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« Reply #1230 on: April 12, 2006, 09:41:00 PM »
I cut & pasted this, written by Kelly, the one who started "Wwasp not Anti-Wwasp" group on Myspace.  Yes, the group has 28 members, but Sarah and many others are just there in amazement that some delusional people are reveling in their abuses, not there to sing the program's praises.


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 Posted:  Apr 11, 2006 8:15 AM
   
Ok, so no one is posting anything anymore so let's see if we can get something started. Tell us about an experience that happenend to you in the program that sucked back then but you find it funny now.


Mine would be, one time all of us upper-level girls were caught laughing at the upper-levels boys because they were struggling to push a grill up the hill at SCL, so Chaffin made us get lotion from the store and wash and massage there feet. Yuck! "
 

Not sure what I should say.....good times Kelly?  Perhaps she has a foot fetish and found this disgusting, humiliating, dirty activity to be a turn on?  Does she not consider that to be abusive?  When I was in school they couldn't force us to wash and massage boys with lotion.

Everyone who claims to be pro-WWASP is just totally in denial and refuses to acknowledge degradation and humiliation for what it was.  Including Kelly, the founder of the WWASP not Anti-Wwasp Myspace group.  Come on Kelly, open your eyes or at least start seeing a qualified therapist.
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« Reply #1231 on: April 12, 2006, 09:50:00 PM »
Also from Myspace on the Tranquility Bay group site, written by Megan, Kelly's friend and co-thinker who is another member of "WWASP not Anti-WWASP" Myspace Group:

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Because I believe that the ends was greater than the means.... I scooped shit out of an overflowing toilet and when I wrote home about it my case rep told my parents that I was lying..I remember the soup that made my entire family shit their brains out every Thursday night... I showered in the cold... I have felt the frustration that you still seem to feel.. But in the end it was worth it to me.. I met great people and I learned that no matter what I could make it in this world... That is what is important to me"

Again, she acknowledges that her caseworker falsely told her parents that she was lying, she lived with inhumane conditions, etc.  Like the others, she says she made great friends.  I think we all agree on that point.  She feels she is stronger as a result of having lived through the abuse, which is fine, but why on earth is she glorifying it and recommending it to the world for future generations????

I guess we can conclude that "WWASP not Anti-WWASP" means "Programmed not Anti-Programmed".  Pray for these girls.
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« Reply #1232 on: April 18, 2006, 07:27:00 PM »
Lots of good info here.

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« Reply #1233 on: April 18, 2006, 07:51:00 PM »
Wow that's fascinating. I really hope I can get to do some in depth interviews with some pro-wwasps students
Could anon please give me the details for that group.
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« Reply #1234 on: April 18, 2006, 07:55:00 PM »
just go to myspace and search for wwasp not anti-wwasp.
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« Reply #1235 on: April 18, 2006, 08:11:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=44&4

This thread has links to all the threads, including the pro-wwasp group. So far they have something like 30 members. The other WWASP groups have well over a 1000 so you shouldn't have a hard time finding opinions.
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« Reply #1236 on: April 19, 2006, 05:00:00 AM »
This is really really fascinating. I'm looking at possible ways of securing interviews but I don't think any of them will talk to me.
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« Reply #1237 on: April 19, 2006, 06:03:00 AM »
I was hoping my easy charm and rugged good looks would win them over.
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« Reply #1238 on: April 19, 2006, 10:14:00 AM »
If I were you, I would create a profile, and post your pictures like everyone else. The only way they will even talk to you is if you play by their rules.

Good luck!
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« Reply #1239 on: April 19, 2006, 03:20:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-19 03:03:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

"I was hoping my easy charm and rugged good looks would win them over.

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You elicit hostility by coming across as a gawking tourist.  

We've had legitimate journalists come on here and ask to talk to people before.  Universally, they've said right up front who they are, what news organization they work for or, if they freelance, where they plan to submit it.

You don't do any of that.

Some of your word choices sound like program speak, e.g. "uniformly hostile and non-constructive."

People here aren't hostile to the reporters who come on here and are open and honest about who they are and what they're doing.  On the contrary, Fornits folk have been open and friendly to such reporters.

It's not them, it's your interpersonal techniques and the impressions you convey with your choices of what to say and not say, and how to word it.

I'm saying this not to be mean to you but because I'm a writer (a published and paid novelist).  If you are a legitimate freelancer, I'm trying to help you out by pointing out where you're shooting yourself in the foot trying to gather material.

Some of the best writing advice I've gotten along the way has been some of the stuff I least wanted to hear.

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« Reply #1240 on: April 21, 2006, 09:41:00 AM »
Wonder what ever happened to alex.
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« Reply #1241 on: April 21, 2006, 09:45:00 AM »
You people didn't get the sarcasm in that post did you?
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« Reply #1242 on: April 21, 2006, 10:23:00 AM »
Well, hopefully his parents took him to Hawaii for a little R & R ?!!
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« Reply #1243 on: April 21, 2006, 01:07:00 PM »
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"Well, hopefully his parents took him to Hawaii for a little R & R ?!!"


One can dream!!  :grin:
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« Reply #1244 on: April 21, 2006, 01:08:00 PM »
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"You people didn't get the sarcasm in that post did you?

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Who is "you people" ?
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