Statistics

[Anonymous]

Are there any statistics on the percentage of members on the website to the rest of the US population; percentage of members to all those who entered Straight (graduated or not)?

Just trying to get a representative idea of how many people are or have been affected by Straight.

[Antigen]

As far as I know, the best guestimates we have are pretty loose. You can estimate the size of group you were in (not necessarily very reliable, as memories fade over time) and then try and put it together w/ other people's similar estimates. Then there's the question of turnover; how many newcomers dissapeared and were never spoken of again soon after intake?

Then there are all the other programs; some spun off from Straight, others coming up at the same time by way of the CEDU spin offs. Still others using very similar tactics that predate Synanon, like the Roloff 'ministries' and still bangin' on all 8 today.

As stats go, the number of people who happen to find this site is practically meaningless. First, we're self selected; only ppl w/ an interest now are going to make an appearance. Second, practical access. How many of the whole undocumented group have regular access to the net?

At the end of the day, no, there's no reliable means to keep track because the Programs never kept or released any serious data.

If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
 
--Thomas Jefferson

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-28 08:40:00, Antigen wrote:

"As far as I know, the best guestimates we have are pretty loose. You can estimate the size of group you were in (not necessarily very reliable, as memories fade over time) and then try and put it together w/ other people's similar estimates. Then there's the question of turnover; how many newcomers dissapeared and were never spoken of again soon after intake?



Then there are all the other programs; some spun off from Straight, others coming up at the same time by way of the CEDU spin offs. Still others using very similar tactics that predate Synanon, like the Roloff 'ministries' and still bangin' on all 8 today.



As stats go, the number of people who happen to find this site is practically meaningless. First, we're self selected; only ppl w/ an interest now are going to make an appearance. Second, practical access. How many of the whole undocumented group have regular access to the net?



At the end of the day, no, there's no reliable means to keep track because the Programs never kept or released any serious data.

If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
 
--Thomas Jefferson

"

Thank you.

[starry-eyed pirate]

i called the straight survivors hotline # like about 3 years ago, this was before my sister gave me her ol' computer, Some cat on the other end of the hotline tol' me 55,000 kids had been through str8.  i don' know where he got that #.

[Anonymous]

that was Marti's old hotline. She corroborated with Mike S. on a few tidbits of info about how their family wound up or they wound up getting their heads put through walls. They're nasty folks these two, I think they take pay from Sembler.

He's not taking his meds again, you're Brian Dobbs, you're animals, he/she/they/we/us/them/etc., stop spamming, its all a big conspiracy against you, slander, fuck off, I'll call the police if you continue saying what you want, I'll tell my family, etc...

Think about it, you get some small pay to set up a hotline for survivors where you can record the conversation, phone numbers and other -and then you get to start counting the days as the statutes of limitations wind down for any court appearances.

Hey, good job Marti Heath; former staff at Straight Inc.

[Anonymous]

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8547&forum=7

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"that was Marti's old hotline. She corroborated with Mike S. on a few tidbits of info about how their family wound up or they wound up getting their heads put through walls. They're nasty folks these two, I think they take pay from Sembler.



He's not taking his meds again, you're Brian Dobbs, you're animals, he/she/they/we/us/them/etc., stop spamming, its all a big conspiracy against you, slander, fuck off, I'll call the police if you continue saying what you want, I'll tell my family, etc...



Think about it, you get some small pay to set up a hotline for survivors where you can record the conversation, phone numbers and other -and then you get to start counting the days as the statutes of limitations wind down for any court appearances.



Hey, good job Marti Heath; former staff at Straight Inc."

Fuck you bitch!

[webcrawler]

Time to roll the med cart out....  :flame:

Edited because I don't know what whack job I'm even responding to.  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

" I think they take pay from Sembler.

"

I doubt Sherman needs money or payola from Sembler.  Sherman owns a land planning and development company   Last I saw Sherman he had bought a new 911.  Doubt Sembler had anything to do with that.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-31 13:40:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


" I think they take pay from Sembler.


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I doubt Sherman needs money or payola from Sembler.  Sherman owns a land planning and development company   Last I saw Sherman he had bought a new 911.  Doubt Sembler had anything to do with that."

Hi Mike.

[Cayo Hueso]

On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:

"that was Marti's old hotline. She corroborated with Mike S. on a few tidbits of info about how their family wound up or they wound up getting their heads put through walls.

Actually it was much more than that.  To my understanding that information, combined with info on his new little 'church' is what's gotten him into the hot water with Bankruptcy court at the moment.  Yep, Sembler sure is getting his money's worth in what he's paying Mike or Marti.  :roll:  Hope Betty doesn't catch wind of this, it may upset her.  In her depo she continued to praise Newt and considered anyone who disagreed with HIM to be a threat to HER.

If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-01 15:42:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

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On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


"that was Marti's old hotline. She corroborated with Mike S. on a few tidbits of info about how their family wound up or they wound up getting their heads put through walls.

Actually it was much more than that.  To my understanding that information, combined with info on his new little 'church' is what's gotten him into the hot water with Bankruptcy court at the moment.  Yep, Sembler sure is getting his money's worth in what he's paying Mike or Marti.  :roll:  Hope Betty doesn't catch wind of this, it may upset her.  In her depo she continued to praise Newt and considered anyone who disagreed with HIM to be a threat to HER.

If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

"

this is your way of keeping the heat off of kicking these people's asses. Let's create controversy between ourselves, discussions and myths about how these folks are finally gonna get what should be coming to them - in an effort to avoid what should really be given to them inside of a nice ass beating, pay me enough and I'll do some of the beatings for you, otherwise just go die somewhere. Creating minor controversy is a very Machiavellian way of looking at the big folk who pull shit all day and continue to get away with it. This site and all of the people on it are Pro Straight, it is funded by Pro Straightlings. It's small time and not one person here has ever actually 'closed down Straight' buildings all by themselves nor have they really done anything against Pro Straighters. Hoax, I call a hoax.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-02 09:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-11-01 15:42:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:


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On 2005-10-31 10:35:00, Anonymous wrote:



"that was Marti's old hotline. She corroborated with Mike S. on a few tidbits of info about how their family wound up or they wound up getting their heads put through walls.

Actually it was much more than that.  To my understanding that information, combined with info on his new little 'church' is what's gotten him into the hot water with Bankruptcy court at the moment.  Yep, Sembler sure is getting his money's worth in what he's paying Mike or Marti.  :roll:  Hope Betty doesn't catch wind of this, it may upset her.  In her depo she continued to praise Newt and considered anyone who disagreed with HIM to be a threat to HER.

If you think yourself too wise to involve

yourself in government, you will be governed

by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

"

this is your way of keeping the heat off of kicking these people's asses. Let's create controversy between ourselves, discussions and myths about how these folks are finally gonna get what should be coming to them - in an effort to avoid what should really be given to them inside of a nice ass beating, pay me enough and I'll do some of the beatings for you, otherwise just go die somewhere. Creating minor controversy is a very Machiavellian way of looking at the big folk who pull shit all day and continue to get away with it. This site and all of the people on it are Pro Straight, it is funded by Pro Straightlings. It's small time and not one person here has ever actually 'closed down Straight' buildings all by themselves nor have they really done anything against Pro Straighters. Hoax, I call a hoax."

What the fuck are you talking about?  You're a part of this site so you must be "Pro Sraight" too.  Dumb ass.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-02 09:38:00, Anonymous wrote:

pay me enough and I'll do some of the beatings for you,

Why would you need to be "turned loose" (your term from an earlier psychotic episode-fueled rant) or be "paid" to do it.  If you feel so strongly about this shit, why don't you go and do it yourself.  No one is fucking stopping you (or are they?  there are conspirators everywhere), hell, I'd probably laugh a bit and raise a drink in toast to you if you did it.  But you won't do it, 'cause you're a coward, a whiny little punk playing the tough guy so he can get the precious attention he craves. Go prove what a fucking tough guy you are, I wanna read about your brave acts of vengeance in the newspaper.  Asshole.

[Anonymous]

This is a Big Hoax.