My son is currently at Aspen Ranch

[RMA Survivor]

This is the first link I was able to find to an article about Richard Armstrong raping Twila Stevenson.  

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een01.html

[Ursus]

A guy hired to be a cook at my former school is now running his own school.  Another who was hired from the nearby town to work as a handyman on campus is also now running his own school and he raped a co-worker who had also worked at my school.  These people are not only lacking in qualifications to run any program or school, many have committed serious crimes in their past.  But I guess that just means they are qualified because they too have been messed up...

RMA that was actually a pretty good post (and convincing).  But your last paragraph here plunged you into the depths of the BS meter.  If you can manage to provide a link to these two people who are running programs and links to the articles indicating they rape people we would appreciate it.

Note:  Its funny how these types of post get through here so easily as credible, but when some one says something positive about a program they are hounded as a troll or thought of as being paid by the industry.

 I am amazed that I am the only one here that is neutral enough to see this.  If this were reversed fornits would light up like a cheap carnival.

Here's an article noting Richard Armstrong's conviction for rape. Why, it even mention Lon's wife, Denise Woodbury, as the Boundary County Prosecutor involved...

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FEDERAL JURY SIDES WITH WOMAN IN RAPE LAWSUIT
EMPLOYER ORDERED TO PAY $164,595; COUNTY HASN'T FILED CRIMINAL CHARGES

Section: THE HANDLE
Page: B1

Author: By Susan Drumheller Staff writer
Illustration: Color Photo
Caption: Armstrong

An "intervention specialist" who delivers kids to private behavioral schools and camps in North Idaho was ordered by a federal jury to pay a former employee $164,595 for allegedly drugging and raping her.

Twila Stephenson filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court against Richard Armstrong of Bonners Ferry, Idaho, in November 1996, accusing him of slipping drugs into her drinks, then raping her.

Armstrong runs a company called Boundary Lines, which specializes in transporting teenagers from their homes to private schools, such as the Rocky Mountain Academy.

Stephenson worked for Armstrong as a counselor from 1993 until April 1996.

The jury deliberated for four hours after a four-day trial in Coeur d'Alene.

Jury members determined that Armstrong raped Stephenson while she was unconscious, that he caused herto be unconscious and that the conduct was outrageous.

"We were surprised by the verdict," said Stanton Rines, Armstrong's attorney.

The evidence included two taped confessions, said Craig Mosman, Stephenson's attorney.

"Somebody who commits those acts ought to be in prison," Mosman said.

Boundary County officials never charged Armstrong, despite the fact that Mosman and Stephenson filed a report with police and offered to provide evidence, Mosman said.

Mosman said he never discussed the case with Boundary County Prosecutor Denise Woodbury, who was not available for comment Friday.

Stephenson has left the state and now lives and works in New Mexico, Mosman said.

She claimed she was fired after the alleged rape when she confronted Armstrong about crushing sleeping pills into her drink after she refused to have sex with him.


All content © 1999 SPOKESMAN-REVIEW.

[Ursus]

And here's a thread about rapist Richard Armstrong's program, Homelines:

HOMELINES - Richard Armstrong
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28340[/list]

[RMA Survivor]

You ruined my master plan.  I was hoping the low life who questioned my statements would read the weaker link that made Armstrong out to be kind of innocent first... And then make some dumb comment about that.  Then I would have used that link and the fact the prosecutor is Lon Woodbury's District Attorney wife to shut him down.  But it is good to know there is another brilliant mind out there.  But I would have had him!  Him and his weak arguments.

[Whooter]

Wow, I have been reading along here and you guys really perk up over this stuff!!  I can see why you are so eager to paint everyone as being evil.  You just view the whole industry through these stories.  This shit happens folks.  We have public school steachers who are raping kids and then moving to other districts... but not all teachers are rapists.  but with programs you cant seem to get past the evil people that have worked there..... the boogey men own you.  The rest of us know we need to keep our guard up but we dont need to give up on life.

[Ursus]

You ruined my master plan.  I was hoping the low life who questioned my statements would read the weaker link that made Armstrong out to be kind of innocent first... And then make some dumb comment about that.  Then I would have used that link and the fact the prosecutor is Lon Woodbury's District Attorney wife to shut him down.  But it is good to know there is another brilliant mind out there.  But I would have had him!  Him and his weak arguments.

I am so sorry! Ya should've PM'd me right pronto!  :seg:

But the truth of the matter is, Whooter is probably well aware of that article already. He was bluffing you, hoping you couldn't furnish proof in a timely fashion ... all the while knowing it was out there.

This is just one of the many ways he attempts to discredit program-related abuse that is discussed on fornits. Too bad certain folk were watching ... vigilantly!  

[Ursus]

Wow, I have been reading along here and you guys really perk up over this stuff!!  I can see why you are so eager to paint everyone as being evil.  You just view the whole industry through these stories.  This shit happens folks.  We have public school steachers who are raping kids and then moving to other districts... but not all teachers are rapists.  but with programs you cant seem to get past the evil people that have worked there..... the boogey men own you.  The rest of us know we need to keep our guard up but we dont need to give up on life.

HA HA! So predictable it's almost endearing! :rofl:  :rofl:

After you finish roundly trouncing his BS premises, he responds with, "Whoa! Didn't mean to make you work that hard!" "Wow, you really must have spent a lot of time on that post!" "Guess I really hit a nerve there, huh!"

[RMA Survivor]

You attempt to paint everyone here as pathetic only goes to show that you like to spend your pathetic life cheer leading for something you clearly know so little about.  You have so little to say, but seem to take thousands of posts to get it across.  We get it, you are a follower, not a leader, with nothing original to contribute here.  Why don't you move on, since you clearly have nothing constructive to provide here?  You are so transparent and you lack depth.  You make hollow arguments with no substance.  And the thousands of other posters here see that even if you do not.  We laugh at you because you seem to need the attention.  You are the patient.  We are the non-therapists.

[Whooter]

Wow, I have been reading along here and you guys really perk up over this stuff!!  I can see why you are so eager to paint everyone as being evil.  You just view the whole industry through these stories.  This shit happens folks.  We have public school steachers who are raping kids and then moving to other districts... but not all teachers are rapists.  but with programs you cant seem to get past the evil people that have worked there..... the boogey men own you.  The rest of us know we need to keep our guard up but we dont need to give up on life.

HA HA! So predictable it's almost endearing! :rofl:  :rofl:

After you finish roundly trouncing his BS premises, he responds with, "Whoa! Didn't mean to make you work that hard!" "Wow, you really must have spent a lot of time on that post!" "Guess I really hit a nerve there, huh!"

Thats Funny Ursus, You know me so well!!  Sorry I was so obvious.  I am getting tired I think.

[RMA Survivor]

You are tiresome, not tired.  We will work on the proper context for word usage this week.  I am still feeling charitable so I will help you as best I can.  But you need to be willing to commit yourself.  Later we might do some simple speech and debate exercises, though I think those are probably a little beyond your abilities right now, but perhaps we can push you a little, see how you do.

[Troll Control]

QFT.  Dishonest ASR parent posing as an AR graduate.  This is called "trolling" and "perpetrating fraud."

I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! The substance abuse counselor was my primary therapist! I had a lot of problems going there, personal as well as a fucked up family. I've now ben home for 3 months and am doing great. I haven't relapsed or really even considered it.

Aspen was a great place! We didn't get pizza from the local place once a week, but we did get it on parent week and for special occasions. The food wasn't great but it was certainly bearable (and I'm picky!). The staff was AWESOME (most anyways), they were very caring and devoted. There have been MANY changes in staff and rules in the past 6 months there as well, so check it out! Sure I had my rough times, everyone does! I would defenitely recommend it if you're kids having a rough time, but be sure to check it out before to see if you think your kid would be a good fit.

And to whoever posted about seeing kids doing pull-ups with a man with a radio....he was the personal trainer! I was in Personal Training for over a year there and it helped a lot! I've never heard a complaint about PT, kids can sign up for an extra fee through a past navy seal who really pushes you hard! And there's a LONG waiting list.

Thanks, and please no one tell me I'm lying....when I left I was 2nd in seniority out of everyone there at the time! And to those parents who have kids there now...I wouldn't doubt if I knew them!

[Troll Control]

QFT.  Same dishonest ASR parent now posing as parent of an AR kid whose "life was saved!" by the program.  More lying.  More fraud.  What drives whackos like this to spend years on a survivor site making up phony testimonies for the favorite abusive shitpits?  It's a sickness, IMO.

the important thing is the place has...without a single doubt...saved our daughter's life. TO sum up some of the other things: She's graduating from high school a year EARLY, and home-district had her do testing (plus she had a great SAT score) so it's no fluke, and she gets a DUAL diploma from Utah and our home state. She's happy, healthy - recently had another home visit that was totally without issues. She has direction in her life, and although she will have on going therapy for some time due to the trauma that triggered her particular problems, she understands it and is dealing with it from a healthy perspective.

A side benefit is she already has a part-time job (while she goes to college) working for a horse trainer...which is good, because the downside (if you can call it that) is she/we are in the process of buying a horse! But, since she's no looking into equine-related veterinary medicine, that's really a benefit.

I'm truly sorry a lot of you just do not understand the program, but it seems you're just going off the slanted "Brat Camp" stories, and piling on based on crap posted by people with NO facts, who've never been there, and have never spoken to a student or parent who has.

[Joel]

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

[Anne Bonney]

I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! The substance abuse counselor was my primary therapist! I had a lot of problems going there, personal as well as a fucked up family. I've now ben home for 3 months and am doing great. I haven't relapsed or really even considered it.

Aspen was a great place! We didn't get pizza from the local place once a week, but we did get it on parent week and for special occasions. The food wasn't great but it was certainly bearable (and I'm picky!). The staff was AWESOME (most anyways), they were very caring and devoted. There have been MANY changes in staff and rules in the past 6 months there as well, so check it out! Sure I had my rough times, everyone does! I would defenitely recommend it if you're kids having a rough time, but be sure to check it out before to see if you think your kid would be a good fit.

And to whoever posted about seeing kids doing pull-ups with a man with a radio....he was the personal trainer! I was in Personal Training for over a year there and it helped a lot! I've never heard a complaint about PT, kids can sign up for an extra fee through a past navy seal who really pushes you hard! And there's a LONG waiting list.

Thanks, and please no one tell me I'm lying....when I left I was 2nd in seniority out of everyone there at the time! And to those parents who have kids there now...I wouldn't doubt if I knew them!

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Whooter......YOU'RE LYING.

[Whooter]

I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! The substance abuse counselor was my primary therapist! I had a lot of problems going there, personal as well as a fucked up family. I've now ben home for 3 months and am doing great. I haven't relapsed or really even considered it.

Aspen was a great place! We didn't get pizza from the local place once a week, but we did get it on parent week and for special occasions. The food wasn't great but it was certainly bearable (and I'm picky!). The staff was AWESOME (most anyways), they were very caring and devoted. There have been MANY changes in staff and rules in the past 6 months there as well, so check it out! Sure I had my rough times, everyone does! I would defenitely recommend it if you're kids having a rough time, but be sure to check it out before to see if you think your kid would be a good fit.

And to whoever posted about seeing kids doing pull-ups with a man with a radio....he was the personal trainer! I was in Personal Training for over a year there and it helped a lot! I've never heard a complaint about PT, kids can sign up for an extra fee through a past navy seal who really pushes you hard! And there's a LONG waiting list.

Thanks, and please no one tell me I'm lying....when I left I was 2nd in seniority out of everyone there at the time! And to those parents who have kids there now...I wouldn't doubt if I knew them!

 :beat:  :beat:  :beat:  :beat:


Whooter......YOU'RE LYING.

I plucked these from the "Aspen Site" or another Aspen forum on fornits.



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