Liscensure Questions

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-19 12:21:00, Anonymous wrote:

"This must be impossible because according to Robert Bruce there is noone to report grievences to concerning HLA.  This looks like a grienvence to me."

Are we current students dumbass?

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-19 12:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Kids go on visits with their parents all the time.  Starting with the two month visit.  They are ALONE with them during those visits.  There are kids going on visits for Christmas next week for seven days who have been here for 4 months.  They can tell their parents ANYTHING they want to tell them. "

Two month visit? No such thing exist unless things have seriously changed. Youre also casually leaving out the parent hand book is chock full of statements like "Your child will try and manipulate you and tell you HLA is an awful place. Do not believe him."

They also hear the same thing week in and week out in parent phone calls. If HLA truly has nothing to hide they would allow students unrestricted communication with their parents.

[Anonymous]

Yes a two month visit does exist and has existed for over a year now.  Nice to see you stay on top of what is going on.  You must really be out of touch with HLA if didn't know about that.  

Yes the parent handbook warns against kids manipulating their parents, because KID TRY TO MANIPULATE THEIR PARENTS.  Do you seriously think otherwise.  Wow!!  You have no clue how many of the kids at HLA work.  Are you SURE you went there.  You seem pretty ignorant.

Since a two month visit does exist, I am glad to hear you reccognize that things have really changed for the better at HLA.  That is very nice of you RB.
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[RobertBruce]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes a two month visit does exist and has existed for over a year now. Nice to see you stay on top of what is going on. You must really be out of touch with HLA if didn't know about that. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

As I said before dumbass Im not in inmate there, besides none of the things that matter have apparently changed now have they?

>>>>>>>>>>>Yes the parent handbook warns against kids manipulating their parents, because KID TRY TO MANIPULATE THEIR PARENTS. Do you seriously think otherwise. Wow!! You have no clue how many of the kids at HLA work. Are you SURE you went there. You seem pretty ignorant. <<<<<<<<<<<

Do you seriously think HLA staffers dont try and manipulate parents? Or better put con them out of more money? As I said before if HLA had nothing to hide they would allow unrestricted communication between parent and child. Oh and as well as being sure I went there Im sure youre little more than one of many lap dogs. Are you so ignorant that you thought the truth about things would never come out?

>>>>>>>>>>>Since a two month visit does exist, I am glad to hear you reccognize that things have really changed for the better at HLA. That is very nice of you RB.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Have they now? Are they still rationing food? Are they still encouraging kids to kill try and kill themselves? Are they still using kids as slave labor? Do they still employ brainwashing techniques? Do they still try and force kids to acknowledge problems they dont have? Are kids still abused physically, sexually, emotionally, and mentally? Do they still keep kids from telling their parents the truth about their situation? Do they still try and sow discord among the kids by forcing them to rat each other out? Do they still punish kids indefinitly for a refusal to acknowledge guilt? Do they still have a substandard educational system? Do they still have substandard food? Do the kids still live in squalor?

If so then again nothing that matters has changed no matter how many visits the inmates get.

Thanks for reinforcing that. It was very nice of you.

[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2005-12-19 13:22:00, Anonymous wrote:


Yes the parent handbook warns against kids manipulating their parents, because KID TRY TO MANIPULATE THEIR PARENTS.  Do you seriously think otherwise.  Wow!!  You have no clue how many of the kids at HLA work."

Who the hell are you/program to decide if a child is being manipulative or not? NO Manual/program has the right to tell parents what does or does not constitute manipulation. Only a parent should making the decision whether or not THEIR child is being manipulative or not. PARENTS know their children better than anyone.

[Anonymous]

That sounds good, but is naive.  You really have no understanding of how people think do you.  
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[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-19 12:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Kids go on visits with their parents all the time.  Starting with the two month visit.  They are ALONE with them during those visits.  There are kids going on visits for Christmas next week for seven days who have been here for 4 months.  They can tell their parents ANYTHING they want to tell them. "

What about the previous 4 months of no contact or censored contact.  Who do they report abuse to during the time they are forbidden contact with their parents or a CPS worker?

[Anonymous]

So Robert, are stating for the record that you have knowledge of kids being physically, sexually, emotionally, and mentally abused?  Is that what you are saying is a fact and are committed to that statement?

If so, I hope you can back it up.
If not, why are you saying things that you can't commit to?

I look forward to your evasive response.
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[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2005-12-19 14:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That sounds good, but is naive.  You really have no understanding of how people think do you.  "

How is this naive? EXPLAIN

How am I not understanding how people think? EXPLAIN

I made a valid point and you resort to insults instead of debating the issue at hand. I am not interested in any of your responses if all you can manage is a insult. Try debating with a counter argument, that would be interesting.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-19 14:03:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That sounds good, but is naive.  You really have no understanding of how people think do you.  "

Oh but we do. We just understand better than you that:

A. Not all children try to manipulate. Espically with HLA, there really isnt a reason to when telling the truth will suffice.

and

B. Adults, espically greedy child abusing ones are just as capable and willing to manipulate things in order to achieve their goals.

You still havent answered the question though. If HLA has nothing to hide why restrict communication?

[Anonymous]

Because kids manipulate their parents.  Especially ones that are in programs and don't want to be there.  If I were in a program, I would tell my parents anything I could to get pulled.  It happens Robert.  The more you talk, the less you sound like a kid who has been around kids at HLA.  I question everything you have said at this point, because you sound so ignorant.  
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[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-19 14:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So Robert, are stating for the record that you have knowledge of kids being physically, sexually, emotionally, and mentally abused?  Is that what you are saying is a fact and are committed to that statement?



If so, I hope you can back it up.

If not, why are you saying things that you can't commit to?



I look forward to your evasive response."

I have seen kids mentally/emotionally/physically abused and I have correspondences from young women who claim they were sexually abused.

That's not evasive.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-12-19 14:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"So Robert, are stating for the record that you have knowledge of kids being physically, sexually, emotionally, and mentally abused?  Is that what you are saying is a fact and are committed to that statement?



If so, I hope you can back it up.

If not, why are you saying things that you can't commit to?



I look forward to your evasive response."

I personally was physically, mentally, and emotionally abused yes. I have heard first hand accounts of people being sexually abused, both while there and afterwards through venues such as this and other contact with former students.

Is that evasie enough for you?

[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2005-12-19 14:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Because kids manipulate their parents.  Especially ones that are in programs and don't want to be there.  If I were in a program, I would tell my parents anything I could to get pulled.  It happens Robert.  The more you talk, the less you sound like a kid who has been around kids at HLA.  I question everything you have said at this point, because you sound so ignorant.  "

How do you determine if a child is being manipulative? Just cause a kid wants out DOESNT mean the kid is being manipulative by stating his HONEST wishes to be removed to a parent. Whether the child belongs there is for the parent to determine, not for some uneducated staffer to determine. Kids are routinely put in these places when they clearly dont belong there....kids can tell when they are in a place they dont belong...and when they express this OBVIOUS FACT, that is NOT manipulation. Or, kids often unconsciously or consciously recognize mistreatment/abuse, but dont know how to express it except in the form of asking their parents to let them leave. This is NOT manipulation, this is a SMART kid using his survival instincts.

Do you know what manipulation is?

[Troll Control]

On 2005-12-19 14:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Because kids manipulate their parents.  Especially ones that are in programs and don't want to be there.  If I were in a program, I would tell my parents anything I could to get pulled.  It happens Robert.  The more you talk, the less you sound like a kid who has been around kids at HLA.  I question everything you have said at this point, because you sound so ignorant.  "

Honestly, you are either the most ignorant person on here or just a committed liar and dogmatist.  I mean, c'mon, you're on this board all day all night.  You're either getting paid to be here or you're just a seriously misguided dope with no sense of reality.

I just hope you understand that your factually bereft, dogmatic defense of your RTC only shows prospective parents how shady you are: willing to say anything to defend abuses you yourself have already acknowledged.  You're a pretty sad case.

I'm sure that you have actually discouraged business with your actions.  Thanks for the help.  Not to mention, your activity here will boost this site to the top of search engines when people look for info on your RTC.  I'm afraid their first impression of you is going to undermine your marketing endeavors.