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« Reply #75 on: December 09, 2005, 12:18:00 PM »
no not connie. glad to hear about your brother. how have you been? where in pa do you live? i understand the anger but i cant do anything about that part of this equation. i can apologize, but as you are certainly aware, i thought i was being "caring" at the time. anyway, i am sorry. and your folks? have to go for a few hours but hopefully we can talk or say hi. anyway i have a "str8" based solution for your tape deck issue. go to walmart and stand in line to return the item, than go into a fake epileptic seizure and throw it and break it, and start screaming about corporate profits. you will get a new tape deck.
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« Reply #76 on: December 09, 2005, 12:27:00 PM »
LOL...thats great! I vote fot the seizure scam Pirate...all the way, forget about morality, thats just damn funny!


 :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #77 on: December 09, 2005, 12:41:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-09 08:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"carmel, i really appreciated what you said. any attempts at making fun of what we went through ( of course i went through the program and my own horrifics) is the way that i deal with any emotions. i was not a tormentor of anybody and the timk incident happened in the guys infirmary and involved a a 26 yr old withdrawl, and i reported it to "higher staff".  i have been through various different types of counseling over the years to deal with what i went through, but not recently, ande when i saw all of the raw emotions on this site, and all of the questions i was zapped immediatly back to the time period and all i can say is wow. i would never consider people's emotions or histories a joke and i apologize if you took it that way. sarcastically personal about everyhting( prob bc of 5515). i will stay away from this site if you think i should. tim k was not the only cocksucker. there were many. i do not believe i was one, but maybe i am still brainwashed and need to read more on the subject. all of you can tell me to go away and i will. hopefully , since you were there too you can understand my immediate fascination with this upon googling myself. "


b.s. faggot, you are a liar.
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« Reply #78 on: December 09, 2005, 12:46:00 PM »
::troll::
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« Reply #79 on: December 09, 2005, 12:47:00 PM »
I cannot believe all you suckers motivating around the old staff person. Fucking idiots. "No, Wally! Stay! We love you! We need a staff person around here!"

"Yeah Wally, we love you, please don't go!"
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« Reply #80 on: December 09, 2005, 12:49:00 PM »
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" ::troll:: "


No Carmel, not a troll. Someone who knows this person is a sham, an abusive old staff, a liar, a cocksucker and a child abuser.
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« Reply #81 on: December 09, 2005, 12:51:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-09 08:46:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:

"God dude, I don't want you to go away.  Please stick around so we can get down to some understanding.  I know that you were brainwashed by straight.  There were things I wanted to say to you way back when but I had no voice at the time.  Fuck.  You have every right to be on this board.  You have survived Str8 too.  You were my oldcomer until i escaped from your house that very dark night.  



It's like I want to be angry at you because in a way you represent that faceless institution to me. Aww... FUCK!



Do you remember how you confronted me when they brought me back into group ??"


How can you still be such a sucker? Did you want to hug all the child abusers that fucked you over? Fuckin get some balls already. God damn.
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« Reply #82 on: December 09, 2005, 12:55:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-08 11:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I never did anything personally to anyone that i have feelings about."


Hey guys, he said it, not me. And you call me a troll. Carmel, think before you post. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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« Reply #83 on: December 09, 2005, 12:58:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-08 11:38:00, Carmel wrote:

"In reality we were all contributing to what happened there whether we were staff or clients.  

Just by the fact that I complied with having to hold people down because I would be considered dishonest otherwise makes me a culprit in some ways.  
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Carmel, you idiot, you were a child. This guy was PAID STAFF. He loved Straight so much he stuck around to keep it going! He came back when they closed it to collect memorabilia and have one last pretend rap.
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« Reply #84 on: December 09, 2005, 12:59:00 PM »
W-

Fuck!  I accept your apology and you know what it's not you and I who should even have differences.  It's the God Damned people that played us against each other that we should focus our anger-derived energy on.  

I'm sorry too W.  Sorry that our society and our culture are so fucked up as to generate these fucked up mind rape torture chambers.  They want to conquer us by dividing us from each other and ourselves.

I guess I'm not even as angry at you as I am with just the whole thing.  I am not really doin' so well.  I have a lot of social problems due to my nearly 2 year incarceration in Str8.  You know ??  Just when I should have been finding my place in the world, as a young man with a future I was hauled off to a secret prison and brainwashed.  I've never recovered.  I can't keep a job or go to school.  I freak out in institutional settings.  I don't trust anyone.  I am very uncomfortable around people.  I can't even relax enough with the women i am in bed with to ever fall asleep next to them.  My anxiety keeps me in a prison yet.  I'm not completely miserable or nothin', I mean I think I'm a nice guy 'n' all, 'n' I don't walk around completely bitter and cynical like I used to but I carry some nasty scars and have some un-healed wounds. Dig ??

Stick around Man, I think we can work this out.  You are my brother after all.  Solidarity!
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« Reply #85 on: December 09, 2005, 01:01:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-08 11:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"i also in the last 5 min spoke with another old staff memeber from the 80's."
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« Reply #86 on: December 09, 2005, 01:05:00 PM »
T- i respect you a lot for posting this. I sent you a private message and am sorry that you have to endure being civil to me.
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« Reply #87 on: December 09, 2005, 01:06:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-09 08:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"carmel, i really appreciated what you said. any attempts at making fun of what we went through ( of course i went through the program and my own horrifics) is the way that i deal with any emotions. i was not a tormentor of anybody and the timk incident happened in the guys infirmary and involved a a 26 yr old withdrawl, and i reported it to "higher staff".  i have been through various different types of counseling over the years to deal with what i went through, but not recently, ande when i saw all of the raw emotions on this site, and all of the questions i was zapped immediatly back to the time period and all i can say is wow. i would never consider people's emotions or histories a joke and i apologize if you took it that way. sarcastically personal about everyhting( prob bc of 5515). i will stay away from this site if you think i should. tim k was not the only cocksucker. there were many. i do not believe i was one, but maybe i am still brainwashed and need to read more on the subject. all of you can tell me to go away and i will. hopefully , since you were there too you can understand my immediate fascination with this upon googling myself. "


Don't leave.  I was a staff member in Sarasota and initially I got the same treatment here.  At first I was resentful at some of the attacks because I believe and still believe that I genuinely helped people while I was there and had no ill-intent in my heart.  I was much younger that almost anyone at the time perhaps this sheltered me in some ways as has been suggested by some here.  I did not see the things that have been described here, but I do believe they happened at a later time.  I am one who actually believes I was helped by Straight, again an idea that does not sit well here, but it is how I feel.  All that being said, I think it is important for me to check in from time to time at this website and read about others experiences and understand that things went terribly wrong with the straight concept.  The people here are dealing with the past in what ever way they can including me.  I say, do not doubt your feelings about what you did at straight.  Don't be swayed by the opinions thrown your way here. You know in your heart if you mistreated people.  Right or wrong, some people are rightfully bitter and any former staff will get the brunt of their venting.  This site has opened my eyes to a world that I was a part of and things never knew about.  So, in that way it has helped me to understand people here more.
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« Reply #88 on: December 09, 2005, 01:14:00 PM »
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« Reply #89 on: December 09, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-09 08:46:00, starry-eyed pirate wrote:


"God dude, I don't want you to go away.  Please stick around so we can get down to some understanding.  I know that you were brainwashed by straight.  There were things I wanted to say to you way back when but I had no voice at the time.  Fuck.  You have every right to be on this board.  You have survived Str8 too.  You were my oldcomer until i escaped from your house that very dark night.  





It's like I want to be angry at you because in a way you represent that faceless institution to me. Aww... FUCK!





Do you remember how you confronted me when they brought me back into group ??"




How can you still be such a sucker? Did you want to hug all the child abusers that fucked you over? Fuckin get some balls already. God damn."


Fuck you. I am dealin' with this cat the way I see fit.
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