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« on: January 25, 2006, 01:20:00 PM »
Dear folks,
  I have a hunch. I think Joe Farrell and his partners at Quirk & Quirk will be celebrities one day. So I've become an avid collector of autographs. If you've got anything autographed by them, would you consider sending me a copy so that I can add it to my collection at http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/HLA/ I'd be ever so grateful!

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But this is far from demonstrating that the authorities must interpose to suppress these vices by commercial prohibitions, nor is it by any means evident that such intervention on the part of the government is really capable of suppressing them or that, even if this end could be attained, it might not therewith open up a Pandora's box of other dangers, no less mischievous than alcoholism and morphinism.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
Not yet.  But I have the sinking suspiscion that everyone who posts here is going to get hit.  The suppression machine is in full swing.

Maybe HLA Truth can tell us why they feel the need to sue everyone who disagrees with them, rather than just setting the record straight?

I mean, that's two lawsuits this week.  They've been very busy on that front.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 01:41:00 PM »
Whoops! Spoke too soon.  That's THREE lawsuits this week and TWO today.

Busier than I expected...


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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 01:44:00 PM »
Dysfunction, how are you finding out about the lawsuits, if you don't mind my asking?
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 02:00:00 PM »
Some have been made public by those who were served like OverLordd (3 months ago) and former patient WestSideStud420 (today).

Others have messaged me privately.  

Still others come to light when Ginger gets hit with the court order like ex-employee Marla (four moths ago, give or take), another former employee who I won't name because he hasn't made it public yet (the day before yesterday) and former patient "name withheld" because he hasn't gone public yet (today).

That's five in the past few months, three in the past week and two so far today, and there are probably more that I just haven't heard about yet.

You can see that they don't discriminate.  They go after former patients and former employees - anyone who speaks out about being treated badly there.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 02:11:00 PM »
Wow.

DJ, please check your PMs.  thanks
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 02:38:00 PM »
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"Some have been made public by those who were served like OverLordd (3 months ago) and former patient WestSideStud420 (today).



Others have messaged me privately.  



Still others come to light when Ginger gets hit with the court order like ex-employee Marla (four moths ago, give or take), another former employee who I won't name because he hasn't made it public yet (the day before yesterday) and former patient "name withheld" because he hasn't gone public yet (today).



That's five in the past few months, three in the past week and two so far today, and there are probably more that I just haven't heard about yet.



You can see that they don't discriminate.  They go after former patients and former employees - anyone who speaks out about being treated badly there.
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Unbelievable!  Westside was served today?  Must have missed that.  Where was it made public?
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 02:50:00 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2006, 11:00:00 AM »
Anybody else get sued yet today?  Just curious.

You know, I've been doing some thinking about this subject.  As an MBA, I often ponder the effects of business decisions.  I must admit that I am in a quandry as to why this facility would even want to broach the subject of suing its former patients.

It seems to me that not only does it look really bad from an ethical viewpoint, it is absolutely horrible from a  public realtions perspective.  Surely the marketing management cannot believe that this will do anything but severely constrict revenue.  

Exactly how do these people think a prosepective client would view the constant campaign of lawsuits against former patients?  If it were me, I would say to myself, "Gee, not only are they charging an exorbitant amount of money for their services, they might also sue me if I ever talk about my experiences."  This is a definite deal-killer.  There are no two ways about that.  It simply looks, sounds and feels completely unethical.

My second point is that should any one of the targets of this baseless litigation take the matter to trial or even to discovery for that matter, there is going to be a heck of a lot of damaging information made a matter of public record.  

The media is already beginning to seize upon the issues raised by former patients.  Once there are publicly documented statements and evidence entered into the public record, the "anti-program" media is going to have an absolute hay-day with it.  It's going to be picked up by outlets like AlterNet first, then it's going to spin off into more mainstream media and it's going to eventually find its way into anti-program websites like ISACCORP.org as a matter of abundantly documented public record for which there will be no rebuttal.

Are Kathleen and her cronies really so obtuse that they can't see which way the wind is blowing without checking the weathervane?  It is absolutely astounding to me that these people even entertain the idea that they can prevent the dissemination of damaging information to media outlets through litigation against patients.  I have the distinct intuition that this is going to blow up in their faces and destroy their already tenuous public image.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2006, 08:42:00 PM »
Yeah, but only when you call their bluff. Just talked to one of the targets. I can't say which one or which type of retribution they received. All I'll tell you is that they are seriously frightened!

If it makes ya'll feel any better, I've done this before. See http://fornits.com/anonanon/#Fay Never heard back from Lenny Englander about that, either, though I did get another letter demanding that I remove a website that I had nothing to do with. Come to think of it, I had way too many pots on the boil back then. I have a good many demand letters that I should scan in and publish. Think I'll just do that. I think I'll just call it the Dewey Cheetham & Howe Fan Club. (and no, I did not get that from Car Talk, but from the Three Stoodges, so there!)

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2006, 01:57:00 AM »
What goes around comes around, and it is coming..
They have had a pro-telecast with DR. Phil, but what
happens if Montel, Oprah, or Katie decides
to take the show....???Interesting...
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2006, 03:01:00 AM »
What? I missed that. I remember hearing that McGraw shipped a kid to Provo Canyon, but I never knew about him sending kids to HLA. Do tell!

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2006, 05:25:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-26 08:00:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"Anybody else get sued yet today?  Just curious.



You know, I've been doing some thinking about this subject.  As an MBA, I often ponder the effects of business decisions.  I must admit that I am in a quandry as to why this facility would even want to broach the subject of suing its former patients.



It seems to me that not only does it look really bad from an ethical viewpoint, it is absolutely horrible from a  public realtions perspective.  Surely the marketing management cannot believe that this will do anything but severely constrict revenue.  



Exactly how do these people think a prosepective client would view the constant campaign of lawsuits against former patients?  If it were me, I would say to myself, "Gee, not only are they charging an exorbitant amount of money for their services, they might also sue me if I ever talk about my experiences."  This is a definite deal-killer.  There are no two ways about that.  It simply looks, sounds and feels completely unethical.



My second point is that should any one of the targets of this baseless litigation take the matter to trial or even to discovery for that matter, there is going to be a heck of a lot of damaging information made a matter of public record.  



The media is already beginning to seize upon the issues raised by former patients.  Once there are publicly documented statements and evidence entered into the public record, the "anti-program" media is going to have an absolute hay-day with it.  It's going to be picked up by outlets like AlterNet first, then it's going to spin off into more mainstream media and it's going to eventually find its way into anti-program websites like ISACCORP.org as a matter of abundantly documented public record for which there will be no rebuttal.



Are Kathleen and her cronies really so obtuse that they can't see which way the wind is blowing without checking the weathervane?  It is absolutely astounding to me that these people even entertain the idea that they can prevent the dissemination of damaging information to media outlets through litigation against patients.  I have the distinct intuition that this is going to blow up in their faces and destroy their already tenuous public image.
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Yes, their very own behavior will definitely hit them in the pocketbook.  Suing kids so they shut up about what happened to them is patently crazy.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2006, 09:17:00 PM »
This is also common to the Troubled Parent industry. Check this out

The Horse Leah Stole. Now Leah, in my opinion, is one stout minded and dignified young lady! The Suds are facing trial soon on the charges to which Leah is a testifying wittness.

The cops in Nephi were not the least bit amused over the threats of violence coming to this gal. See, that's the problem w/ a scam like this. It's high turnover and money hungry. You know less about your marks than they do about you. Ya' just never know who you might be permanently pissing off.

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2006, 10:58:00 PM »
Sounds like someone is getting really close to the truth here. Endless litigation to take the focus off of something. Can't imagine what it can be. Will I be there next target because I dare ask a few questions? :rofl:

A fundamentalist Christian President who claims God told him to invade Iraq ? an act that killed more than 150,000 civilians, mostly women and children ? is not that much different from a fundamentalist Islamic fanatic who claims it is the will of Allah that he send young men to America to crash airliners into office buildings and kill 3,000 plus.

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