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Offline Aunt Shelly

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« Reply #615 on: January 16, 2006, 05:40:00 PM »
Also, he wont have to escape at age 18.  He will be welcomed home when he is ready.
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« Reply #616 on: January 16, 2006, 07:01:00 PM »
Ashley,  I am available to talk anytime.  You or your mom can get my # from Aunt Pam.
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« Reply #617 on: January 16, 2006, 07:10:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-16 14:20:00, AtomicAnt wrote:

"I doubt Alex will leaving WWASPS anytime soon. In spite of all the negative information about the program posted here and acknowledged by family members, he is still there.



The excuse is that all the other alternatives are 'not what they seem?' But, it seems to me anything would be better, including just bringing the boy home, than keeping him in SCL.



We are now hearing about how well he is doing there. So, I just have the gut feeling...



My guess is that he is currently in Jamaica to avoid his escape at age 18.



But then again, I am a pessimist."



Atomic, how can you know? You have no experience of scl. Realistically, how could you know what's best for a kid you never met, who is in a place you've never seen? I respect most of your posts because they show some thought, but this one doesn't really seem that way.
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« Reply #618 on: January 16, 2006, 07:57:00 PM »
I never saw a moore -
I never saw the sea -
yet I know how the heather looks -
and what a wave must be. . .

SCL can be known by knowing what it is - a WWASP program. This makes it knowable to anyone who knows anything about wwasps. A wwasp program, is a wwasp program.

If the kid is in a wwasp program, then the truth is, the parents have no idea how he is. They are accepting the assurances of staff that he is fine - but they do not know. They can't know. And that is most intentionally done - b/c if they did actually know - they'd surely pull him.

But they can't really say they don't know, can they?
What are these parents going to say to defend leaving him there? They can't say they weren't told. It's all right here - more or less, forever.
They can lock him away for a long time - but not forever.
Someday, he'll know exactly what they knew and when.

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« Reply #619 on: January 16, 2006, 07:59:00 PM »
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Atomic, how can you know? You have no experience of scl. Realistically, how could you know what's best for a kid you never met, who is in a place you've never seen?


One might legitimately ask the same of any edocn or troubled parent who haunts these fora.

When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.
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« Reply #620 on: January 16, 2006, 10:57:00 PM »
Well, once again, the tables were turned and the tablecloth was pulled from beneath all of us.  Aunt Pam and Shelly, thank you so, very much for everything you've been doing for Alex and I.  For actually trying to make sense of this whole chaotic mess.  I will probably be giving either of you a call in the near future, exams are this week and this just adds to the stress.
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« Reply #621 on: January 17, 2006, 07:54:00 AM »
Ashley or Leslie please checks your email.
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« Reply #622 on: January 17, 2006, 08:47:00 AM »
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"Ashley or Leslie please checks your email.

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I sent you an email with address.  Thanks.
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« Reply #623 on: January 17, 2006, 10:52:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-16 16:57:00, BuzzKill wrote:

"I never saw a moore -

I never saw the sea -

yet I know how the heather looks -

and what a wave must be. . .



SCL can be known by knowing what it is - a WWASP program. This makes it knowable to anyone who knows anything about wwasps. A wwasp program, is a wwasp program.



If the kid is in a wwasp program, then the truth is, the parents have no idea how he is. They are accepting the assurances of staff that he is fine - but they do not know. They can't know. And that is most intentionally done - b/c if they did actually know - they'd surely pull him.



But they can't really say they don't know, can they?

What are these parents going to say to defend leaving him there? They can't say they weren't told. It's all right here - more or less, forever.

They can lock him away for a long time - but not forever.

Someday, he'll know exactly what they knew and when.



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Geez, buzz, Emily Dickinson must be rolling over in her grave at the misquote, lack of citation, misspelling (Moore was an irish poet, goofy; a moor is a geographical feature)and your spurious attempt to use her poetry for something as dumb as this argument. Emily was referring to the power of her imagination, which is maybe appropriate after all, since imaginary things comprise the sum of evidence against scl.


Sez you that all wwasps programs are alike, but they are neither owned nor operated by the same people. I suppose all the schools that are accredited look exactly alike, too? Wwasps is an association, not a boogeyman.

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« Reply #624 on: January 17, 2006, 10:59:00 AM »
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Sez you that all wwasps programs are alike, but they are neither owned nor operated by the same people.

Basically, they are owned and operated by either members of the same family, or they're not associated with WWASPS on paper.  Same tactic that Straight used way back when.  The song remains the same.

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Wwasps is an association, not a boogeyman.


It is for many, many kids out there who have been run through any of their little mind-rape mills.

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« Reply #625 on: January 17, 2006, 11:50:00 AM »
Anyone out there that has the time, energy, and knowledge of the WWASP family tree to edjucate fool?
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« Reply #626 on: January 17, 2006, 11:52:00 AM »
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Sez you that all wwasps programs are alike, but they are neither owned nor operated by the same people. I suppose all the schools that are accredited look exactly alike, too? Wwasps is an association, not a boogeyman.



 :roll: "


This is the moron I am talking about btw.
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« Reply #627 on: January 17, 2006, 11:59:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-17 08:50:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"Anyone out there that has the time, energy, and knowledge of the WWASP family tree to edjucate fool?



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ISAC's WWASPS Information Page has some information on relationships.
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« Reply #628 on: January 17, 2006, 12:06:00 PM »
Oh yeah, and btw....when you have years and years of pissing people off, and the threat of legal action, you have to become creative in hiding your affiliation.

Whatever!!!! I'm just a little upset by these comments!??  :sad:
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« Reply #629 on: January 17, 2006, 12:10:00 PM »
Understandable CCM.  It still gets to me that places like SAFE, KHK, Pathways etc. operate to this day.  When enough bad publicity hits the press they change names, drop affiliations etc. but its all done on paper.  Hell, Straight closed down one day and opened up the same day in the same building with the same staff but with the name SAFE under the protection of a "foundation".  But.....that's why we're[/b] here.  To make sure that little things like that don't go unnoticed.  :wave:

The disrespect for the possession laws fosters a disrespect for laws and the system in general... On top of this is the distinct impression among the youth that some police may use the marihuana laws to arrest people they don't like for other reasons, whether it be their politics, their hair style or their ethnic background.
                                                                     
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