Suicide: A Means to an End

[Anonymous]

I was just thinking...I liked the posts that were on here a while ago about taking control of your life thru the act of suicide. This is why the idea would appeal to me. After a while you get tired of having to answer to and put up with other people which for the most part is an inevitable aspect of existing unless you happen to be independently wealthy.

[Anonymous]

To explain a little further...what I got from those posts and what I've considered to be true before ever seeing them was that suicide is the only real hassle-free way to take complete control of your own existence.

[Anonymous]

Another plus to suicide is that you could be "king for a day" and take some people that you'd like to kill with you before killing yourself, thus avoiding the ugly repercussions that go along with the act multiple homicide.

[Anonymous]

What if you could become independently wealthy? What if, instead of pointing the gun at yourself, you pointed it at someone else and made them give you their money? Plenty of stupid fucks walking all over L.A. with WAAAYY too much goddamn money in their spangly purses and shit. You might or might not consider it a hassle to mug them in the first place, but once you had mugged enough of them and invested wisely you too could be independently wealthy as well as having the satisfaction of having successfully redistributed a good deal of money that was in the hands of stupid fucks to yourself. Now THAT is the kind of satisfaction that could last a lifetime. God speed.

[Anonymous]

I hear you, but you could get caught doing that, and then where would you be?

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-23 09:36:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What if you could become independently wealthy? What if, instead of pointing the gun at yourself, you pointed it at someone else and made them give you their money? Plenty of stupid fucks walking all over L.A. with WAAAYY too much goddamn money in their spangly purses and shit. You might or might not consider it a hassle to mug them in the first place, but once you had mugged enough of them and invested wisely you too could be independently wealthy as well as having the satisfaction of having successfully redistributed a good deal of money that was in the hands of stupid fucks to yourself. Now THAT is the kind of satisfaction that could last a lifetime. God speed.

Thinning out the herd of people like this would be something that I would like to do before offing myself.

[TheWho]

but once you had mugged enough of them and invested wisely you too could be independently wealthy ......

You really think that the people with the mentality to mug people could have the patience and foresight to invest wisely, wait for it to mature and then limit their spending to dividend returns?  No way...

Mugging is fast money, easy, no brainer, instant cash, power........  spend it all ....mug someone else........  eventually get caught ... why?..... no plan ..... no self control .... no patience.

Over thousands of years I dont believe there are many success stories with mugging as a beginning,  they all end up in jail thinking about a new plan...........  fast cash .... spend it all ..... steal somemore ..... no self control ...... no ptaience .... no foresight ..... no tomorrow?

[Anonymous]

It was a random suggestion to cheer people up. I'm sure people would be just as entertained by anything you had to say on the subject of investing and self-control and patience.

[Antigen]

On 2006-01-23 12:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

Over thousands of years I dont believe there are many success stories with mugging as a beginning, they all end up in jail thinking about a new plan........... fast cash .... spend it all ..... steal somemore ..... no self control ...... no ptaience .... no foresight ..... no tomorrow?

"It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases."--Schiller (1759-1805)

Clearly, you're not much of a history buff.

The introduction of a Creator has done our independence no good.
--Gore Vidal, author

[TheWho]

On 2006-01-23 12:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

"It was a random suggestion to cheer people up. I'm sure people would be just as entertained by anything you had to say on the subject of investing and self-control and patience. "

I think we have been entertained, I have been, thank you !!!

Clearly, you're not much of a history buff.

Not a buff but Cognizant of areas that I am interested in.  
Attempts are plenty and well documented as well as short term happiness, but very few long term success stories of people who started out mugging others on the street.

[Anonymous]

The control of you life come from control of your mind.  If you kill yourself you detroy the physical body but not the spirit.

There are many ways to take control of your own life, if you find any joy in living. You must give up the desire for anything material and then you can hang on a beach all day and night. I knew a guy who lived in a broken down car - truthfully - and all he cared about was scrapping together enough dough for a pack of butts. He lived on Collins Ave and 183rd Street in a car in North Miami Beach and he was happy.

Killing yourself or others seems more like saying to the world "Ahh you got me". Being a beach bum or whatever is more like telling the world to screw....

[Anonymous]

The control of you life come from control of your mind. If you kill yourself you detroy the physical body but not the spirit.

I look at suicide as a way to wipe the slate clean...or perhaps more accurately, to do away with 'the slate' completely. I don't believe in reincarnation. Thanks for the advice to renounce material things, but after some consideration I think that I much prefer the "crash and burn" approach -- it sounds like more fun despite its brevity.

[Antigen]

On 2006-01-23 12:32:00, Anonymous wrote:


Not a buff but Cognizant of areas that I am interested in.  

Attempts are plenty and well documented as well as short term happiness, but very few long term success stories of people who started out mugging others on the street."

Yeah, right. And nobody ever escaped the Program w/o getting caught and brought back. And everybody who fucked up or didn't graduate is dead, insane or in jail, right?

The thing is, you only know about the muggers who get busted. How many mugging cases go unsolved each year? You can't say a thing about those muggers, you don't even know who they are, they're that good. Now, unsolved murders are another story. People will dog those cases just about forever, and rightly so.

Much of what you know just ain't so.

Now, I'm not advocating mugging. Just pointing out that fear of getting busted is not a particularly effective or worthy aversion. I don't mug people because I'm not a thug. But don't assume that all thugs are thoughtless, careless and to be dismissed. After all, Art Barker started out his very lucrative career as a common street thug, just like so many other professional alcoholics.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.
--Anonymous

[Anonymous]

On 2006-01-23 15:06:00, Anonymous wrote:

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The control of you life come from control of your mind. If you kill yourself you detroy the physical body but not the spirit.

I look at suicide as a way to wipe the slate clean...or perhaps more accurately, to do away with 'the slate' completely. I don't believe in reincarnation. Thanks for the advice to renounce material things, but after some consideration I think that I much prefer the "crash and burn" approach -- it sounds like more fun despite its brevity."

You're saying you can predict the future, and it will always be this bad?  Send me some FL lottery numbers before you go.  Seriously, you're looking at this thing from a skewed perspective.  I'm not saying don't do it, just recognize that once it is done, all options are gone---you reallly will have finally lost control.  That's pretty much just giving in without exploring all the alternatives, and is in reality the loss of all control, you would really be giving in to that which you seem to believe is the least desirable of all situations.

True control can be exerted by living in spite of the obstacles in front of you.  Trite, but true.  Suicide is truly an act of the out of control, the lost, the aimless.  Ironically, these same people often think that they have "figured it all out", when in reality theyy are only looking at one limited perspective.

Seems like suicide would be ultimate powerlessness, yet qanother statistic for the "deadinsaneinjail" crowd to cry about at their meetings.  Akin to self-castration, really, a self-induced impotence.  

Again, I'm not saying don't do it, just recognize all the implications and repercussions, and explore all other options first.  If you do it, you will no longer be capable of or have power over anything.

[TheWho]

Now, I'm not advocating mugging. Just pointing out that fear of getting busted is not a particularly effective or worthy aversion. I don't mug people because I'm not a thug. But don't assume that all thugs are thoughtless, careless and to be dismissed. After all, Art Barker started out his very lucrative career as a common street thug, just like so many other professional alcoholics.

I am not thinking that they are thoughtless just that it leads to a dead end.  Remember that we are refering to the quote:

but once you had mugged enough of them and invested wisely you too could be independently wealthy ......

My point is that it is not a path of success, as history will back up..... people of this caliber just dont invest their money wisely (in general) I am sure we can point out exceptions, but history has not been kind to them in their writtings and that is how we must base our positions