Anne S. Hall aka "Ottawa5" aka "Gentiana" - What Do You Know

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Please, do tell.  This will make a very interesting "armchair psychological profile" of an obviously deeply disturbed woman.

Maybe you've dealt with her in CEDU's parent seminars?

Maybe you've attended some classes with her at U of M?

Maybe you've heard what her son has to say about her?

Maybe you belong to the same Country Club?

Maybe you are friends with (or are) her ex-husband?

What can you tell about her son who left RMA in 1999?

This is certain to be a very interesting discussion.  Please try to stay on topic in this thread.  If your purpose is to flame Anne, please do it in the "Ottawa Sucks Moosecock" thread in the CEDU forum, as it won't be germane to our more thoughtful discussion here.

Thank you.

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I know her personally, too. "Ottawa" is intelligent, ignorant, gifted with words, and cold-hearted. Also, many of us who know her definitely know that something is amiss. I mean there is SERIOUSLY something wrong with her - it's her personality. This woman is sick and she believes she's God's answer to everything.

I know her through a professional contact - I do not wish to say more.

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my mother is a fucking bitch and my father is a dumbass
Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: Dec 27, 2005 - 10:04 PM  
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 in the spirt of christmas i thought i would be the first to say what many are thinking this time of year: parents are a bitch.

i love my parents and am glad i can anonymously talk on hear.

theres a lot of other shit that gets piled on those good feelings.

my mom is such a fuck up. its like she never wanted to grow up. now she is like a small child trapped in a midlle aged wmans body. she has temper tantrums and acts like a bitch. she can never think about how she hurts everyone by all the things she does. she is just so selfish, like a little baby who knows nothing more than what they want. she does not act like an adult who is ideally selfless and thinks of little more than what there children want and need.

my dad is such a prick too. he is really domineering and thinks he knows everything. he thinks because he is a big success in life he knows everything. he is always blaming everyone else for any mistakes he makes. i see him less though since hes' always worked, so my mom is really the big fucking bitch in my life.

sometimes i just want to tell her what a fucking stupid cunt she is. i want to tell her to fuck off and that she is a shitty mom. but that ends up hurting me too. what i really want is for her to just love me and be my mom. i want her to be selfless and take care of me. but if you ask her this she acts all like "i have my own shit to deal with, i can't worry about your needs". If shes so fucked up why doesnt she just see a therapist or something. what a fucking bitch. i hate christmas.  
 
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Anonymous
Unregistered User Posted: Dec 28, 2005 - 11:29 AM  

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 let me guess: anne hall is your mom, right?
 
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THIS WOMAN SURE KNOW HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS!!   :nworthy:  :lol:

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I've had a few run-ins with this psychopath.  She's made all sorts of threats - to sue me, to find out my address and post it, to find out where I work and try to get me fired, etc.  

This is all, originally, because I rejected her reasoning and had what should have been an intellectual argument with her.  Of course, as anyone who has dealt with her knows, she became abusive and condescending, getting progressively more viscious and threatening.

She has been known to post posing as her son, posing as her daughter and just simply anonymously.  She no longer uses her handle at all on this forum because she has flamed and derided so many people that she is immediately attacked if she does post.

Just recently, on another thread, she has appealed to users of this forum to give out whatever personal information they may have about me in order to criminally harrass me by trying to use whatever information she could get to report it to my employer and get me fired from my position.  

Fortunately, she is so universally despised on this forum (and apparently in her life, according to some of her profesional contacts) that she had no takers on her inquiry.

My advice is to steer clear of this rude and abusive drunken sot.

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Ok, Annie, if you want you can use this avatar. Did you know that Woody Allen's original name for the movie and leading lady was Annie Hedonea. That's what the movie was really all about.

If triangles had a God, He'd have three sides.
--Old Yiddish proverb

[Anonymous]

Eudora the bad ass...goin' for that 10,000 post milestone baby. I'll bet she hits it by April.

Ginger, I'm your biggest groupie!

[Anonymous]

You know you people are crazy.  

I'm a friend of a family member and heard about what's going on here. No personal bone to pick just a college student who's heard about EM schools and had a couple of friends in one of them.  Really no opinion on them beyond that

She sure doesn't act like somebody who's guilty or upset or cares much about the whole thing

What you're doing here is strange.  It makes no sense.  Anybody who knows Anne Hall would just dismiss you as crack-pots because there's no way for a bunch of reasons that you could be right in all these claims you're making I can think of some things you're claiming that aren't even possible

Anyone who knows Anne Hall knows that she is a good person. She's taken in foster kids that nobody else wants. Not one but many, even teenagers who are real hard to place. For years. She's run support groups for kids with no economic resources, worked with gifted kids who otherwise wouldn't even get to college or do well. Her house is always a home for teens who I bet would be getting into trouble if they had no place to hang. She's won awards for her work too.


So I hear about this board from my friend and I come here and I can't believe what I'm hearing.  Maybe you guys are frauds and making posts and claiming that they're hers because you just hate these schools and she doesn't.
Maybe others have posted in her name.  The whole IP address thing doesn't mean much:lots of people can post from the same location: that info tells you WHERE the post is coming from not WHO it's coming

So congrats guys you've worked hard at defaming a nice woman who you're lucky doesn't sue the asses off you

Yet.  I understand some people in her life are encouraging her to think about it

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Hi, Annie!  Nice of you to spell the same words wrong and forget your punctuation like you always do!   :wave:  :wave:  :wave:

On the odd chance that this poster ISN'T Annie, just do a search of the posts of Ottawa5.  You're in for an eyeful.  That lady is SICK!

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Thom Hartmann's "Independent Thinker" Book of the Month Review (excerpt)

An American Jew of German ancestry, and a brilliant reporter, Mayer went to Germany 7 years after Hitler's fall and befriended 10 Nazis. This book is, in large part, his story of that experience. Intertwined through it -- written in 1955 -- are repeated overt and subtle warnings to future generations of Americans -- us, today.

Mayer opens the book by noting that he was prepared to hate the Nazis he would meet. But, he wrote, he discovered they were just as human as the rest of us:

I liked them. I couldn't help it. Again and again, as I sat or walked with one or another of my ten [Nazi] friends, I was overcome by the same sensation that had got in the way of my newspaper reporting in Chicago years before [in the 1930s]. I liked Al Capone. I liked the way he treated his mother. He treated her better than I treated mine.

http://www.buzzflash.com/premiums/05/11/pre05154.html

Excellent book, that one. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the phenomena of massive denial of the obvious. Not only does the author have an unparalleled standing and perspective, he's just a damned fine student of human behavior and an eloquent writer.

The sadist cannot stand the separation of the public and the private; nor can he grant to others the mystery of their personality, the validity of their inner self...in order for him to feel his maximum power, he wants the world to be peopled with concrete manipulatable objects...
-- ERNEST BECKER, The Structure of Evil, 1968.

[Anonymous]

Oh, boy. You don't know her the way I do. She is a self-absorbed, egotistical narcissist. She caused more pain here than anyone else. If you?re so dedicated to her, go through and read ALL of her posts. Also, under my user name, I received a couple of threatening emails from her. Ironic ? she had no idea that she knows me!

Sure, she thinks she?s changing the world. But she is one of those people who is literally incapable of listening to anything ? to actually hearing anything ? that she disagrees with. She puts on a good act and has a lot of people fooled. But make no mistake about it, all of her ?helping? is actually feeding her enormous ego.

Some people help others because they want to ? because their hearts are in it. This woman is only serving herself. Believe it.

On 2006-01-28 10:02:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You know you people are crazy.  



I'm a friend of a family member and heard about what's going on here. No personal bone to pick just a college student who's heard about EM schools and had a couple of friends in one of them.  Really no opinion on them beyond that



She sure doesn't act like somebody who's guilty or upset or cares much about the whole thing



What you're doing here is strange.  It makes no sense.  Anybody who knows Anne Hall would just dismiss you as crack-pots because there's no way for a bunch of reasons that you could be right in all these claims you're making I can think of some things you're claiming that aren't even possible



Anyone who knows Anne Hall knows that she is a good person. She's taken in foster kids that nobody else wants. Not one but many, even teenagers who are real hard to place. For years. She's run support groups for kids with no economic resources, worked with gifted kids who otherwise wouldn't even get to college or do well. Her house is always a home for teens who I bet would be getting into trouble if they had no place to hang. She's won awards for her work too.





So I hear about this board from my friend and I come here and I can't believe what I'm hearing.  Maybe you guys are frauds and making posts and claiming that they're hers because you just hate these schools and she doesn't.

Maybe others have posted in her name.  The whole IP address thing doesn't mean much:lots of people can post from the same location: that info tells you WHERE the post is coming from not WHO it's coming



So congrats guys you've worked hard at defaming a nice woman who you're lucky doesn't sue the asses off you



Yet.  I understand some people in her life are encouraging her to think about it



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[Anonymous]

Haha oh man, that is Annie AGAIN! Sticking up for herself now as a "friend of a friend of a cousin who was a male stripper at annie's son's big 18th birthday party".

Annie sucks moose cock.

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So congrats guys you've worked hard at defaming a nice woman who you're lucky doesn't sue the asses off you

Yet. I understand some people in her life are encouraging her to think about it

She had better get ready to get hit hard with countersuits.  She's done several iilegal things on here including soliciting personal information about posters for the purpose of committing a crime and/or tort.  She has also defamed several others.  If she thinks she's the only one who can get free legal representation to take this all the way to the end, she had better re-evaluate the situation.

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Oh man, shut up you little fairies. No one's gonna make a lawsuit over some silly little posts on an anti-cedu message board. Eat a dick, every last one of you little whiney bitches, and you can SUE ME for that one. CEDU rules!

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On 2006-01-29 09:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh man, shut up you little fairies. No one's gonna make a lawsuit over some silly little posts on an anti-cedu message board. Eat a dick, every last one of you little whiney bitches, and you can SUE ME for that one. CEDU rules!"

This one's definitely not Annie.  Too honest.

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I've looked over this board to see if indeed anything illegal is going on.  My interest has been in terms of Mrs. Hall when someone associated with all this controversy brought Fornits to my attention. However I believe that my comments may be useful in general for helping many participants just take a deep breath and get real about the nature of a forum of this type.

I understand that part of the internet subculture is bluff and bravado. That is what it is, though perhaps not particularly admirable. What I see here does not seem to me to rise to the level of any tort or crime.  Specifically there does not seem to be anything wrong with any poster asking other posters about the identity of someone.  This is constitutionally protected discouse.  An individual does not have any protected right to come to a site like this and be guaranteed anonymity.

I believe that this would be true even if the intent behind the information is to embarass the person identified.

Now if there were reasonable indications that the person trying to make the identification were individually or as part of a conspiracy intending to do physical harm to the poster or even use the information to harass by going to the poster's home and threatening him or her or something of that nature, well there is probably a tort or even a crime involved. Using the information for blackmail would fall into the same categories. I would recommend a phone tap and other measures for anyone who felt themselves so threatened.

This is quite different that asking for information, getting it, and talking about it, all of which is protected. People do not have a right to anonymity by using a screen name. That's my view of it, any of you is able to seek legal advice if you disagree.

I would really encourage all of you to think about your  behavior here.  Some of the comments made would not encourage me as a parent to be impressed by the arguments put forward. If you don't like each then just don't talk to each other. If you really want to take the high road just don't even talk about each other.

And use all this energy for something productive.