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NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PARENTS

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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-10 13:10:00, HydeFan wrote:

Here's why you can't and won't be able to show any of these things: They are all fundamentally private communications, and anyone who pretends to know otherwise is lying.

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Or they were in group when the kid brought the issue up and so they heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

That's one of the fundamental flaws w/ the LGA/Synanon method, hun. It is inapropriate and damaging to the confessor as well as the wittnesses to discuss highly emotional, personal information in a group setting. Never MIND a group of kids; most being held under coercion.

This I believe: That the free, exploring mind of the individual human is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: The freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I must fight against: Any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys the individual.
--John Steinbeck, American novelist
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HydeFan:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-10 15:20:00, Antigen wrote:  Or they were in group when the kid brought the issue up and so they heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

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See that's just my point Antigen.  No one here is alleging that they heard this child say anything with regard to my number 1.  The only "fact" was that it was alleged to have happened and the child spoke about it.  

Here are all 4 points for you again:


--- Quote ---1. Show me any credible evidence that the child ask for it to be reported and that he was prevented from doing so;

2. Show me any credible evidence the child's family wasn't intimately involved in this decision and chose to do the best thing for the child;

3. Show me any credible evidence that no report in fact was made;

4. Show me any credible evidence that there was a duty to make this report.
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Since the childs parent was the headmaster, we know #2 can never be even be alleged.

Since a report could have been made by either faculty, victim or parents, and a report could have been made without the entire school knowing it, there is no way anyone can say what happened their either.  Moreso, no one has alleged that the child was allowed to speak about this freely in a seminar, but wasn't allowed to report it to the police.  And then we are to belive that in the seminar he commented on how he wasn't allowed to report it.  If you knew Hyde, you would know wny Anonymous has not made that allegation.  It simply makes NO SENSE.

For #4, well, that's just the law.

Oh, and FWIW, Hyde students are free to come and go.  They are not "held against their will".  Hyde is not Synanon, and the LGAT's by definition are dramatically different from Hyde's seminars.

Antigen you had no affiliation with Hyde and never did, so where do you get off telling people what its about.  Your posts are as disingenuous as anyones here.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-10-10 09:56:00, HydeFan wrote:

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On 2005-10-10 09:34:00, Anonymous wrote:



"HydeFan says someone mentioned who the victim was.  Could you please tell me where it says this?  I don't see it in any posts, but possibly I missed something.  I did see that it is a child of one of the Headmasters, but this could be most anyone as Headmasters have changed through the years and there are at last count 4 or 5 schools."


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You obviously aren't following these posts too closely, but that's ok, neither is "Anonymous".




--- Quote ---It happened in the 90's
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--- Quote --- Facts:

1) Several boys sodomized a student at Hyde within the last 10 years
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Last 10 years, but during the 90s, that means from 10/95-12/99 on the Bath, Campus (another thread said that, I can retrieve if you want).  So let me suggest that if you were close to the school at all during that period, you would know the answer.



Any other questions?  Or can we accept that we are some major facts short of a scandal, that at least some of us here are prone to distortion, and that maybe the biggest scandal here is that Anonymous made it fairly easy to publicly identify an alleged rape victim.



Anyway, if nothing else, this stream shows the resiliance of the distorters, and I think the parents reading this should be able to see that fairly clearly at this point.



[ This Message was edited by: HydeFan on 2005-10-10 11:12 ]"

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What I find interesting is that YOU HYDEFAN are helping to identify this supposed victim.  You are trying publicly to tie all the posts together in order to identify this person and at the same time, accusing Anonymous of the same!  Make your mind up!

You say that it happened on the Bath Campus, but did Anonymous say it was a Headmaster from the Bath Campus?  I didn't see that. Please forgive me if I am wrong, I know you have all the answers......NOT!

HydeFan:

--- Quote ---You say that it happened on the Bath Campus, but did Anonymous say it was a Headmaster from the Bath Campus?  I didn't see that. Please forgive me if I am wrong, I know you have all the answers......NOT!"

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Like I said, if you were familiar with the campuses during this period you would know there was only one possibility.[ This Message was edited by: HydeFan on 2005-10-10 16:05 ]

Anonymous:
Although you think you are so smart, maybe you aren't!  I know exactly who anonymous is talking about and it ain't even close to what you are thinking.  Everyone knew about it.  It was all over campus! Leave it alone!

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