Raped in Straight Inc.

[ex-prisoner]

Y'all are fuckheads for weighing in with your "I don't believe you" "this sounds fishy". God damn fuckheads. Sorry to the O.P. who posted, sounds like you have some REAL human support in the way of a decent counselor type. Stick with that, man. I wish I could offer you more assistance, I guess the best bit of advice I heard was look into who is doing the Catholic Church rape cases, but then, there have been well-publicized cases wherein the victims got some justice or some cash, but on the other hand I read a write-up in the LA Times the other day wherein several victims corroborating each other and so on were not able to get justice. But hey, be careful talking to any cop about revenge, right?

Anyway, I think it takes a fuck of a lot of nerve to tell this person you don't believe their story. Who the fuck are you.

As for Carmel's post, I read it twice, it sounds alright. But Carmel, do you think there is nothing to be said for revenge, court justice, and all that? Is it always up to the crime victim to get their own peace? Do you think all this prison sentencing and monetary compensating is outdated and for the birds? I mean, I just really am curious.

[Carmel]

As for Carmel's post, I read it twice, it sounds alright. But Carmel, do you think there is nothing to be said for revenge, court justice, and all that? Is it always up to the crime victim to get their own peace? Do you think all this prison sentencing and monetary compensating is outdated and for the birds? I mean, I just really am curious."

I think that ultimately, yes, it is up to the victim to get their own peace.  I will explain....

I am not discounting justice. Revenge is petty to me because there is an emotional element in the acting out of revenge that I feel only makes the person exacting it just like the person they are exacting it from.  When the blood is on the floor and all is said and done, whether you sued the pants of someone, or gave them the death penalty....you are still the vicitm of a wrong, just like you were in the beginning.  No amount of justice ever changes that fact.  And unless you are superhuman and arent going to have any feelings about your victimization, then you are going to have to take that road that leads to healing, albeit much much later in the game than you could have before.  I dont thing it is wrong or outdated to pursue justice, just understand what it really is you are getting out of the deal, and thats very rarely full resoultion.

I dont think justice is wrong, I just think when it comes to you and your personal feelings about how you want to live the remainder of your life....well, it is possibly a bit overrated in how its going to help you chose the path to do so. [ This Message was edited by: Carmel on 2005-10-22 20:31 ]

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:



So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters.  There seems to be something fishy in your story."

In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.
Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.
Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.
Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.

Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html

Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....

Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.

So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.

Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.
I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.

This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.

- former rape survivor

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:





So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters.  There seems to be something fishy in your story."

In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.

Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.

Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.

Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.



Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html



Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....



Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.



So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.



Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.

I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.



This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.



- former rape survivor

"

Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up.

[Deprogrammed]

On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:


"

On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:







So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters.  There seems to be something fishy in your story."

In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.


Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.


Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.


Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.





Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html





Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....





Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.





So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.





Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.


I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.





This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.





- former rape survivor


"

Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."

Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.
As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.

Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous

[Deprogrammed]

On 2005-10-23 11:35:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

"

On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:


"

On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:



"

On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:









So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters.  There seems to be something fishy in your story."

In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.



Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.



Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.



Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.







Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html







Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....







Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.







So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.







Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.



I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.







This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.







- former rape survivor



"

Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."

Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.

As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.

Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous

"

Furthermore,
The poster never ever stated that women are raped more than men.....If they did show it to me.......If not quit telling everyone else to "read up"....and "read up" yourself!

Jails and prisons are the complement of schools; so many less as you have of the latter, so many more you must have of the former

--Horace Mann

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-23 11:38:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

"

On 2005-10-23 11:35:00, Deprogrammed wrote:


"

On 2005-10-23 09:20:00, Anonymous wrote:



"

On 2005-10-22 22:10:00, Anonymous wrote:




"

On 2005-10-22 04:26:00, Anonymous wrote:











So - I'd have to agree with some of the other posters.  There seems to be something fishy in your story."

In 2002-2003, there were an average of 223,280 victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.




Only about 40% of rapes sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement in 2003.




Since 1993, rape/sexual assault has fallen by over 65%.




Every two and a half minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.









Source: http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html









Statistics show that rape victims do not always report rape right away or at all.....This happens for many reasons, fear of being victimed all over again by the rapists attorney, fear in general, post traumatic rape syndrome, etc....









Rape is a womans worst nightmare come true.









So, all of you people on here that are so quick to judge a person that says that he or she has been raped may want to rethink your stances on this subject and get real, and start educating yourselves.









Post traumatic rape syndrome in particular is extremely similar to post traumatic stress disorder.




I really feel that this "judgemental mindset that I have been seeing on this thread in regards to this is sad, and I also feel that it is definitely a "programmed" response, not only from "the program", but mainly from society.









This deeply saddens me to see this, but unfortunately we are not all deprogrammed as of yet I see.









- former rape survivor




"

Although it may or May not be true that more females are 'sexually assaulted' than males, it is more so true that less males report being raped than females. You are at least correct that the stigmas that go along with being raped are a tremendous hurdle in our America. In fact, only about one out of every ten males will report it in their lifetime if it happened. So although your facts are not sexist, they border on sexism simply due to the fact that the person who started this line of thought, the rape victim here, has not said at all whether they were female or male. Read up."

Actually the statistics that were posted by anon were not gender specific at all if you would "read up" and look at them. Then the anon only stated that rape is a womans worst nightmare. if that anon is speaking from personal experience which she obviously is claiming to be, by signing -rape survivor, then that anon is only speaking from her personal experience. This is not sexism by the way.


As for the original anon poster you are correct, they did not state their gender. I do not see any sexism here, but I do have to agree with the second anon when they say it is sad to see lack of support for any rape survivor. The fact is this: noone was there when this happened to this person, so why are we so quick automatically to not believe this person?...Sounds like to me that you would like to have sexism enter in here but where is it at? I do not see it.

Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous

"

Furthermore,

The poster never ever stated that women are raped more than men.....If they did show it to me.......If not quit telling everyone else to "read up"....and "read up" yourself!

Jails and prisons are the complement of schools; so many less as you have of the latter, so many more you must have of the former

--Horace Mann

"

Alrite, sexist. Since you don't want to read up and assume that I should take my own advice; perhaps you don't want to read up and assume that the 'former rape victim' (lol, does this mean that SHE was somehow raped in a former life or perhaps she is 'no longer raped', former?, or is SHE stating that she is no longer a victim. unclear, but what is clear is that SHE wastes no time in assuming that the original postor is female since more women come forward than men.) didn't post that she thinks the original postor is female by stating this.  That person did mention that the staff member was male I think, but never made mention that he/she was any gender. For all you know they might be fucking one big hole. Now I do know from personal experience that more of the guys side had sexual issues than the females reported in my time at Straight. Hell, we were always talking about it. When I was in Straight there were two juvenile boys who were being seduced by a senior staff female. When we found out it was rippin time.

Yeah, since you are unclear as to what rape is on the whole I'll spell it out for you.

It can happen to anyone regardless of sexual gender, duh.

Now that we are all done slandering such a sensitive topic allow me to apologize again if I have offended anyone. You can continue to slander simply b/c I am taking a different approach on this, but I perhaps am not being as sensitive as maybe I should. Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there.

[Anonymous]

Here is what you said:

Now that we are all done slandering such a sensitive topic allow me to apologize again if I have offended anyone. You can continue to slander simply b/c I am taking a different approach on this, but I perhaps am not being as sensitive as maybe I should. Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there."
[/quote]

Here is what I say: I didn't see anyone slandering anyone here but you.......If you loved straight then you must like abuse...and that is sad for you.....There have been plenty of people that were sexually assaulted in straight male and female, this is turth whether you believe it or not. Noone can convince you, that is fine, but you have no right to judge other peoples woes period.

[Anonymous]

the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post.

[Anonymous]

Its likely due to the fact that I find it hard to believe that someone was raped in Straight in the 80s. Our parents payed good money and nothing bad was done to us. Was It? I mean, I really liked it there all the time. I wish I was still there."

Hey other anon (this is anon #3{at least....}), I think, no, I'm pretty sure, no, I'm definitely sure this is sarcasm.  It would be funny, too, if it wasn't so sad.

[Deprogrammed]

On 2005-10-23 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post."

Dear Anon,
Have ye ever been raped?

If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-24 19:07:00, Deprogrammed wrote:

"

On 2005-10-23 21:10:00, Anonymous wrote:


"the only bloke judging was you ms. sensitive., but as YOU said earlier, only women get raped. It was me who mentioned that males get raped. No, I can't read your mind, I can only read what you post."

Dear Anon,

Have ye ever been raped?

If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.  
--Plato

"

nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if I had told you I was a male and that the staff member who raped me was male if you would suddenly think different of the situation. Because I am male, and it happened at the main Straight in the 1980s. I know the guy's name who did this to me and I know what he looks like.

Now don't you feel a little less sensitive about the issue?

Fuck you for assuming I was a female you fucking piece of shit.

Women don't respond to revenge the way men do. That word does not have the same meaning to the different sexes if for no other reason than women just don't have the testerone or the physical/chemical makeup that men do who need to respond physically toward a situation. Doesn't matter what you slander it or call it, it's true in many different ways that I don't have time to explain.

So, it makes it harder for me when my body says, 'go and hurt that man's family a whole lot', than it might for you.

That is not to say that your advice was not somehow useful, but I doubt it will be filled with the same exact sincerity now that you know my fucking gender. "Oh, well, he's male, he's tougher - he'll just get over it and move on". Right? If I were female then your advice would apply since I would be a sensitive minority who needs counseling. Thank you kindly for your racism.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-24 23:00:00, Anonymous wrote:


nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole."

And you were there to confirm that this did not happen?  Crawl back under that rock you came from.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-10-25 11:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

"

On 2005-10-24 23:00:00, Anonymous wrote:



nO, wAiT, this is AnOn #4 or 5 or more... yeah, I was raped in Straight, too. What a fucking j0ke. It never happened. Sammie was never raped and neither was this first person here who started this whole shits. What an ass for even mentioning some shit. I mean, what purpose would this have to only just now say something about it? Or wait, didn't they say they only recently remember??? Oh, well then maybe you should just fucking kill yourself because NOONE is going to help you out of you own mess asshole."

And you were there to confirm that this did not happen?  Crawl back under that rock you came from."

you were there to confirm it did? you first, I'll hold the rock up for you there, slimeshell.