New "School" Construction by HLA Owner Killed by County?

[SHH]

Sorry, not stupid here. And the short bus comment was a reference more to Robert's slowness at comprehension than a slam at Short Bus himself. But hey if Shorty wants to dish it out...I can give back just as easily. Im not that much of a wus.

[SHH]

Well everything I have researched is that their type of school doesnt NEED a specific license in the state of Georgia. But others disagree with me, so thats why I say just call the state and see if that question can be answered by them.

[Troll Control]

On 2006-02-22 15:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I've never even gotten a straight answer as to what they're licensed as[/b].  Are they a therapeutic center or a school?"

They're not licensed as ANYTHING.  That's the problem.  HLA is an UNLICENSED RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER.

They practice therapy without a license to do so.  They run a 24/7 child care facility without a license to do so.

They list themselves as an "academics only boarding school" with the state.  They're phony, crooked and greedy.

Does that explain it?  I hope so, becaise if you're waiting for an intelligent response from SHH, you'll likely be long in the ground before that happens.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-22 15:51:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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On 2006-02-22 15:46:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I've never even gotten a straight answer as to what they're licensed as[/b].  Are they a therapeutic center or a school?"

They're not licensed as ANYTHING.  That's the problem.  HLA is an UNLICENSED RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER.



They practice therapy without a license to do so.  They run a 24/7 child care facility without a license to do so.



They list themselves as an "academics only boarding school" with the state.  They're phony, crooked and greedy.



Does that explain it?  I hope so, becaise if you're waiting for an intelligent response from SHH, you'll likely be long in the ground before that happens.
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Yes, DJ.  That explains it and I already knew that but I actually was looking for SHH to answer.  She's appointed herself spokesman for HLA so I was wondering how she'd explain the discrepancy.

[SHH]

I didnt appoint myself anything. All I am stating is my opinion from my knowledge of things or my experiences with things at the school. I already said I don't know what the school should be licensed as. According to what I read, they dont have to have a license to operate as the type of school they are in the state of Georgia, which is unique in that it is BOTH a boarding school and therapeutic. They are the only one like that as far as I know. That may be why the state doesnt have them showing as licensed. Call the state if you want an answer...or call the school...either way I dont know the answer you want and youll have to get it somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Her original position was that they were licensed and accredited. When is was revealed that she didn?t understand the difference, she changed her tact- claiming that Ga doesn?t require ?private? schools to be licensed.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=50#83239
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#171662
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#163958
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 110#148050

And here are her opinions on the original staff at RC, who were not qualified to hold their positions:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#95955
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=30#95979

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 15:33:00, SHH wrote:

"Robert I am not afraid of a single thing. I did NOTHING ILLEGAL can you not understand that? I remembered a first name of a kid. so fucking what? I didnt say WHEN he was there..I didnt say his last name, address, social security number, state he lived in, city he was from, what year he was there, nothing personal. I thought I remembered he was there for a few months, I think I said 3 or something. That was a guess. I thought the kid might be you...you said it wasnt. End of story. A first name could be anybody. I know for a fact there was more than one Devon there the years I lived on campus. I am not afraid of anything you threaten me with...and by the way, in case you have forgotten, you committed libel outright, who's got the case Robert? It sure isn't you. Get over the damn student's name thing already and move on. It's stupid, meaningless, and NOT ILLEGAL. Please read those words Robert...N O T  I L L E G A L. Read this too...I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU. Do you finally get that through your head now? I sure hope so.  :silly: "

My my Bullfrog why aer you getting so upset? So many curse words. Youre usually so together. Rough day?

Okay onto your nonsense.

.....

You know what the point has been made everyone on here with half a brain knows you posted the first name, date and length of stay of the student. They also know there is no way someone as limited as you could have such knowledge. Kick and scream all you want Bullfrog it changes nothing.

So here once again for the nine thousandth time is my challenge to you:

If you did nothing illegal do it again.

Release the name date and length of stay of another HLA student. Oh and claim and threaten to release where he lives.

If its legal you should be fine doing it.

As to your claims of libel, be serious Bullfrog, you have nothing on me. Well at least nothing I in turn couldnt countersue you for. Careful what you wish for slob.

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 15:41:00, SHH wrote:

"Because Robert is that fucking dense he can't get it through his head I didnt do anything illegal and keeps on repeating that crap over and over again. Tell him to shut the fuck up over his nonsense for once. Im tired of the bullshit from him. Its like he is slow or something. We need to change HIS name to Short Bus  :rofl: "

Ill do it just as soon as you change your name to Bullfrog the Brainless.


Deal?

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 15:44:00, SHH wrote:

"The licensure question is out of my league. You have to talk to the state on how best they should be licensed. As far as I know, from my research, they are operating legally. As far as being licensed to others satisfaction, thats up to them or the state to determine that. Ive already answered that same question several times."

Oh but apparently you were so eager to chat about before. Swore up and down HLA was properly licensed..excuse me you swore up and down it was properly ACCREDITED (all because youre to stupid to know the difference between licensed and accredited). You ranted on and on about how they had recieved a state commendation (neglecting to mention it was purchased through campaign contributions) yet now you want to claim the issue is out of your leauge?

I mean dont get me wrong I agree with you. I would even argue such tasks as shoe tying and coloring are out of your leauge but I am curious as to why the sudden change of heart.

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 15:46:00, SHH wrote:

"Sorry, not stupid here. And the short bus comment was a reference more to Robert's slowness at comprehension than a slam at Short Bus himself. But hey if Shorty wants to dish it out...I can give back just as easily. Im not that much of a wus."

No you really cant, and yes you really are.

[Anonymous]

***which is unique in that it is BOTH a boarding school and therapeutic.

Shall we split some hairs?
They don't meet the definition of a Boarding School put out many any organization concerned with such matters. Most importantly, the ICPC.

So, because they are the only 'BS w/therapeutics' in Ga, as you put it, and because the state has no classification for such an institution, they're exempt?

I think it has much more to do with lying or stretching the truth about 'services provided', because they absolutely meet the definition of an RTC.

My guess is that ORS is assuming that all aspects of the program are monitored by SACS, when in fact they are an 'accrediting' organization and as such are interested only in academics. And in light of what's been posted the last couple of days (re: all the "changes" and new equipment), one has to wonder exactly what SACS is looking for when they conduct their 'inspections'. If they in fact do.
Do they do inspections or doesn't HLA self-report?

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 15:47:00, SHH wrote:

"Well everything I have researched is that their type of school doesnt NEED a specific license in the state of Georgia. But others disagree with me, so thats why I say just call the state and see if that question can be answered by them."

We already did you stupid bitch thats the point. You meanwhile have done zero research and have not a clue as to what youre talking about yet you continue to pretend otherwise.

Tell us Bullfrog what is this research youve done?

You claim to have never spoken with ORS. Thats sort of the starting point as they are the licensing division for the state. Let me guess..your mole told you?

[RobertBruce]

On 2006-02-22 16:15:00, SHH wrote:

"I didnt appoint myself anything. All I am stating is my opinion from my knowledge of things or my experiences with things at the school. I already said I don't know what the school should be licensed as. According to what I read, they dont have to have a license to operate as the type of school they are in the state of Georgia, which is unique in that it is BOTH a boarding school and therapeutic. They are the only one like that as far as I know. That may be why the state doesnt have them showing as licensed. Call the state if you want an answer...or call the school...either way I dont know the answer you want and youll have to get it somewhere else."

Oh but thats not what you said..at all. Also theres a good chance that you didnt read anything about not having to be required to be licensed for the simple reason that I doubt you even know how to read. But on the off chance you can how much sense does it make that an RTC or even a Traditional boarding school wouldnt need to be licensed? Would you send your child to one? Stupid question I forgot you get off on these stories. Tell me Bullfrog how can something be both traditional and non traditional at the same time? Oh and as far as calling the school goes..well remember they tried your argument and claimed for sometime that RC was not required to be licensed.

Until Deborah stepped in. Same song and dance as before Bullfrog. You people will try and get with anything if you can...followed by calling us manipulators.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-02-22 17:31:00, RobertBruce wrote:

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On 2006-02-22 15:47:00, SHH wrote:


"Well everything I have researched is that their type of school doesnt NEED a specific license in the state of Georgia. But others disagree with me, so thats why I say just call the state and see if that question can be answered by them."

We already did you stupid bitch thats the point. You meanwhile have done zero research and have not a clue as to what youre talking about yet you continue to pretend otherwise.



Tell us Bullfrog what is this research youve done?



You claim to have never spoken with ORS. Thats sort of the starting point as they are the licensing division for the state. Let me guess..your mole told you?"

Word of warning-
She may come back and report that ORS claims they are a private BS, therefore exempt from licensing. I'm not sure what it will take for ORS to understand (or believe) the scope of services provided.
What Traditional BSs diagnose 'mental disorders', run 18-24 month 'programs', do not provide 3-4 years of continuous education for participants, deny access to family and family visits?

Kids are housed there 24/7. That is the only similarity.

[Deborah]

***He obviously doesn't belive you. Why do you think that telling him over and over again and YELLING it will somehow convince him?

Because she is a stauch believer in the program methods.