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« on: December 24, 2005, 04:43:00 PM »
There was an article in D.C.'s City Paper (not the best news source, I grant you) a few months back about how a few stores (the Dollar stores mainly) have just given in to shoplifting. One of these stores was in Southeast and was run by a man from Ethiopia I think and he has sort of a tacit agreement with the locals in his neighborhood. You can shoplift, but only necessities-which he defines as bread, food, and diapers. But if he catches you shoplifting something like batteries...no go and you're not allowed back in. He began this arrangement because he felt it actually reduced shoplifting because people don't want to take advantage of him when he is considered so giving. Part of this agreement was also based on his religious values that you should aid your neighbor. His store is also 4 blocks from the police station, so every time somebody shop lifted he'd run down there, but then they'd make him place a phone call, and by the time the police came the kid would be long gone. He was tired of getting in to physical altercations over a dollar item.

I found it very disturbing this store owner felt he had to agree to shoplifting just to stop it from being so pervasive.

In his excellent book Migrations and Cultures, Thomas Sowell goes into the middleman minority phenomenon at length. It's fascinating how intensely these people are hated for providing necessary services at reasonable prices. The examples we're most familiar with are Jews (even after the Holocaust, still subject to discrimination in Europe) and Korean store owners in black neighborhoods here in the US. Ice Cube has a song out called "Black Korea" that encourages violence against the latter.

So my parents have a 5th grade education but run a store. The store was in downtown area, 99% black community and we were shoplifted 4 out of the 6 days we were open. We were closed on sundays because of church at it being the sabbath and all. The store was open 7 AM til 9 PM. Around 4 or 5 PM we would have tons of kids come in and thanks to surveillance systems that were set up after 6 years of scraping nickels and dimes together, we finally got on tape of these kids stuffing their book bags with candy, chips, and soda pop. We show the tapes to the children's parents because we know all of them on a first name basis. You know what the parents tell us? "Oh, it's okay. They're just kids and it's not like they're stealing all that much." We can't report them to the police because they're underage and we do not want them to go to jail or anything like that. We ask the kids why they steal and they mock us saying "ching chong chinese i can't understand you. Speak english chink." So we ask another customer to ask for us and the kids tell them "mind your own f***ing business." This happens almost everyday. Let's say they steal $.10 4 days out of 6. In one year, that is $146 per kid. Let's say out of 75 kids, only 10 actually steal. That's $1460 per year. When less than $12,000 is made per year, that's a lot of money. Do you think we want to work under these conditions? Without any insurance or heating or air condition in the house because we cannot afford them? We save enough money after 12 years of living in this hole. We sold the store to some black folks who said they wanted to run a business. Because we know they do not have money even though it was valued at $300,000 because we renovated the building little by little every year to make it better, we sold it for $175,000. 2 weeks after we sell, we found out from friends that the new owners sold it to other black folks for $500,000. Now it is a clothing store. Recently when we drove by, the glass windows were all shattered and held together with tape and kids, the same ones that stole from our store, were running out with arm full of clothes. A few minutes later, the owner stepped out looking ready to cry and went back in. Just posting a personal experience. Now I'm in college, and my friends back home tell me the kids who used to steal stuff all have gone to jail for one crime or another.

Apollonia Jordan, crack reporter for SF Bayview, National Black Newspaper, provides a textbook case of demonizing middleman minorities in a rant against Asian-owned beauty supply stores :

 "Evil paranoid hate-bearing eyes are what Black people get when they walk into these Asian-owned beauty supply stores making money in our community. Every time we go into one of these stores, there is an Asian person following us around making us feel uncomfortable in your [sic] own community, because in their minds every Black person steals. These people have come into our community & taken over our beauty supply industry & what are we gonna do about it?"
Apollonia makes the ludicrous claim that Asian-run stores have "locked out Black-owned manufacturers from opening up beauty supply chains." Of course, the only way a new minority can 'take over' a market is to undersell, in this case by providing service in high-risk, high-crime neighborhoods.

William Raspberry on middleman minorities: "Their advantage is not knowledge but values: the willingness to live upstairs over the store, to put their children to work behind the counter & to keep to themselves. Make no mistake, they do serve - no matter that their service is likely to be described by those who depend on it as gouging, exploitation or bloodsucking.

"The problem is, their entrepreneurial activity often involves intangibles: walk-to locations, convenient business hours, willingness to run the risks of robbery, theft & nonpayment - all of which are exchanged for cash."
 Thomas Sowell: "Where the middleman function has been performed by an ethnically distinct group, such groups have been among the most hated minorities anywhere. Few have experienced the centuries of animosity, persecution, mob violence, mass expulsions & wholesale slaughters which have been the fate of such middleman minorities as the overseas Chinese in Southeast Asia, the Jews in Eastern Europe or the Armenians in Turkey.

"All the blacks lynched in the entire history of the U.S. do not add up to the number of Chinese slaughtered in one year in 18th-century Vietnam or in 17th-century Philippines, & the mass killings of Armenians & Jews in the 20th century have been many times greater. Often such groups have been accused of charging exploitative prices & usurious interest. Yet it has been common for their expulsion to be followed by rising prices, higher interest rates & shortages of goods."
Kim McKee on the Black-Korean Conflict (pdf): "Many African Americans are unaware that these stores operate on a low overhead & are mom-and-pop establishments, where in the owner's mind, any time he loses a candy bar, a bottle of milk, or a package of cracker jacks, that?s 10ยข more he has to take out of his pocket to service the debt.

"Merchants in D.C. routinely work 12-to-14 hour days, 6 days a week. Yong Kim, a Korean grocery store owner, works from 10 to 9, 6 days a week, every week of the year because the $5700/month he owes in rent & taxes means he can never close his store. Kathleen Hom, a mayoral assistant on the Commission on Asian & Pacific Islander Affairs, discovered that merchants make an average of $8000 a year: 'Most rent their spaces & have no medical or property insurance.'"
Note that Apollonia's rant is in a paper that's big on reparations. So while she's pissed at the work ethic of Asian immigrants, the message to black kids is, Whitey owes you, so why work hard?
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2005, 04:56:00 PM »
Oh man, right the fuck on!
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2005, 06:30:00 PM »
Wow, you're on a regular crusade, aren't you? First your diatribe against the Mexicans, and now one against the blacks.

I'm sure I can come up with a million reasons to find fault with your race as well, you know. Didn't you say you were Chinese? Damn, I hope you don't drive. And as for my people, well, we run the media, you know.

Your error is that you are conflating class with race. I bet you a million bucks that the poor white kids in that neighborhood were shoplifting, too. (And yes, there ARE poor white folks in the projects.) The only difference was that they probably got away with it, because your parents were too busy watching the black kids. You wouldn't believe how many white people shoplift. Even priviliged, middle-class white people who don't need to shoplift do so. Why? Because it's so damn easy. Nobody's watching us. They're all watching the blacks and latinos.

But why discriminate? Aren't most people stupid assholes anyway, regardless of their ethnicity? We all just have special individual ways of being assholes, depending on where we came from. All the colors of the asshole rainbow.

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2005, 06:47:00 PM »
mazel tov :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »
I am not confusing class and race .  If  you do not make 3k a month than you cannot afford to raise a kid without shoplifting or being a burden to the taxpayer .  Simply force people onto birth control until they have proven they can afford kids without becoming sociopaths who think that because others do it and don't get caught than it is okay.

Statistics show that for every white or asian caught shoplifting   ten blacks do it and there are ten times more  whites and asians.   Less than  3%  of the projects in the inner city are white occupied  and  in the largest cites there are no whites allowed .  whites and asians can be rehabilitated   blacks have not proven that they can  no matter how much free housing they are given.    Whites do not shoplift anywhere near the amount that blacks  do  .   No black grocerys in south central los angeles and in many large citys    because  of  shrinkage .   If  whites behaved like blacks did  there would  no stores in WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS.    once blacks move in everybody moves out .   take a look at your city.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2005, 08:50:00 PM »
Please meet Dr. Thomas Sowell
Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow
The Hoover Institution
Stanford University
Stanford, California 94305
http://www.tsowell.com/

The man is very intelligent, intellectually curious and meticulous in his work. In other words, I think he's right nearly all the time. Now, compare his history supported arguments w/ the obnoxious rantings and ravings of that joker, Cosby, who only plays a doctor on tv.

He's right this time, too. I think he skips an important part of the equation, though. There are good reasons why kids w/ distinctive ethnicity come up fulfilling these stereotypes. For one, right from the beginning, as soon as they go to school they start getting special treatment, asif they're something less than. And it's reenforced (as Sowell notes above) by the rest of the community. I've seen it. Black people do get the eye damned near everywhere they go. Hell, if you want to shoplift, the very best time to do it is when a couple of black kids enter a store.

It's self perpetuating. And, no coincidence I think, pervasive in just about every part of the country. Have we always been this homogeneous? Or is it the standardized curriculum written by Ivy League social anthropologists and psychologists?
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2005, 09:13:00 PM »
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"I am not confusing class and race .  If  you do not make 3k a month than you cannot afford to raise a kid without shoplifting or being a burden to the taxpayer .  Simply force people onto birth control until they have proven they can afford kids without becoming sociopaths who think that because others do it and don't get caught than it is okay.

Welcome, Chairman Mao's Ghost! Never thought you'd make it. Please allow me to introduce you to Scrooge McCzar. You might get along alright, seein as how you're all dead and prone to fantasy and such.

Here's a better idea. Why not try and figure out why so damned many people can't make it here anymore. Ya' know, the working poor have been with us always. They just got their own designated buzz phrase when a significant number of them started looking rather pale compared to the good old days when they wuz all nigras, as the old lady down the street used to say cause she honestly thought it was the polite term for nigger. Nice lady, too. Just severely misguided and none too bright. I think she was the only one in the neighborhood who didn't know her husband was gay.  

There was a time in this country when our foreign dignataries could honestly answer questions about poverty in America with "We'll let you know when we see some." What were we doing differently then? It wasn't welfare or any other socialist programs. It was what the Europeans kept calling squalor and anarchy till they needed us to intervene in their world war. And we've been in hock and at war ever since.

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Statistics show that for every white or asian caught shoplifting   ten blacks do it and there are ten times more  whites and asians.  


It is criminal to steal a purse. It is daring to steal a fortune. It is a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases
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Whites do not shoplift anywhere near the amount that blacks  do.


The law in its majestic equality, forbids all men to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread - the rich as well as the poor
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Yeah, no shit! I haven't shoplifted since I was a runaway teenager. That's the last time I was that needy. Look, every segment of every society fucks over anybody they can within their own acceptable moral code; rarely outside of that, those we call criminals, the former we call leaders and role models. The moral code changes according to which group proves to be the most adept at fucking everyone else over. Them's the victors who writes the history books and the new law.

Human beings never, ever quit this squbble. Not so long as their are distinguishable groups. And the less there is to go around, the more discriminating we get. But we tend to be secure enough to be relatively civil at it only under the most Egaltarian systems.

Our friends and allies in the Middle East and Europe will soon be subject to forms of intimidation by an Iraqi government bent on dominating the Middle East and its oil reserves,
http://www.sptimes.com/' target='_new'>Project for the New American Century (were they talking about themselves?)

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2005, 11:41:00 AM »
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Statistics show that for every white or asian caught shoplifting   ten blacks do it and there are ten times more  whites and asians.   Less than  3%  of the projects in the inner city are white occupied  and  in the largest cites there are no whites allowed .  whites and asians can be rehabilitated   blacks have not proven that they can  no matter how much free housing they are given.    Whites do not shoplift anywhere near the amount that blacks  do  .   No black grocerys in south central los angeles and in many large citys    because  of  shrinkage .  


That may be so, but you are not contextualizing the problem. You are not taking into account WHY a large percentage of the black population lives in the inner cities or is poor. You are merely assuming it is something inherent in their race or persona, as opposed to the history of their population within this country.

I'm not saying it's ok to shoplift, and I'm not saying that these kids aren't being total thugs, or should get off without any punishment, but to assume that the black population is responsible for its own oppression is putting the cart before the horse. There may be individuals within the black community that help to perpetuate the stereotypes associated with black individuals, but their behavior is more a reaction to their history than something that initiates bigotry overall. Perpetuates, maybe. Initiates, no.

And most importantly, negative assumptions are made against black people all the time who have done nothing wrong at all. Are you to say that some punk who steals crap from a convenience store is somehow responsible for something a non-black does to some other black guy who has done nothing wrong? No. Why? Because an individual is innocent until proven guilty, and that assumption itself indicates racial bias. (Which everyone, by the way, has in this country, because of the history of the United States, and it has nothing to do with how blacks act. The racism preceded any person's negative experience interacting with a black person, and the black community itself experiences internalized racism.)

In addition, class and race are very closely allied in this country, because of the history of the black population as slaves. They are almost always conflated. No other minority in this country came into the new world as slaves, and as such, have had that stigma attached to them, and buried into their collective psyche. However, class is still the ultimate determining factor in terms of what kind of privilege you have. Doubt me? I have just two letters for you: O.J.

Also, I really don't care what the credentials are for this individual who has made this report in terms of your post. He may bring up some very valid points. I am speaking to the fact that YOU in particular have jumped on this issue, because of your previous instance in this forum of taking on the mexican issue. I question your motivation and agenda. It seems to me that you are more the opportunist who is willing to exploit any issue that supports your bias towards people who are not your own race, as opposed to the possible motivations of Dr. Sowell, who seems more interested in changing and critiquing the problems within the black community, because he has interest in self-awareness and empowerment of his own people. (That's not to say that people cannot critique the problems of a race that is not their own, however. They just need to be clear, just like anyone, on what their motivation is to do so.) If you post an article that discusses weaknesses and problems within your own racial community and population, then I might give your other opinions a little more consideration.

And I still maintain that most people are assholes, anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2005, 01:31:00 PM »
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They are almost always conflated. No other minority in this country came into the new world as slaves, and as such, have had that stigma attached to them, and buried into their collective psyche.


That's not true at all. In the early generations of the great waves of immigration, we all were niggers. Papists, they called the Irish Catholics. Ever wonder about the origin of the term "Paddy Waggon"? And this is not a uniquely or even especially American thing. Every new culture that immigrates starts out at the bottom of the pecking order. The difference between black slavery and other immigrant populations in this country is the same as the difference between blacks in this country and blacks in our slave traiding senior parnter, Brazil. In this country, we politicized slavery to the level of civil war. In other countries, it just phased out with the times while they politicized other issues to justify their wars.

You ought to give Sowell a good reading. Of course, you'll never find an author or comedian with whom you agree all of the time. But this guy has some pretty good ideas, backed by accepted but often ignored historical facts.

Oh, and everyone is influenced by societies preconceived notions. When I changed my name from McNulty to Warbis the difference was stark. All of a sudden, I got a job interview just about every time I asked for one and got those jobs on the spot. Funny thing, though. Warbis is an English name; means War Boys and belongs to a well known village or tribe of kick ass mercinaries. But most people in Florida assumed it was Jewish.

Oh well, I consider them punked by their own bigotry. Same for the house I bought. Great place, lots of room, quiet, friendly neighborhood. Got it for a SONG cause Monessen has a "reputation". Ya' know, thar's niggahs thar!  :rofl:

I heard that (and more!) from this little fucker who had just moved into Charleroi. I asked him why he picked that place, he told me "thar ain't no niggahs in Charleroi"  :rofl: That's proabably close to true, too. Lot of black families, but really very few niggers. So, just short of 90 daze later, do you know that nigger's getting evicted for non payment of rent? Now he's living in a trailer w/ his wife and kid in a nearby town that's known to be extremely, violently racist.

So, Merry Christmass and God Bless! There's one less nigger in Charleroi!
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2005, 01:45:00 PM »
you have to ask  each and every liberal  if they would live in a neighborhood that was mostly black .   there are blacks who won't live there and no one ever demands that oprah winfrey  live among blacks  or  even bill clinton  or  even bill cosby   .   america has to learn about blacks by moving into a black neighborhood with PUBLIC HOUSING NEARBY .
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2005, 03:29:00 PM »
Hehehe. Thankfully, the real world isn't segregated into whitebread gated communities and crime ridden, dirty little ghettos.

Our neighborhood is very mixed, but most of the residents inherited their homes from parents or moved from another part of town or the next one. It's the old Russian section of town. This house, built around 1920 or so, has only had two prior owners and the last one spent over 40 years raising a family here.

So our neighbors are the descendants of the occasional ancient Russian, the industrial revolution erra freed slaves, the steel boom Itallians (two varieties, they still keep seperate Sicilian and Italian clubs) and Slovaks, etc. There's even a Croatian club not far from the Nazi section. And I'm not kidding, these homes were built for the steel mill bosses and they're all German, Polish or something close, and quite the stereotypical variety. In that sense, my town is Brigadoon; it's like nothing has changed in 100 years in so many ways.

The public housing projects are mixed too. They're not all black, not by any stretch. In fact, I see more mixed couples around here than anywhere I've ever been. But they're all either refugees from "the city" (mostly Pittsburgh, but coloqually, "the city" might just as well mean New York or Philly or Chicago some other) or they're ppl from around here who have flunked out in some way. There they do have public brawls and robberies, occasionally (very occasionally) shootings, stabbings, drug busts and all that. Every new generation of refugees to any tribe of humans on this planet gets their hazing.

And small towns like this are, first and foremost, tribes unto themselves. The accepted members keep their drugging and brawling activities out of the public light, and they're allowed to do that. The recent immigrants and downwardly mobile are generally not given as much of that sort of consideration.

But we ain't got rampant crime and violence. In fact, we still pump our gas first, then go inside and pay. Lot of locals run credit accounts, too; often grown kids will pay their parents' accounts. Every little thing makes the local afternoon paper, right down to the Magistrate's log and town by town police digests, w/ full names, ages and addresses.

Don't get me wrong, this is not some prejudice free Utopia. Prejudice and race hate are rampant and fairly open around here. If you're looking for it (or even if you're not) you'll find it here. But it's not every damned body! Most people pay attention and judge others based on how they act.

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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
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"you have to ask  each and every liberal  if they would live in a neighborhood that was mostly black .   there are blacks who won't live there and no one ever demands that oprah winfrey  live among blacks  or  even bill clinton  or  even bill cosby   .   america has to learn about blacks by moving into a black neighborhood with PUBLIC HOUSING NEARBY .  "


I'm white and live in a neighborhood that's about 75% Black and things are just fine in these parts.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2005, 03:11:00 AM »
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"you have to ask  each and every liberal  if they would live in a neighborhood that was mostly black .   there are blacks who won't live there and no one ever demands that oprah winfrey  live among blacks  or  even bill clinton  or  even bill cosby   .   america has to learn about blacks by moving into a black neighborhood with PUBLIC HOUSING NEARBY .  "




I'm white and live in a neighborhood that's about 75% Black and things are just fine in these parts."

Yes, and I live in a neighborhood that is 90% latino, which a couple of gangs call their turf. I have lived here for 10 years, and it's a great neighborhood. There are lots of families here, and it's very convenient for me location-wise. The gang violence is almost nil, as well, and things have improved over the years. This neighborhood was definitely a move up from where I lived before, and I have rent control, so there is no way I could even afford to live anywhere else. Which is fine by me, because I'm happy here.

And empathy, (ironic choice of a username) you are still making the mistake I pointed out before. Are you talking about BLACK neighborhoods, or POOR neighborhoods? Once again, you assume that if a neighborhood is black, it is automatically, a. poor, and b. high in crime. Rather, you really only need the "poor" variable to increase the chances of a neighborhood being high in crime, but not always. Trust me, I've lived on skid row before. It was totally mixed-race. It was an extremely depressing neighborhood, with lots of heroin use and strung out hookers. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I had to clean junkie feces out of the apartment doorway. So in this case, the diverse neighborhood was much more high in crime and despair than where I live now, which is a neighborhood which consists primarily of one minority. And YES, I know there are many poor neighborhoods which are high in crime and also primarily black. I'm not stupid.

Of COURSE nobody is going to want to live in a neighborhood which is high crime, regardless of the color of the people living there. Did it ever occur to you that in the high crime neighborhoods and projects which are primarily black, the very residents who live there don't want to live there, either? Nobody chooses to live in a bad neighborhood if they can afford to live in a better one, no matter what their color or political affiliation. Truly, the only people who might deliberately choose to live in a bad neighborhood are the hipster bohemian types who like to go slumming. Or possibly people who lived in that neighborhood before it got bad, and don't want to move because their family has a history there.

Also, I was never actually taking issue with Sowell's article. I was taking issue with empathy's motivations to cite it. Especially since he seems to enjoy taking things out of context to advance his own questionable agenda.

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That's not true at all. In the early generations of the great waves of immigration, we all were niggers. Papists, they called the Irish Catholics. Ever wonder about the origin of the term "Paddy Waggon"? And this is not a uniquely or even especially American thing. Every new culture that immigrates starts out at the bottom of the pecking order. The difference between black slavery and other immigrant populations in this country is the same as the difference between blacks in this country and blacks in our slave traiding senior parnter, Brazil. In this country, we politicized slavery to the level of civil war. In other countries, it just phased out with the times while they politicized other issues to justify their wars.


Actually, this backs up my original point. Many many ethnicities have immigrated to this country and faced oppression, yet eventually managed to improve their status economically. Yet a significant portion of the black population is still having difficulties. I believe it is because their subjectivity and history with this country is different. i.e. they were a slave population at one point, where the others were not. Empathy will most likely argue that it is because there is something inherently wrong with the black race that keeps them from getting their shit together. I argue that their history as slaves brings about additional complications when it comes to internalized racism within the community, that is inherently different from the internalized bigotry other ethnicities in this country faced, who did not have that added baggage of being slave labor at one point. I think that empathy is misinterpeting a lot of what Sowell is saying, because he is using it to make it fit his own bigotry, as opposed to understanding it within the context of internalized racism within the black community. I agree with Dr. Sowell that the blacks are really the only ones who can extricate themselves from their own victimhood, but I also agree that they face an opposition (internal and external) that is unique to the type of racism they deal with, versus what the other ethnicities in this country faced, because the blacks' history is so different from the those others who immigrated here.

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How Blacks are to blame for Racism vs. Blacks
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2005, 04:14:00 AM »
In big cities, many people live in mixed neighborhoods-  my neighborhood in DC, rich people live on the same blocks as poor people.  There are million-dollar historic mansions and rowhouses and crack houses with a block or two of each other.  

And while, of course, I know there are crazy people of all races... it's not the white people that I watch out for when I go outside at night.
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