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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2006, 08:03:00 PM »
You still haven't answered how you can delete whatever gets in the way of your information control here, any thread by me or anyone else that YOU decide is something that should be deleted, and then say that you can't delete what you want to delete.

You have not explained that yet.

You have been censoring and deleting quite a lot, noticeable to all the folks watching the football game. Who's to say those posts weren't valid information, valid things for a Straight survivor to say or read? Who are you to say what their purpose is and decide to delete them from the communications of survivors to survivors here? Again, YOU show that YOU decide what is a worthy thread or not around here, and delete according to YOUR vision and will.

Therefore, all of your complex and purposefully confusing claims that you cannot and do not moderate are shown to be false.

If people can post here all kind of lies over and over again about how they fucked Helen Petermann, why can't someone come here and joke around about bananas and stuff all morning without you getting your paranoid tyrant in there deleting everything?

I can't control you, quit being so paranoid. I CAN however, say whatever the fuck I want to say within the parameters of your technological advancement over all the posters in your kingdom here. You rule by forced forfeit, but I am showing the people how they too can really and truly post whatever they want in response to your stated word that people can post whatever they want and you cannot and will not do anything about it.

Now, again, if you can delete and lock threads on any old day you want when you get up and decide to feel threatened by the excessive number of threads that seem to be silly or subversive or somehow saying something other than that which YOU want said here, why can't you with equal ease of deployment take down the slander on Straight survivors?

Whether or not anyone else has decided that their cause is in agreement, that the slander and personal names can and should be taken down, not because I can control you or ever could or would, but because we here when all is said and done know darn well there is a modicum of moderation already in that Antigen has deleted and censored and lied and engaged in distraction tactics already, so she can just as easily take down the slander on survivors, is not my concern. I see that Ginger likes to delete. I am showing her some things to delete that could just as easily, and with equal reason to the reason behind the deletion of anything I or anyone else says, be deleted.

Otherwise, if we are in agreement that nothing can get deleted, then nothing can get deleted. Either some things can with equal reason get deleted, or nothing can get deleted. Or you, Ginger, find yourself at the helm of a cult by virtue of your control of what gets deleted and what does not get deleted. What you deem to be "denial of service" attacks are really just denial of your control of a space that is inherently socially owned. Within the parameters of the ability of the people to own the space and actually do what they want within it, they will, it is only natural.
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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2006, 08:03:00 PM »
You still haven't answered how you can delete whatever gets in the way of your information control here, any thread by me or anyone else that YOU decide is something that should be deleted, and then say that you can't delete what you want to delete.

You have not explained that yet.

You have been censoring and deleting quite a lot, noticeable to all the folks watching the football game. Who's to say those posts weren't valid information, valid things for a Straight survivor to say or read? Who are you to say what their purpose is and decide to delete them from the communications of survivors to survivors here? Again, YOU show that YOU decide what is a worthy thread or not around here, and delete according to YOUR vision and will.

Therefore, all of your complex and purposefully confusing claims that you cannot and do not moderate are shown to be false.

If people can post here all kind of lies over and over again about how they fucked Helen Petermann, why can't someone come here and joke around about bananas and stuff all morning without you getting your paranoid tyrant in there deleting everything?

I can't control you, quit being so paranoid. I CAN however, say whatever the fuck I want to say within the parameters of your technological advancement over all the posters in your kingdom here. You rule by forced forfeit, but I am showing the people how they too can really and truly post whatever they want in response to your stated word that people can post whatever they want and you cannot and will not do anything about it.

Now, again, if you can delete and lock threads on any old day you want when you get up and decide to feel threatened by the excessive number of threads that seem to be silly or subversive or somehow saying something other than that which YOU want said here, why can't you with equal ease of deployment take down the slander on Straight survivors?

Whether or not anyone else has decided that their cause is in agreement, that the slander and personal names can and should be taken down, not because I can control you or ever could or would, but because we here when all is said and done know darn well there is a modicum of moderation already in that Antigen has deleted and censored and lied and engaged in distraction tactics already, so she can just as easily take down the slander on survivors, is not my concern. I see that Ginger likes to delete. I am showing her some things to delete that could just as easily, and with equal reason to the reason behind the deletion of anything I or anyone else says, be deleted.

Otherwise, if we are in agreement that nothing can get deleted, then nothing can get deleted. Either some things can with equal reason get deleted, or nothing can get deleted. Or you, Ginger, find yourself at the helm of a cult by virtue of your control of what gets deleted and what does not get deleted. What you deem to be "denial of service" attacks are really just denial of your control of a space that is inherently socially owned. Within the parameters of the ability of the people to own the space and actually do what they want within it, they will, it is only natural.
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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2006, 08:33:00 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2006, 08:50:00 PM »
You can say whatever you want. You just can't shout everybody else down. You're trying to prevent anybody having any discussion about anything you don't approve. And you're going about it just exactly the way a two year old throwing a screaming fit. No peace till everybody bows to you.

Wanna talk about banannas? Fine, start A thread abut banannas and have a blast. I don't even have to know what it means to you. It's not my business. But a couple of hundred threads that nobody's even contributing to? That's not discussion or communication, that's a denial of service attack. Denial of service attacks are not speech, they're censorship.

The problem with the "teen help" industry is that it's a bad "solution" in search of a problem.

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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2006, 09:23:00 PM »
Look, I really am interested in your take on all of this and in seeing how your strategy plays out against mine. If you'll please concede on the flooding, I'd love to continue the debate. I think it's interesting and worthy. And I'd like for other people to be able to find it and, if they want to, to weigh in.

Of course I think you're wrong and you're sure I am. Otherwise, there would be nothing to discuss.

But I think you and I have very different ideas about what liberty is and which responsibilities are legitimate.

Here, this nifty flash animation well represents my views on liberty and responsibility:

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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2006, 09:30:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-22 17:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You still haven't answered how you can delete whatever gets in the way of your information control here, any thread by me or anyone else that YOU decide is something that should be deleted, and then say that you can't delete what you want to delete.


Yes she has, dipshit.  :roll:  Every one of your insipid, redundant, annoying, obsessive and antagonistically phrased questions.  You just don't like or agree with the answer.
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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2006, 10:53:00 PM »
I'm sorry, I have to apologize for the music in that flash animation. This is a much better version.

http://jonathangullible.com/mmedia/philosop.swf

We just couldn't contact the copyright owner. So, technically, ISIL couldn't use it. But I have less liability and I like this one better. If they ever hit me up, I'll either pay them if I can or quit using it. But I just think it's better. And, FWIW, I think Jefferson made an error in reasoning when he advocated the patent and copyright system to begin with. People create cause they're driven to, not for the money. The money is secondary kudos sometimes, nothing more.

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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2006, 11:26:00 AM »
Antigen, you would be much more believable if you did not lie.

The only reason I can say whatever I want is that I can reroute around all your attempts to block me. There were no two hundred threads. That is a bald-faced lie.

If you had any interest in open discussion, you would not have started out about a week ago abusing and ridiculing whoever you thought this might be. Abuse, ridicule, blocking certain posters, deleting and locking posts have nothing to do with open discussion.

Until there is open discussion and the truth is laid out plain and simple for everyone to see, that you have no logical nor legal leg to stand on anymore in your crusade to allow slander to remain on your website because you do in fact delete whatever you want to delete, you can keep on lying and abusing people who secure for themselves the right to free speech, and we can keep on sending your forum to hell.

How can you think yourself any proponent of free speech, when all anyone ever did yesterday was put up one page plus about four threads of jokes and whatever before we ran out of bananas and had to go to the store? You really look silly being such a tyrant - locking, deleting and blocking a monkey like me.
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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2006, 11:26:00 AM »
Dude, you are one sorry fuck. Get a fuckin' life.
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