Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PARENTS
Antigen:
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In this particular incident with Paul Hurd, Hyde did discuss this openly, but in my experience at Hyde this is rare! It is very rare for Hyde to air their dirty laundry.
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Well, here's the problem with that from my point of view. Just like Art Barker (Seed founder) and all the little tin gods who followed his methods and example, the core staff at Hyde seem to believe that they are privy to some special enlightenment that the rest of us poor SOBs just don't have. If anyone disagrees with them, it's never that they're wrong about anything, the entire formula for determining who's right or wrong in that case is "Hyde can't be wrong." That's just not a good formula for reasoning.
And, following that "logic", I'd guess that Hyde has the same problems crop up again and again. And, again and again, they ignore the pattern, toss out a sacrificial lamb and pretend they have properly addressed the problem. I'd guess that anyone involved in Hyde--student, parent or staff--who tried to raise discussion about why these same kinds of abuses seem to keep occuring, or to suggest that the problem may have more to do with the structure of the program than the succession of individuals involved in it would face some pretty harsh responses.
Am I entirely off here?
the war on drugs is but one manifestation, albeit a very dramatic one, of the great moral contests of our age -- the struggle between two diametrically opposed images of man: between man as responsible moral agent, 'condemned' to freedom, benefiting and suffering from the consequences of his actions; and man as irresponsible child, unfit for freedom, 'protected' from its risks by agents of the omnicompetent state.
--Thomas Szasz
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Anonymous:
No, you aren't off at all. Hyde for years will say, "we are growing and learning" whenever they screw up. You would think they would have it right being in existence as many years as they have!!
You are absolutely right that they have a difficult time admitting when they are wrong. Joe Gauld is NEVER wrong. He is G-d like and he will tell you so. In fact I think I have a letter he sent out to the parents referring to himself as above most anyone else in the world and telling the parents that he knows best, (not us) how to handle our kids! I will look for this letter and if I find it I will reprint it on this website.
Antigen:
Oh, absolutely! Anybody w/ documents I'd highly recomend that you consider making them public. Just be careful about info that might hurt innocents, like surnames and such. But most of the time, if you are entrusted w/ private communication and there's nothing like the legal confidentiality requirements you'd have w/ a lawyer or doctor, it's fair game at your discretion.
Check w/ a lawyer first, though, if you're not sure.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
Andrew Tannenbaum
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Anonymous:
I wish parents who are considering Hyde could have been a fly on the wall at our home the past two days. My daughter is home for the Thanksgiving break. One of her friends from Hyde is staying with us as well; the friend's family situation is very chaotic and the friend asked whether she could stay with us during the break. We were happy to accommodate her (with her parents' "blessing").
We've now heard quite a few conversations about Hyde from students' perspective. My daughter and her friend are very, very cynical about Hyde and have spoken at length about how many kids there play the Hyde "game" in order to survive (these two girls are not "off track" kids, to use Hyde's terminology). We've heard lots of unsolicited anecdotes that confirm many of the postings on this website. Major themes include the large percentage of Hyde kids who struggle with major mental health problems but do not have access to any professional services on campus; the poor quality of some of the teaching; the extremely inappropriate details the kids have heard during FLCs and other seminars; the number of staff who struggle with issues in their own lives and interact with kids inappropriately (using insulting language, verbal abuse); the kids whose behavior is out of control and who run away; and so forth. Joe Gauld came up a lot during the conversations; I was amazed at how perceptive the kids are. They spoke eloquently about Joe Gauld's pompous, arrogant, and insulting behaviors. The kids seem to see right through the man.
I realize these anecdotes represent only two Hyde students' perceptions. And, I can't verify every one of their reports. But the girls' comments sure are consistent with what I've heard from lots of parents and some other students during the years our family has been connected with Hyde. These conversations convince us more than ever that we made a terribly serious mistake when we enrolled our child at Hyde. We're also convinced that our decision to leave Hyde is the right one.
Antigen:
Interesting! On the one hand, yeah, probably not the top notch private boarding school it may be cracked up to be. On the other, these girls felt comfortable talking w/ you about it? I'm guessing you've given enough detail to bust your anonymity w/ Hyde staff. Does that concern you? Please let us know if there's any fallout and what kind.
I don't believe in God. My god is patriotism. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
--Andrew Carnegie, Scottish-born American industrialist and philanthropist
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