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Offline Aunt Shelly

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« Reply #1005 on: March 07, 2006, 06:14:00 PM »
All the negative things were found out after he was started in the program and doing well with it.
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« Reply #1006 on: March 07, 2006, 06:15:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-07 15:13:00, Aunt Shelly wrote:

"If you read back to earlier posts, they were really in fear for his life.  Having him removed from the situation was what they felt remained left.  "


Yet when they were made aware of the situation there, they did nothing and fought even harder for him to remain there.

Sad.  Hope he can forgive them one day.
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« Reply #1007 on: March 07, 2006, 06:17:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-07 15:14:00, Aunt Shelly wrote:

"All the negative things were found out after he was started in the program and doing well with it.  "


So, no matter that this program has been proven to be abusive.  No matter that at least one kid died while in their custody, no matter that they have a fondness for locking kids up in tiny little holes...as long as he's walking and talking like a good little boy he's "doing well".
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« Reply #1008 on: March 07, 2006, 07:23:00 PM »
No matter what is said there will be no understanding between the people here.  Alex is home and safe.  That is all that matters.
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« Reply #1009 on: March 07, 2006, 07:36:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-07 16:23:00, Aunt Shelly wrote:

"No matter what is said there will be no understanding between the people here.  Alex is home and safe.  That is all that matters."


Yeah, well that and the broken trust between he and his parents.  Before you start in on how he broke the trust....he's a kid.  That's expected.  It's not of parents, at least not to this degree.
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« Reply #1010 on: March 07, 2006, 07:53:00 PM »
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That has to shadow the whole rest of your life and how you think."


No, not really. It just adds dimension and color to how I view shady purveyors of quack therapy; most especially the LGA variety.

I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.  I'm certainly not!  But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!  
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« Reply #1011 on: March 07, 2006, 07:58:00 PM »
Hey guys, guess what? You're going to be so thrilled! Charles Manson is out on parole and he's opening a sweat lodge/spiritual healing retreat up in the Sierra Nevada! Any takers? C'mon! It's been years, decades since he's fucked with anybody. And he's not calling it the Family, so it can't be like that cult he had going back then, can it?

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The place doesn't matter. Even if they had changed the name of the whole compound, not just that one little shack. It's the same PEOPLE.

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
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« Reply #1012 on: March 07, 2006, 09:33:00 PM »
Not sure if this is important or not, but the Hobitt is now called "Intervention".. :smile:
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« Reply #1013 on: March 07, 2006, 09:37:00 PM »
Is it any different?  Why the name change?
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« Reply #1014 on: March 07, 2006, 11:24:00 PM »
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"Is it any different?  Why the name change?"


No, it's most probably the same old shit. The name doesn't matter. In Casa, they called it R&R. In TB, they call it OP. In SCL, the official name was "Special Needs Room", and now it's "intervention" ("hobbit" is a slang term used by the prisoners). It doesn't matter. It's all the same thing.
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« Reply #1015 on: March 07, 2006, 11:29:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-07 18:37:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Is it any different?  Why the name change?"




No, it's most probably the same old shit. The name doesn't matter. In Casa, they called it R&R. In TB, they call it OP. In SCL, the official name was "Special Needs Room", and now it's "intervention" ("hobbit" is a slang term used by the prisoners). It doesn't matter. It's all the same thing. "


Yeah, I know.  I was just wondering what they're saying the difference is, how they're trying to pass if off and explain it away to parents now.
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« Reply #1016 on: March 08, 2006, 12:18:00 AM »
In Straight it was the Timeout Room or TR, in Elan it was the corner (litterally, they'd sit w/ their faces in the corner for hours or days)... I think it may have been the Roloff ones that called it the quiet room...

Same shit, different dressing. Even a pickle on the side won't help.

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« Reply #1017 on: March 08, 2006, 09:12:00 AM »
Question:  Is he a child who is expected to make mistakes or is he an adult who should be able to make his own choices?  You can't have it both ways.  The aunts are right in that respect that certain things have never been answered here.  Lets see if this question is swiped under the rug and not acknowledged.
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« Reply #1018 on: March 08, 2006, 11:40:00 AM »
Bullshit! You can have it both ways. Think about it....he's on the verge of turning 18.......... 18 isn't some automatic age where POOF you know it all! The older you get, the more life experience you have, the more that is expected from you.

The answer to your question, he is a child, that is quickly becoming an adult. He should be able to make his own choices, and nobody is perfect, and we ALL make mistakes!!!! So, he is expected to make a few mistakes along the way. The most important thing when someone makes a mistake............did you learn from it? If you are making the same mistake over, and over, and over..........then something is wrong?!! But, most of us learn from our mistakes.

Who's asking this question? It sounds like an angry parent question!!!!!
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« Reply #1019 on: March 08, 2006, 11:44:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-08 06:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Question:  Is he a child who is expected to make mistakes or is he an adult who should be able to make his own choices?  You can't have it both ways.  The aunts are right in that respect that certain things have never been answered here.  Lets see if this question is swiped under the rug and not acknowledged."


It's not a black and white issue.  At all.  That right there is how the majority of these places view things w/r to kids.  It's either this way or that way.  That's not real life.  He's both.  In some ways he's immature and immature behavior is to be expected, but that doesn't mean he gives up the right to have a say in his own "treatment" and what ultimately happens to him.  Christ, kind of barbaric if you ask me.
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