Hyde is definately reading this board

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-06 08:03:00, Lars wrote:

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On 2005-12-05 15:53:00, Anonymous wrote:



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On 2005-12-05 12:35:00, Anonymous wrote:





"I truley feel that Hyde is monitoring this messae board :scared:  :scared:  :scared:  :scared: "

I'm not at all concerned that Hyde staff may be monitoring this website.  I think this kind of discussion should be out in the open for the benefit of parents looking for programs, educational consultants, Hyde staff, and other interested parties.  I don't think Hyde's monitoring of this site is a problem at all.  My hope is that the postings will be thoughtful, constructive, and fair.  If Hyde staff read these and choose to reject the opinions, that's their choice.  If they read these and make appropriate changes as a result, that's fine too.  (I'm not optimistic that Hyde will make fundamental changes.)  I feel strongly that parents and educational consultants should be aware of these diverse points of view and decide whether they're relevant and helpful.  I would hope Hyde wouldn't want to stifle the discussion."

They ARE looking at it.  Have a look at the post I started this thread with.  Just say what you want, and say it from the heart.  You can't expect them to engage in any sort of real dialogue about this stuff.  As another poster mentioned, it's a no win situation for them.  It appears that a few Hyde staff members have attempted to get in on it, but they're discovering that saying things like, "this link is a cesspool" gets them called on their hypocrisy and essentially blasted off the board.  They're used to controlling desperate families and can't handle a setting like this.



I've posted here to get some things off my chest and if some prospective parents decide to look elsewhere because of it, oh well...[ This Message was edited by: Lars on 2005-12-06 08:05 ]"

In fact, just two days ago I got an email message from a parent who was considering Hyde, found out about this website, apparently read many of the postings, and decided as a result to avoid Hyde completely.  (This parent posted an email message on another website asking for information about Hyde.  I sent him/her the link to this website and then got a reply informing me that because of this website the parents have decided Hyde is not likely to be a healthy environment for their child or for them.)

[Anonymous]

I think it is great that this board exists.  When I was looking at schools, (my child did not need a "program") I looked all over the web trying to find information about Hyde other than the promotional materials provided.  I only wish I had been able to see some of these informative comments in order to then weigh the good and the bad and make the right decision.

I thought I was being thorough by contacting a few of the alumni who provided their addresses on the Hyde Bulletin Board.  My Ed Consultant warned me that the only people who would provide their names and addresses would be those who were satisfied with the school and to not base my decision on this.  I did not listen to her, (I was desperate to hear positive comments) and as it turned out she was right.  

The former students and parents I spoke to and emailed from the bulletin board all talked the same "lingo" and at the time I thought this was wonderful.  I admit I was completely naive and my poor child is the one who had to pay the price.  To this day I apologize to my son for being sucked in and placing him in a program that was not appropriate for his lack of motivation.

I would like to say to all these angry former students, please understand that we as parents sometimes think we are doing the right thing and it turns out wrong.  Parents can and are wrong at times, but we need to learn and grow just like you do.  I think that many parents have a hard time admitting they made a mistake, but in my case I have no problem saying that I was wrong, I got sucked in, I put my child in a horrible place, and I feel ashamed to the point where I never talk about Hyde other than on this board.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-06 11:50:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I think it is great that this board exists.  When I was looking at schools, (my child did not need a "program") I looked all over the web trying to find information about Hyde other than the promotional materials provided.  I only wish I had been able to see some of these informative comments in order to then weigh the good and the bad and make the right decision.



I thought I was being thorough by contacting a few of the alumni who provided their addresses on the Hyde Bulletin Board.  My Ed Consultant warned me that the only people who would provide their names and addresses would be those who were satisfied with the school and to not base my decision on this.  I did not listen to her, (I was desperate to hear positive comments) and as it turned out she was right.  



The former students and parents I spoke to and emailed from the bulletin board all talked the same "lingo" and at the time I thought this was wonderful.  I admit I was completely naive and my poor child is the one who had to pay the price.  To this day I apologize to my son for being sucked in and placing him in a program that was not appropriate for his lack of motivation.



I would like to say to all these angry former students, please understand that we as parents sometimes think we are doing the right thing and it turns out wrong.  Parents can and are wrong at times, but we need to learn and grow just like you do.  I think that many parents have a hard time admitting they made a mistake, but in my case I have no problem saying that I was wrong, I got sucked in, I put my child in a horrible place, and I feel ashamed to the point where I never talk about Hyde other than on this board."

Thank you so much for your heartfelt comments.  Your experience with Hyde is so similar to ours.  We too talked with several alumni parents before applying; all of them used the same Hyde jargon, but we didn't know enough at the time to realize that was a red flag.  Like you, we got seduced by all the enthusiasm; we believed what we wanted to believe.  Also like you, our child did not need a heavy duty therapeutic program.  

We too discovered over time that Hyde was a TERRIBLE environment for our entire family.  We witnessed so much inappropriate behavior by staff that we knew, after about 6 months, that we had to look for an alternative.  We too have apologized to our child.  Fortunately our child is now doing extremely well (and there's no way in the world Hyde should take ANY credit for that - there's no question whatsoever it's the new school that turned things around.  We've had to work hard to undo the damage Hyde did.).

Now that we've seen how another school handles similar kids, we are kicking ourselves that we ever went to Hyde.  But, as you say, all of us can learn from these experiences.  Maybe this website will help other parents avoid the huge mistake we made when we enrolled at Hyde.

[Ed Davis]

Bright people realize you are all cowards for hiding behind your anonymity! Grow some cahonies and stand behind your convictions!

[TheWho]

On 2005-12-06 17:24:00, Ed Davis wrote:

"Bright people realize you are all cowards for hiding behind your anonymity! Grow some cahonies and stand behind your convictions! "

Come on Ed, 3 posts, why cant you contribute something?  You read some of the past posts (take some time) get to know some of the people here, then start contributing.  Any 2 year old can say "Whats your name!!"

[Anonymous]

On 2005-12-06 17:24:00, Ed Davis wrote:

"Bright people realize you are all cowards for hiding behind your anonymity! Grow some cahonies and stand behind your convictions! "

To parents considering Hyde: This and other messages posted today by Ed Davis are remarkably typical of what you can expect if you enroll at Hyde. Notice the intensely judgmental language in his messages, the crude accusations, and the "in your face" approach to dealing with other people. In my experience, there's a steady diet of that sort of behavior among many people at Hyde (although not all people at Hyde).

Mr. Davis: I can assure you I'm not a Hyde student. I'm a parent. I have chosen to remain anonymous because I've witnessed too many instances where parents who have spoken openly and critically about Hyde were verbally abused and, in turn, their kids were harrassed. Unfortunately, being open at Hyde sometimes is too risky. That's not a lack of courage; rather, it's good reality testing.

I'm glad to know that you had a good experience at Hyde. However, if you read the postings on this website you will discover that there are many people, including former Hyde students and parents, who believe Hyde was a horribly destructive environment.

It seems to me that if you had truly matured at Hyde you would not use the kind of abusive language and tone that fill your posting. Ironically, you have just reinforced what many people on this website have been saying about how damaging the Hyde environment can be. The irony is terribly poignant.

I accept that you are likely to disagree with me. I would prefer that you do so respectfully.

[Lars]

On 2005-12-06 17:24:00, Ed Davis wrote:

"Bright people realize you are all cowards for hiding behind your anonymity! Grow some cahonies and stand behind your convictions! "

The "coward" thing is getting old, Ed. People have good reasons for maintaining their privacy that have nothing to do with "courage."

I stand behind my convictions.  Tell me I'm a coward.  I don't think you will.  I got the cojones grandes, hijo.

And try to keep your comments civil on this board.  This is a serious discussion, not a flamethrowing contest.

[Anonymous]

The ony cesspool here is HYDE! What a terrible "school" ....

[Anonymous]

Why does Hyde monitor this board anyway? What can they get from it?

[Anonymous]

You know, The more that these staff members or supporters post on this link, the more they are proving the things we have been stating about Hyde , more and more! The people ( I included ) that recommend another school seem like THE ONLY rational people here!

[Anonymous]

Why DOES Hyde monitor this board? Great question..

[Anonymous]

what year was Hyde School founded?

[tommyfromhyde1]

On 2005-12-07 14:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"what year was Hyde School founded?"

1966.

Life may have no meaning.  Or even worse, it may have a meaning of which I disapprove.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0912800909/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Ashleigh Brilliant

[Hyde's Attorney]

Tommy, what years did you spend in the great Hyde School?

[Hyde's Attorney]

I can assure you that NOBODY at Hyde School is interested in this little fruitless board..Don't flatter yourselves.