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« on: October 25, 2005, 05:35:00 PM »
I received this from Jordan Riak and feel we should all support this very important resolution for children:

Dear Friends,
 
I THANK YOU for your most thoughtful support of my Positive Parenting Resolution (see below) which will be heard before Chicago's City Council on Friday October 28th at 10 am. All are welcome to attend! The hearing will take place at Chicago's City Hall, 121 N LaSalle, in Council Chambers.
 
On Wednesday, I am printing a booklet of your responses and will be giving one to each of Chicago's Aldermen. If you have not yet sent a response and would like for your voice to be directly heard, please send your thoughts no later than October 26 by noon CST. E-mail http://www.directeffectcharities.org
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RESOLUTION

 

As Submitted by Michelle DiGiacomo

Presented to Chicago City Council by

Alderman Isaac Carothers, 29th Ward

September 14, 2005

WHEREAS, all children need love, guidance and deserve to grow up in an environment free from violence and physical harm.  Positive, non-violent, peaceful forms of discipline teach children to think beyond the immediate and give them a blueprint for future reference; and

WHEREAS, children are influenced by the model for behavior set by adults in their environment. When adults resort to violence, children are likely to learn this behavior is acceptable and imitate it with their peers; and

WHEREAS, positive, non-violent parenting promotes positive, peaceful relationships and respect for others and their rights to safety; and

WHEREAS, childhood is a unique and critical stage of life. All children share the same basic needs for safety, health, love and dignity. Peaceful, communicative parenting supports a child?s development; and

WHEREAS, current research shows that exposure to violence negatively impacts upon normal brain development and learning for all children; and

WHEREAS, violent behavior learned in the home and school environment is reflected in the behaviors of people throughout our communities, cities and societies at large. As a result of this violence, children and families are hurting, education systems and learning has been hindered, and prisons are overflowing with youth; now therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED, that the City Council of the City of Chicago will support a proclamation that encourages non-violent discipline in the effort to reduce violence towards all but especially within the family and as directed towards children; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Council of Chicago, on behalf of the children of Chicago, help establish ties between our schools and community through the promotion of mental health and family counseling programs to support families experiencing stress; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City of Chicago Child Abuse Prevention Joint Task Force is urged to continue its advocacy on behalf of children experiencing violence in the home; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that City Departments and Agencies are encouraged to implement and distribute positive, non-violent parenting literature within the community via schools, churches, hospitals and community organizations which will help to make parents aware of education that supports behavior management strategies as alternatives to corporal punishment; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that this resolution shall serve as notice that City Council of the City of Chicago has been and shall remain vigilant in guarding the best interests of the children of Chicago in all matters to the extent legally and feasibly possible.

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Jordan Riak, Exec. Dir., Parents and Teachers Against Violence in Education (PTAVE), P.O. Box 1033, Alamo, CA 94507-7033. Web site: "Project NoSpank" at http://www.nospank.net  Telephone: (925) 831-1661

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MY RESPONSE:
 
I am very well aware of the magnitude of child and teen abuse in this country and would personally like to help in the fight against it.
 
Children are precious. They deserve to be innocent. They deserve to be safe. They deserve love. They deserve respect. They deserve to be comforted when they are scared. They deserve kindness. They deserve a proper education. They desrve shelter. They deserve to be children.
 
They deserve parents who will put themselves aside when it comes to the needs of their children, parents who will not only provide for their children's physical needs, but for their emotional needs as well.
 
There is an epidemic of parents feeling inadequate to parent their own pre-teens and teenagers. A billion dollar a year industry, one of America's largest, snuck up on us and continues to thrive and grow. Why? Because they have found a way to convince parents that without their programs their children will die. Parents, already feeling inadequate, are easily convinced that someone else can do a better job. They are also convinced to have their children abducted against their will, most often times in the middle of the night from their beds, to get them there. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
Children are being abused at home, in programs away from home, by strangers, by friends, by relatives, by priests, by boy scout leaders, it's unbelievable. It is our job as parents, as teachers, as therapists, as friends, as human beings, to protect the children and to see that they are safe. If we suspect something is going on we should not hesitate to act quickly to protect the child, for the child is most often not able to protect him or herself.
 
Wake up, America, and help the children. Together we can make a difference!
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 05:56:00 PM »
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BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the City Council of Chicago, on behalf of the children of Chicago, help establish ties between our schools and community through the promotion of mental health and family counseling programs to support families experiencing stress; and


Riiiiight! Why leave it to the amateurs. Let's mandate that every child be worked over by professional berzerkers!

Sorry, pass, this is bad law.

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2005, 05:57:00 PM »
Please elaborate, Ginger.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 06:48:00 PM »
Well, in my experience and observation, when a family is experiencing stress, the very worst thing you can do is add some coercion. And there cannot be public funding without coercion. It just can't happen. The funding agencies have liabilities to consider.

So we have situations like in Florida, where family intervention and counseling through the schools is rampant. Kids getting snatched from their homes over petty and unsubstantiated claims. They can't risk their asses by NOT taking the kids, and there's no enforcement on the other end. If a kid gets abused at home, HRS investigates; at school, the school district does it, in foster care, CYS (fka HRS) So, to their thinking, to err on the side of caution is to take the kids.  

Oh, another gem. This, mind you, all occured to kids I happened to meet a few times in a $50 - $90k neighborhood. A girl was a little too slow to respond when the assistant principal came into the room and demanded that everyone sit down. She wasn't the slowest one, they all sort of ignored her. This girl was just the closest one. So this alleged adult who's stomping her feet, demanding respect, raises her fist to this girl and threatens to hit her if she didn't get in a seat NOW! So the girl has the audacity to tell her to go ahead, but I'm hitting you back.

They cuffed the girl and took her down to the Juvenile Intervention Facility in downtown Ft. Lauderdale, about 10 mi away. By the time they called the mother to let her know where her kid was, they'd allready given her Welbutrin for 'her anger problem'. And they were none too eager to let the girl go home, as they wanted to keep an eye on her for symptomatic behavior.  

Not that the family hadn't been experiencing some stress. They had a good deal of it already. But do you think this was a helpful response? I got the sense at the time that all members of the family found it most unhelpful.

This kid had been pulling a %95+ grade and they were trying to flunk her for behavioral issues; the the propensity to speak her mind and look white women in the eye for more than 3 seconds.

Basically, any law serves the lawyers and lobbyists and congresscritters and other various bureaucrats far better than the rest of us.

You want a model for success? Look at tobacco consumption, trends and history. Though there are all kinds of politicritters coming out of the woodwork now to pass laws and take credit, the drastic drop in smoking was well underway spontaniously in the `70's. It's been education and a gradual, almost wholely organic cultural shift that has done it. Not the laws. Compare that to, say, our track record w/ illicit drugs, poverty, or any other idea upon which we've waged war.

No, I think education is the key here. I'm cool with passing a sense of the body type resolution. That's a very good idea. But then to fund solutions to problems that may not exist and which, themselves, haven't worked out so good in the past, well that's just blind faith.

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »
I can attest to the fact that all a non-custodial parent (or grandparent for that matter) is make an allegation and the child is pulled from the home.  Happened to me more than once.  Its gotten completely out of control.

Interesting side note:  Dave Crock works for HRS or whatever incarnation it is now.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 07:07:00 PM »
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"I can attest to the fact that all a non-custodial parent (or grandparent for that matter) is make an allegation and the child is pulled from the home.  Happened to me more than once.  Its gotten completely out of control.



Interesting side note:  Mel Riddile's school district?

That's the thing. People who come up with this stuff and who back it and support it are usually really decent people w/ good intentions. But they project all that onto the political sharks who will actually act on it. Too often, it's unfounded. Hell, even if you start out w/ good people in office, if you give the office too much power, that's like throwing chum to the waters.


The college idealists who fill the ranks of the environmental movement seem willing to do absolutely anything to save the biosphere, except take science courses and learn something about it.


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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 07:34:00 PM »
Thanks for the feedback, Ginger. I'll be honest in that I'm pretty naive to some of this stuff. I came on the scene to try to help kids, feeling that things were completely out of control in this industry. I am learning more as time goes on, and a lot of it I'm learning by reading things here. I will admit that at first I wasn't sure what to think of some things you said. But the more I read and think about what you're saying, the more I'm coming to grips with some things. It's really disheartening but it's really true.

Yes, many of us are out there doing what we think is right for the sake of the kids. I'm seeing that we need to be very open-minded about all of this.

So, thanks again. I appreciate your feedback.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 09:53:00 PM »
Read Aliah's story here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#96104
Long story, short- screened at school, dx w/depression, parents disagree, CPS put kid in State Mental Hosp where she is given 13 psych drugs. Some not approved for use in pediatrics, some off-label. Not an isolated incident.

And Illinois' Mental Health Plan (Screening) here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 120#107454

A report showed that in Tx, a child was 5 times more likely to be injured or killed in out-of-home placements.
Some of the kids in state custody were on as many as 15 psychotropic drugs. One of the state docs attempted to justify the need for psych drugs in this population of kids because the CAME FROM A BAD GENE POOL!!!
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=50#65963
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 100#103345

A large number of kids who have been removed from their parents into state care end up in unlicensed programs:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#66546
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 52&forum=9
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 84&forum=9

Any rational reason to give state/CPS MORE control? I think not.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 10:21:00 PM »
PS I think the very best way any of us can 'help' kids that are not our own is to reach their ignorant and distressed parents. One-on-one.
Model respect for kids in public. Some may notice and take a hint.
We can protest/vote against bad laws and policies and invite others to do the same.
We can speak for kids in public.
We can challenge the school district on their insane policies and requirements of kids.
We can mentor kids who are stuck in the system (public school/cps).
We can assist kids in filing lawsuits against those who have abused them, and/or in applying for emancipation.
If the resource is available, we can fund the defense of poor/people of color who find themselves at the mercy of CPS or some MH court, so they don't end up with some lame-ass court appointed attorney.

Institutions/bureaucracies (schools/cps) can not provide the needs of kids (or adults for that matter). While there may be an ocassional individual in either that might do some good, the system has historically done more harm than good. Why does CPS still have a reputation with the masses for doing good? The word is not getting out.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2005, 02:10:00 PM »
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Oh yeah,Dave Crock


Could this be them???  His wife's name is Cynthia and I heard they live in T.I.

Crock, D & C
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
Thanks for the kudos, Anon. I may very well be way, way out of the mainstream on a lot of issues. And I'm bound to be wrong about some things. But I do enjoy slapping the issues around like a red headed step child. And I think it's productive.

But don't be disheartened. Most people just have never seriously questioned the idea that, for every problem, there ought to be a law and a program and .... something. Well, now we are questioning that basic premis. More and more people are either taking their kids out of school or insisting on fair and respectful treatment of their kids by the schoolpeople. I'm sure the local authorities (SW Pa) were just shocked when some kid's dad sued them over their suspicionless drug screening policy. But it made the rounds in the editorial pages and the courts and, sure' nuff, the policy was reversed on constitutional grounds.

Now, if more parents would involve themselves in their kids' lives that way instead of suborning themeselves to the role of babysitter, school system enforcer, I think we'd have far fewer angry, disenfranchised, rebellious kids and a far better, cheaper and less invasive school system.

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