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Betty Sembler vs. Harriette Miers
« on: October 09, 2005, 03:08:00 PM »
Even Ann Coulter can't stomach this one.

Harriette Miers is about as qualified as George Brown was to head FEMA, Karl Rove is to oversee the rebuilding of New Orleans or Mel Sembler ever was to be an ambassador. And what's up w/ Don Rumsfeld? He makes about as much sense as Craig Rogers or any other fringe evangelical huckster.

This is, in my view anyway, the broader, more important aspect of this whole story. We know from firsthand experience how dangerous the Semblers and their immedicate familiars are. Are the rest of these cronnies just as crazy?

It's not asif there are no standards or qualifications for ascention in the Büsh admin. There seems to be a very definite pattern here. I think they're using exactly the same criteria to qualify candidates for various positions as they used to staff the Program.

They're all true believers w/ a proven record of unquestioning obedience to the "party" and little to no other qualification.

Will people finally start looking into this now? Can we skip the endless, expensive and devisive individual incictments, teams, studies, investigations, panels and all that shit and just reach consensus that anyone closely affiliated w/ the Nazi Büsh regime is probably not trustworthy or worth the risk? Please!

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2005, 05:32:00 PM »


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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2005, 07:16:00 PM »
November 2nd, World Can't Wait. Impeach Bush. Jam his cronies out too. There are many with us in this. worldcantwait.org. I don't know who they are, but they show me we are not the only ones who are very concerned.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2005, 12:10:00 PM »
Yeah, I don't care much for their slant. I'm all for driving the Büsh regime out of power. But I'm really not in any hurry to run to the arms of the neo-maoists either.

Can't we just, like, restore the Constitution? If we did that, we wouldn't have to worry so much about replacing all the newly unemployed polit-critters. The vast majority of them are not actually legally authorized for public sector employment to begin with.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2005, 02:05:00 PM »
Did anybody see Bill Maher this weekend?  He had Ann Coulter on (she tried to touch his junk, consertively) and even she was knocking Bush and his nomination of Miers.  She admitted that Bush has alienated his base of support.  Glad that people are finally waking up to this guy's antics, even if it is a little late.  Kinda like the late, great Bill Hicks said about Reagan, and it definitely holds true of Bush today, "How far does this guy's dick have to be up your ass before you realize you're gettin' screwed?"
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 03:09:00 PM »
Damn, missed Bill w/ Ann.  Would've LOVED to see it.  I did catch her on O'Reilly (idiot).  She called Bush arrogant.  Can't say that I disagree but isn't that a little of the pot/kettle thing?  

Re: how far does his dick have to be up your ass???  I guess pretty fucking far cause here we are half way into the second term and people seem to be only at the beginning of feeling a strange sensation.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2005, 03:44:00 PM »
::bump:: ity ::bump::

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2005, 03:46:00 PM »
I think the denial comes in when we go looking for a night in shining armor to rescue us. Are the Dems any better? Is there another alternative?

YES! But it's just too much work, too much risk and too much hard thinking for most Americans to even consider.

Quit paying them and quit obeying them. It really is that simple.

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2005, 08:34:00 PM »
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Quit paying them and quit obeying them. It really is that simple.


 :smokin:  :tup:

....but vote Dem anyway.  Gotta derail the elephants.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 12:14:00 AM »
I think I'd rather be an elephant than a jack-ass.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 09:21:00 AM »
heh heh. work on it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2005, 02:18:00 PM »
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 66,00.html

Why They Can't Hit The Right Note
With even Laura off-key on Miers, Bush plans to change the message--again
By MIKE ALLEN
SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHORWeb Exclusive: A Sampling of Miers' Writings
TIME Archive: Some Clues to Miers' Views

Posted Monday, Oct. 17, 2005
Get ready for a whole new Harriet. After a disastrous two weeks, White House officials say they hope to relaunch the nomination of Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court by moving from what they call a "biographical phase" to an "accomplishment phase." In other words, stop debating her religion and personality and start focusing on her résumé as a pioneering female lawyer of the Southwest. "We got a little wrapped around the axle," an exhausted White House official said. "As the focus becomes less on who she's not and more on who she is, that's a better place to be."

So, as the White House counsel begins her formal prep sessions this week for a confirmation hearing that's likely to start in early November, President Bush will hold a photo op with former chief justices of the Texas Supreme Court who will testify to Miers' qualifications and legal mind. The White House's 20-person "confirmation team" will line up news conferences, opinion pieces and letters to the editor by professors and former colleagues who can talk about Miers' experience dealing with such real-world issues as the Voting Rights Act when she was a Dallas city council member and Native American tribal sovereignty when she was chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission.

After enjoying the 78-to-22 confirmation breeze for Chief Justice John Roberts, congressional Republicans are now sweating the Miers vote count and tell TIME that it could be as low as 52--embarrassing but still good enough for a lifetime appointment. Lawmakers and staff contend that during her first round of courtesy calls, Miers had anything but a commanding presence, looking more like a prom date next to the confident Senators. Republicans said she seemed unwilling or unable to answer questions about whether she viewed particular cases as important precedents and said she offered little beyond banal chatter.

A White House that once appeared impervious to external stimuli suddenly seemed snakebit. Correspondence released in Texas included a number of gushing cards and letters from Miers to Bush--including a 1997 birthday card in which Miers sounded like a breathless teen in a fan letter, declaring, "You are the best Governor ever--deserving of great respect!" Every effort to right the situation only made it worse. Even Laura Bush--the President's safety valve in times of trouble--irked grouchy conservatives with a mild comment on NBC's Today show. Standing beside her hammering husband on a Habitat for Humanity lot in soggy Louisiana, she said it was "possible" that there was some sexism in the criticism of Miers. "It was insulting to the people who are trying to be the most helpful," said a discouraged conservative operative who has been going to the gym more instead of pulling all-nighters for Miers.

The day after his wife's stumble, the President took his turn, playing up his nominee's evangelical Christianity as part of her qualifications for the court. But then the message changed again. Press secretary Scott McClellan briefly dropped his sunny volubility and accused reporters of obsessing about the "side issues of religion," as if the White House hadn't been pushing Miers' faith. "We love you, Scott," a correspondent bellowed in singsong as McClellan finished his briefing and left the podium.



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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2005, 02:45:00 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9711531/site/newsweek/

Harriet's Hail Mary
OK, so the religious line didn't work so well. The White House is back with a new strategy for its embattled high-court choice.

LM Otero / AP
Nominee: The road to confirmation hasn?t been smooth for Harriet Miers  

 NEWSWEEK ON AIR
Second Term Blues: A Miers Backlash, Rove?s Recall, Etc.
10/16/05: Eleanor Clift, NEWSWEEK Contributing Editor; and Michael Beschloss, Presidential Historian


By Howard Fineman and Richard Wolffe
Newsweek
Oct. 24, 2005 issue - For 25 years, Tom Rath has been the Bush family's New Hampshire go-to guy: an affable lawyer, member of the Republican National Committee?and prize catch for any would-be contender in the GOP's next presidential race. It was no surprise, then, that when George W. Bush's political team wanted to send ambitious Republican senators a firm message about Harriet Miers (crude summary: "Lay off her if you ever want our help"), they chose Rath to deliver it. On his own, or through an allied group called Progress for America, Rath last week made the family's view clear to George Allen of Virginia and Sam Brownback of Kansas, likely candidates on scouting missions to the first-in-the-nation primary state. Not coincidentally, a Bush financial backer in Houston, who had attended a recent Brownback event there, called the Capitol to echo the same?how to put it??concerned message. "Miers deserves a fair hearing," Rath told NEWSWEEK. "That's all we're saying."

Actually, here's what they're saying: We are in serious battle over this one. Miers's fate will rest on her performance in Senate hearings that won't begin until next month, and she has begun to prepare for them with her trademark meticulous diligence. But two weeks after he named the White House counsel as his choice for the U.S. Supreme Court, Bush was still rummaging through the footnotes of the family playbook in an effort to ensure that her nomination doesn't sink before it is formally considered. A penchant for realpolitik hardball is in the Bush blood. But the New Hampshire play looked a little forced?and struck some as evidence of a political machine that had lost its bearings, and even its skill, in a whorl of war, hurricanes, scandal, internal strife and second-term ennui. Threatening conservatives is not how Bush rose to power?just the opposite.

But by picking Miers, a judicial cipher and Texas crony, Bush infuriated a movement that had grown estranged from him for other reasons, particularly his big-spending approach to such matters as education, highway pork-barreling and now Gulf Coast relief. A clumsy effort to market Miers as an evangelical Christian backfired, striking some on the religious right as condescending and some on the secular left as dangerous. And, by allowing First Lady Laura Bush to call Miers's critics sexist, the president risked damaging a precious asset?the popularity of his gracious, above-the-fray spouse?while appearing desperate at the same time. In a White House known for its internal discipline, there was whispered backbiting, with allies of Karl Rove (who had his own distractions to deal with) blaming both the choice and the handling of it on chief of staff Andy Card. "We kind of blew the early rollout," said a senior Republican official, conceding the obvious?but only on background, citing the sensitivity of the situation.

White House spin doctors dismissed Miers's critics on the right as a collection of inside-the-Beltway blowhards, but that was both not quite true and politically incendiary to say. Among those expressing deep doubts, or outright opposition, were a veritable Who's Who of the rhetorical and radio-based right, including Rush Limbaugh, George F. Will, David Brooks, Ann Coulter, Peggy Noonan, Charles Krauthammer, Pat Buchanan and the editors of the National Review. Miers is everything these people did not want: a functionary without evident conservative fire, whose appeal to the president seems to have been based on her attention to detail, lack of a jurisprudential paper trail and cloying loyalty to the man who had been her personal and governmental client for a decade.

Hoping to prevent just such a meltdown, Bush's aides have been relying from the beginning on Dr. James Dobson, the evangelical counselor whose "Focus on the Family" broadcasts?and mailing lists?are a powerful grass-roots force. But the effort has created as many problems as it solved. When Miers was unveiled, Dobson issued a rather wary declaration of support, saying that he had been reassured about her by information he had received privately from a top White House aide. That person, he later confirmed, was Rove?which in turn led Democrats and even some Republicans (notably Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee) to insist that Dobson make public the soothing words he had heard. He did so last week. Miers, Dobson said Rove had told him, was "an evangelical Christian ... from a very conservative church, which is almost universally pro-life."

When Bush used the same news cycle to defend the attention to Miers's faith, the storm only intensified. And Dobson himself remains cautious. "I have been somewhat tentative," he said in a statement to NEWSWEEK, "because so much is at stake."

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2005, 02:47:00 PM »
Sorry ....Ging, you can take out all the advertising crap I missed....meant to delete it before posting.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2005, 03:46:00 PM »
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"I think I'd rather be an elephant than a jack-ass."


yeah the Reps have done such a great job running the country---we're not at war, the economy's going well, we have a surplus instead of a record national debt, we're respected by our allies, there's a general feeling of optimism in the air----no, wait, that was Clinton.

Get your head out of George W.'s ass and get his Dick (Cheney) out of your ass.......
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