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Hyde School, The Most Truthful Informative Post I have Seen
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-03 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I agree that the current climate has made it harder to fill a school like Hyde, because the first tier schools are taking the under-achiver that Hyde does so well with and in turn allows your daughter to be admitted, with a committment from your family to give it a go, when in the past you would have been driving back to your shrink trying to figure out what wilderness program or therapy school to send her to to be fixed, while you sit at home, hoping that some schmuck in Utah can fix the damage you did to your kid while you watch digital cable and sip on bottom shelf Vodka."
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Absolutely BRILLIANT post :tup:
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-03 07:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hmmm...
Calling the staff losers...
Maybe you should look at yourself first, after all, your daughter prbably had no shot at getting into a "real" boarding school. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree....."Loser""
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Another great post, I love this anon!! :tup: :tup:
Anonymous:
Hi everyone,
I came across this site because while I was at hyde I had heard of someone making an "anti-hyde" website and they were soon going to get an accounatbility, but I said to myself "as soon as i get out of this place im going to find an anti-hyde website and tell the truth about this place" I wish there were more sites like this and hopefully you guys can keep posting and hope that students and parents cotemplating about visiting hyde will see these sites and not believ everything that the school and faculty have to say about the program. I went to hyde for the 2005 summer challenge, thinking it was some kind of summer camp. boy was i wrong! It was a nightmare to say the least. When I had first been shown a tour of the school (by a student!) The student didn't even mention anything about this 2-4 thing and shadowing, crew etc. I learned for myself over the next 5 wks. I came in being more of an under-achiever I guess than a substance abuser, which most of the students were. All of the staff and students tried to "put me in a box" since I didnt speak much about myself in discovery groups. The whole time I knew what they were trying to do, figure me out and put a label on me, then tell my parents about my problems but putting it so to not to offend anyone and giving them hope if iwere to attend this school, they could "straighten me out" . I tried to get away with telling as little about myself over the next 5 wks and just talking to the kids there. But doing this only made the staff more angry. They took me out of my bed in the middle of nights to "confess" when I was really only witholding information about myself, not anything that I was doing or would do.I was put on 2-4, 5:30's, and shadows. At this point they were puzzled. Since I didnt talk much in discovery groups, the staff was sure that I was a supsicious student that had something to hide, when really all I was trying to do was protect myself. During the last few weeks, I started to get annoyed and desperate. I wasnt getting any sleep and I was blamed for things that I haden't done. When someone had drugs or something was stolen, I was under suspicion. At this point they were puzzled, and I started to confess to things I hadent done just to get the staff off of my back and get some rest. They told my parents on the phone that I was "minupulative, stubborn, and had an attitude problem". My parents were not allowed to talk to me since I was on phone restriction for most of the time, but they knew that something wrong was going on. When my parents came for the last day and we all met in discovery groups, the staff told them everything that wasnt true about me. How I had smoked in the bathroom, how I had stolen things, how i was minupalitive and lied. But they finished off with telling my parents that there was still hope for me, and that deep down I was a good person etc. and could be saved if I attended Hyde school in the fall. My parents were not buying it, and I was saved. Hyde is not like other boarding schools, and its a sticky situation when you only hear good things about the school from the school itself. The sad thing is that I think the kids there feel that if they were to tell the truth about how difficult and exhausting the school is to the parents on a tour or on a visit, etc, there would always be someone there to rat them out and they would get some kind of accountability. Its very cult-like there if you know what I mean, not one person can go astray or else all eyes are on them. Im thankful that I am not going to that school, and I have the utmost sympathy for the kids who are attending now and are having a tough time. Just keep your chin up, and wait until you can attend college! Keep posting!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-03 12:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Hi everyone,
I came across this site because while I was at hyde I had heard of someone making an "anti-hyde" website and they were soon going to get an accounatbility, but I said to myself "as soon as i get out of this place im going to find an anti-hyde website and tell the truth about this place" I wish there were more sites like this and hopefully you guys can keep posting and hope that students and parents cotemplating about visiting hyde will see these sites and not believ everything that the school and faculty have to say about the program. I went to hyde for the 2005 summer challenge, thinking it was some kind of summer camp. boy was i wrong! It was a nightmare to say the least. When I had first been shown a tour of the school (by a student!) The student didn't even mention anything about this 2-4 thing and shadowing, crew etc. I learned for myself over the next 5 wks. I came in being more of an under-achiever I guess than a substance abuser, which most of the students were. All of the staff and students tried to "put me in a box" since I didnt speak much about myself in discovery groups. The whole time I knew what they were trying to do, figure me out and put a label on me, then tell my parents about my problems but putting it so to not to offend anyone and giving them hope if iwere to attend this school, they could "straighten me out" . I tried to get away with telling as little about myself over the next 5 wks and just talking to the kids there. But doing this only made the staff more angry. They took me out of my bed in the middle of nights to "confess" when I was really only witholding information about myself, not anything that I was doing or would do.I was put on 2-4, 5:30's, and shadows. At this point they were puzzled. Since I didnt talk much in discovery groups, the staff was sure that I was a supsicious student that had something to hide, when really all I was trying to do was protect myself. During the last few weeks, I started to get annoyed and desperate. I wasnt getting any sleep and I was blamed for things that I haden't done. When someone had drugs or something was stolen, I was under suspicion. At this point they were puzzled, and I started to confess to things I hadent done just to get the staff off of my back and get some rest. They told my parents on the phone that I was "minupulative, stubborn, and had an attitude problem". My parents were not allowed to talk to me since I was on phone restriction for most of the time, but they knew that something wrong was going on. When my parents came for the last day and we all met in discovery groups, the staff told them everything that wasnt true about me. How I had smoked in the bathroom, how I had stolen things, how i was minupalitive and lied. But they finished off with telling my parents that there was still hope for me, and that deep down I was a good person etc. and could be saved if I attended Hyde school in the fall. My parents were not buying it, and I was saved. Hyde is not like other boarding schools, and its a sticky situation when you only hear good things about the school from the school itself. The sad thing is that I think the kids there feel that if they were to tell the truth about how difficult and exhausting the school is to the parents on a tour or on a visit, etc, there would always be someone there to rat them out and they would get some kind of accountability. Its very cult-like there if you know what I mean, not one person can go astray or else all eyes are on them. Im thankful that I am not going to that school, and I have the utmost sympathy for the kids who are attending now and are having a tough time. Just keep your chin up, and wait until you can attend college! Keep posting!"
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Your experience during summer challenge is incredibly similar to what I saw during my full year at Hyde. And what you describe is pretty mild compared to what I saw during the rest of the year. Summer challenge is a much "lighter" experience than the regular year. During the regular year I saw what you saw PLUS a boatload of more extreme things. I saw staff yell at kids, call them names, and embarrass kids in public. I sat in family seminars and saw parents yelling at their kids, kids yelling at their parents, parents saying awful things to other parents, staff saying awful things to parents, you name it. There are a few good people at Hyde, but most of the people I met have real serious problems and they're not getting the right help there. There are so many Hyde students with serious mental and emotional issues, and I never met anybody on staff who could provide counseling. Hyde doesn't believe in counseling, which is amazing to me since it admits so many kids who have serious issues.
Thank you for telling people what it's like at Hyde. Where did you go after leaving? I hope it worked out.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-03 08:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I agree that the current climate has made it harder to fill a school like Hyde, because the first tier schools are taking the under-achiver that Hyde does so well with . . ."
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I think you're absolutely right about the fact that Hyde is having a harder time enrolling students because more traditional boarding schools are taking the kinds of kids that used to go to Hyde. I also think Hyde's deteriorating reputation is affecting enrollments. Based on my time at Hyde it seems that the school is taking many kids it can't serve effectively. I'm amazed at the number of Hyde students with real significant psychiatric issues and substance abuse issues. As far as I know, the school doesn't have anybody on staff to provide mental health counseling, and they have the part-time guy come in to do substance abuse groups. That sounds like a recipe for disaster, with so many kids who need counseling and no real counseling program.
I really disagree with your statement that Hyde does so well "with the under-achiever." That's not what I've seen. Hyde may be ok with the kid who underachieves and doesn't have much more than an "attitude" problem. But as far as I can tell there are SO MANY kids at Hyde who have so many more problems, and the school does a terrible job with those kids. I've seen so many kids fall apart at Hyde, and so many of these have serious mental health problems.
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