard from a couple people I know in the Cincy area that watched, starting at 5pm, the story was repeatedly plugged before it actually aired during the 6pm broadcast. I was told that all the build up before the piece aired helped it come across as a big story. Thanks Hagit & WCPO!
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2006, 07:46:00 PM »
I agree with ye there nonconformistlaw about Hagit Limor.....I mean how many other stations in this area do we even see having the guts or tenacity to cover it at all. Also considering that Hagits station is owned by the scripps howard network (who have been longtime financial supporters of straight inc, and KHK)....Hagit Limor was facing a lot of odds to even get it aired at all. This she has done twice now. Hagit, thank you from the bottom of my heart! I am also glad that Hagit's recent trip to Germany was safe and also a very successful trip for her and her family. Great job Hagit!

warm regards,

-DP :smokin:  :wave:

It continues to amaze me to talk to law students -- college
graduates all and smarter than the average bear -- who will
seriously tell me about how dangerous mj is and how it
destroys the lives of those who use it and who, in the
very next sentence, will tell me how they and their
friends -- now CPAs, engineers, med students -- used
pot regularly through high school and college.  And
they don't see the contradiction between these statements.

We're not just talking ignorance here -- we are talking
deep down, serious, religious indoctrination.


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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2006, 01:25:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-12 16:46:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

 Hagit, thank you from the bottom of my heart! I am also glad that Hagit's recent trip to Germany was safe and also a very successful trip for her and her family. Great job Hagit!


Yeah, me too. I also wonder if/how much she may make the connection. They said on that broadcast that her dad's case was precident setting; that it opened the door for other former work camp inmates. Now this same dynasty is into the drug war as deep and as hard as they were into the holocaust. Wouldn't it be fantastic if, one day, some very influential person really stopped to think about the connection and similarities and explain it to the educated world so tht they understand?

Faith is believing something you know ain't true.
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2006, 01:41:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-13 10:25:00, Eudora wrote:

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On 2006-02-12 16:46:00, Deprogrammed wrote:


 Hagit, thank you from the bottom of my heart! I am also glad that Hagit's recent trip to Germany was safe and also a very successful trip for her and her family. Great job Hagit!




Yeah, me too. I also wonder if/how much she may make the connection. They said on that broadcast that her dad's case was precident setting; that it opened the door for other
former work camp inmates. Now this same dynasty is into the drug war as deep and as hard as they were into the holocaust. Wouldn't it be fantastic if, one day, some very influential person really stopped to think about the connection and similarities and explain it to the educated world so tht they understand?

Faith is believing something you know ain't true.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist


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Yes that would be awesome...and well needed!

warm regards,
-DP :smokin:

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