Again...I don't think anyone here is saying that no child ever needs help. What we ARE saying is that a lot of parents seem to just accept sending them away as the norm, rather than the exception. You advocate sending them to these places for virtually anything. You also go out of your way to defend or minimize or justify even the most heinous actions and places.
Anne you admitted yourself here on fornits that programs are helpful in most cases and that you had embellished many of the events that you claim occurred inside the program.
Kindly provide a link. I don't recall her
ever posting anything of the
sort. What a
bizarre thing to state. Perhaps
you "misunderstood?"
Any kind of "treatment" that would involved separating the child from the family for such an extended period of time alone would warrant it be used as an absolute LAST resort and even then you've got to make sure it's real help with qualified people.
Exactly, most parents that I know of have done that. I think the key is qualified people (we agree here!) and that parents should speak with other parents to help insure the program is a good fit for their daughter.
Can you possibly show where or how you come to the assumption that "most parents" have already exhausted all other options before they resort to a program? Most parents are given such a spiel -- by the Edcons, by the programs, by other already inculcated parents, by
so called "expert" other parents -- that often the potentially destructive nature of these programs can be quite obscured.
...not some fucking pseudo-newage-tough love form of quackery. The ones that isolate them from the outside world, use the TC/confrontative peer pressure mode of "therapy", LGAT-like sessions, extreme hiking, pain compliance and restraining etc. should be fucking outlawed and the providers of such "therapy" be jailed.
Those were awful places. We are all lucky they closed them down.
Oh, there are a number of them still open. For one, the sister school of Mount Bachelor Academy -
Academy at Swift River -- is still in operation. As most folk by now know, MBA recently got shut down for
systemic abuse. ASR uses many of the
same therapeutic modalities that MBA used... In fact, I'm not really sure why you made that statement since, as you well know, there are
dozens of these hell-holes still in operation.
Come to think of it, the fact that a good number of these places are still open ... would appear to be a good part of why you are here posting on fornits in the first place, now wouldn't it, Whooter?
Now, bring on the minimization, justification and super spin that we're oh-so accustomed to by now.
This is a great discussion, If you don’t like people responding why post?
Lol. I must have missed
that exchange! I, for one, certainly do enjoy your posts, Whooter! Keep flailing away!
