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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2005, 01:37:00 PM »
A survey would be fine. Get me the information of the person I should contact. I will go ahead, and do it.
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« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2005, 01:41:00 PM »
You probably couldn't handle it today and you shouldn't have to handle it. Nor should you have had to handle it back then. I'm not trying to tell you what to do but just give you some advice. Constructive advice. You can do whatever you want to with it. It is your choice how you handle your story. I was only trying to let you know what has happened in the past since you are new here.

Anyway, the fact is I hate these programs too. What they did to you is horrific and you should never have had to go through any of it, let alone at the age of 15. One of the problems, as I see it, is lack of knowledge. Too many people in the world do not know what is happening. Every time I mention it to others, and that is very often, they have never heard of it. I find it hard to believe but that's because I'm in the middle of it because of someone I love.

The point is the word needs to get out. I'm not sure what the best approach will be but parents are mindlessly and naively sending their kids away to programs who make them believe they will help their kids. I can't fathom for a single moment how a parent could fall for it. I just can't. It boggles my mind how someone could think sending their child hundreds or thousands of miles away could be good for them. That not talking to their child for months on end could be good for them. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Good luck, CCM Girl. You never deserved what happened to you and I only hope you find peace with all of it. Whatever you decide to do is up to you and no one else. I apologize if I seemed to be "telling" you what to do because that was not my intention. I just wanted to share what I've learned and observed.
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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2005, 01:44:00 PM »
Here's a link to Alison Pinto's website. Her phone number and email are listed toward the bottom of the page. Good luck, I think contacting her would be a good start.

http://cfs.fmhi.usf.edu/cfsnews/2005news/A_START.html
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« Reply #48 on: October 17, 2005, 01:45:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-17 10:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

 If she wants to make a difference then she should keep her story to herself until she decides if she wants to share it. And then she should share it with a lawyer, someone who can lead her in the right direction."


Maybe its just me, but that seems a lot like you're telling her what she should do.  There's an awful lot of "you/she shoulds" in your posts to her.
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« Reply #49 on: October 17, 2005, 01:46:00 PM »
Read my post to her above. I was just trying to give her some advice from what I've seen and learned. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. I wish her the very best and hope she gets in touch with Alison and participates in the survey. I don't know if the survey is even ready yet, but I know it's in the works.
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« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2005, 01:50:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-17 10:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Here's a link to Alison Pinto's website. Her phone number and email are listed toward the bottom of the page. Good luck, I think contacting her would be a good start.



http://cfs.fmhi.usf.edu/cfsnews/2005news/A_START.html"


More regulation.  Yeah, that's the ticket, yeah.  :roll:

The people involved may very well have all the best intentions.  I don't know enough about them but I am hesitant to trust that government regulation will solve this problem, especially considering the current administration.
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« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2005, 02:09:00 PM »
A little history on me.........I was first sent away at the age of 12. I'll never forget the date 1-16-86. I was the youngest girl at the school. My first placement was called Heritage School for girls, located in Provo, Utah. Anyway, I was only supposed to be there for 1 year. 1 year came, and went.....I lost my only brother 6 months after I got there in a freak drowning accident. That was my first homevisit, was attending his funeral. I didn't go on many homevisits, 2-3 a year. I never got in any trouble when I went home, I did everything I could to prove to my parents I would be the perfect daughter, it didn't work. They were happy to have me gone, that way they could retire, and travel the world. Anyway, I went to my therapy sessions, and as time went on.......we all knew that I was going to be left to rot in these places till I turned 18 no matter how great I did. It was hard work to maintain the level system, to be perfect, to not get upset over my situation. I snapped after 3 years of this. I finally had the "fuck it attitude". I mean it didn't much matter if I were on S.S. (special status) or leval 4? I was determined to do whatever I wanted (like step outside onto the porch, you had to be on leval 2 for that!),  to say whatever I wanted, to use the lords name in vain if I wanted. I just gave up, I tried to do the things the right way, and it didn't get me anywhere. I was angry, I was violent, I did things I know hurt people. I found out I was being shipped from one school to another, and I ran. I was gone for a week, and was captured to only have the one and only Karr Farnworth there to pick me up and take me to Cross Creek Manor, where I endured even more abuse. I spent almost a year there, before I ran from there too. This time for good, I never went back. That's it, just wanted you to know a little more about me.
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« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2005, 02:28:00 PM »
CCM, you did nothing wrong. You did not deserve any of that treatment. I am so sorry you had to go through all of that for so many years. It was so wrong.
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« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2005, 02:36:00 PM »
Wow, CCM. It's me again, I just posted my apology above. I'm so sorry, 12!!! It sounds like your parents were extremely selfish. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been to go on a home visit for your only brother's funeral only to be sent away with strangers all over again. I blame your parents for this, shame on them. I hope they will have to answer for what they have done some day. I can't remember if you said you have any sort of relationship with them now. Take care.
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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2005, 02:59:00 PM »
To "it's me again,"..CCM posted that her father is age 85, and that he learned the "truth" about these WWASP programs on Fox News, and finally accepted that his daughter was telling the truth all along. I would suspect that her father has "paid" more than you would realize.
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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2005, 03:05:00 PM »
Well, I do with my Dad who is 85. We finally patched things up when I was around 26 or 27? So, things have been pretty good for the last 6 years. My Mom passed away unexpectally a couple years ago. So, she was not at my wedding which was a month ago (today is our 1 month anniversary). But, I had my Father walk me down the aisle :smile:. He feels sooooo bad about everything that happened. He's come clean, and asked for me to forgive him, and I have. But, I will never forget. Never, ever, ever. At one time I was so angry, I told people he better never come to me when his health is ailing, and he wants to move in with me! I was like, I'll get my revenge then, lock him up in some stinky old folks home, have him the one begging, and pleading to take him home!!! Hahahaha, I am laughing while I am writing this! I was mad, I wanted revenge, but I wouldn't do that to my Dad now. My husband and I are 6 weeks away from having our home completed, it's around 4400 sq. ft. and we are situated on 3 acres. My dad knows if anything should happen, that I will take care of him. I'm more then happy to do that. I love him. But, I don't have a lot of sympathy for these WWASPSies. They haven't come to me, and apologized. They just continue to screw up other peoples lives, and collect a paycheck for doing it.
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« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2005, 03:11:00 PM »
CCM: it is great that you have reconciled things with your father. Congratulations on your one-month anniversary, too! Forgiveness is healing. We parents who have been forgiven by our children are truly blessed. Some may not think we deserve such forgiveness, but we are grateful.
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« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2005, 04:29:00 PM »
Does anyone know of anybody currently in Cross Creek? Or of anybody who has been recently released? I would love to know what an average day was like for them in there.
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« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2005, 04:44:00 PM »
If you key in "Search WWF" to the left and enter Cross Creek---it will direct you to other topics discussing this facility.
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« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2005, 04:49:00 PM »
It's telling me that it is unable to connect! Hmmm...........I'll try later on. Thank you for the suggestion though!
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