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Offline jody

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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2005, 01:33:00 AM »
Hi,
What does (CEDU) stand for?
Thank you,
Jody
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2005, 01:59:00 AM »
I am sure that this is the place formy son....and will be taking him there nexyt week.  I found a video clip on it at http://www.christiangiving.net.  Click on the photo on the main page and it will take you to links to 4 charities....if you click the Anchor Academy button, it will take you to a place where you can watch the video.  I agree with you about the people on this site....I don't pay much attention to most of the people here.....Good luck with your son...I will pray for him and you.  (one of the things that helped me make my final decision was that one evening at home I received a call from Anchor regarding the upcoming arrival of my son...The person on the othre side of the call was a young man that had graduated from Anchor 4 years previously and came back to work during his vacations.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2005, 02:36:00 AM »
Dear Dad,
I have known of Lester Roloff for decades, and he was a Godly man.  Here is his bio:
http://www.earnestlycontending.com/KT/b ... oloff.html
Long after we was dead, the abuse allegations were made. I know nothing about the validity of these allegations or what the outcome was.  I didn't know his Anchor home moved to Mt.
    I viewed the video at their site.  My speakers are not hooked up so I could not hear but I was impressed by what I saw.  I think it this world of "you owe me" this type of home may impose values the young men can take with them into their adult life.  
     I wish there was something like this school close to Georgia.  Best of luck with your son and I pray God open his eyes and his heart.

Jody
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2005, 08:56:00 AM »
Oh please. Give it a rest. Isn't there a board where christians can commisserate about the trials of finding 'alternative living' arrangements for their intolerable kids? That is just soooo godly. Were these kids born with the 'you owe me' attitude. No, someone modeled that for them. Wonder who?
I find your interpretation of and prejudices much more offensive than the 'foul' language. And I think Roloff was rabid and extremely 'foul'.
Why are either of you still here? Just curious?
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2005, 08:58:00 AM »
"CEDU" is the name of a group of programs founded in the 1980s and finally closed early 2005.  Long story why the closure.  One program continued, and three or four others are restarting, all under new ownership.  All reports say same philosophy will be followed as originally designed.  "CEDU" derives, I recall, from "see" and "do", as in seeing/learning something  (notably the behavior they presumably model/teach) and doing it.  Whatever, it was not particularly followed in a clearly recognizable form, at least by 2004.
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2005, 09:19:00 AM »
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"I am sure that this is the place formy son....and will be taking him there nexyt week.  I found a video clip on it at http://www.christiangiving.net.  Click on the photo on the main page and it will take you to links to 4 charities....if you click the Anchor Academy button, it will take you to a place where you can watch the video.  

I agree with you about the people on this site....I don't pay much attention to most of the people here.....Good luck with your son...I will pray for him and you.  (one of the things that helped me make my final decision was that one evening at home I received a call from Anchor regarding the upcoming arrival of my son...The person on the othre side of the call was a young man that had graduated from Anchor 4 years previously and came back to work during his vacations.  "

 
You two are so transparent, it isn't even funny.  

You didn't come here for "the other side of the story", you came here to judge and preach.  I'm not sure I believe you actually even have a kid, DD,  but if he exists, and he's on his way to Anchor I will pray for him too.

I will pray that he can resist the repetitive indoctrination that will produce a vacant-eyed kid with a Gomer Pyle smile who doesn't dare "challenge authority".  I pray that he might be the one to crack that place wide open and free the other prisoners as well.

I have questions about the video:

1.  What is it about the kids "choice in music" that "led them down the wrong path"?

2.  What is "character building"?

3.  Why is "character building" only possible with mindless physical labor?
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2005, 10:22:00 AM »
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On 2005-11-16 22:33:00, jody wrote:

"Hi,

What does (CEDU) stand for?

Thank you,

Jody"


CEDU originally stood for Charles E. Diederich University. Diederich was the founder of Synanon, which, if you aren't familiar with, is a whole story unto itself. (But you can find lots of threads here which talk about it.) Basically, it was a cult. CEDU's founder, Mel Wasserman, used to be involved with them.

However, after the incident where two Synanon members put a rattlesnake in a lawyer's mailbox in an attempt to kill him, Mel changed the line to stating that CEDU stood for "See yourself as you are and Do something about it."
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2005, 10:31:00 AM »
*sigh*  :rofl:

And about struggling teens, well, Ill just repeat what Gin said - they allow NO CRITICISM, NO CRITICAL REVIEW! They basically only allow people to privately tell you how good it is and people to say they exist. There IS NO CHANCE FOR ANYTHING BAD TO COME OUT. Its nonsense. If something cant stand up to scrutiny or criticism, its NONSENSE, its got something to hide, its a bunch of bullshit. Unless, of course, they'd lead you to believe that "everyone is out to get them" :roll:

At any rate, it seems to show here that your kid is in dire need of growing up. You know how to let a kid grow up? I can say the last thing youd do is put him in some program where they go out of their way to make him a kid again. Being controlled, humiliated, living in an austere environemnt and having god and every transgression he's ever done (or a few made up ones) shoved down his throat wont make him grow up.

Hell, can you even tell us how this program is supposed to work? What it does? What it treats? All Ive ever heard is a bunch of vague NONSENSE about how you dont like where hes going and want him to put into some vague 'direction'

Take your paws off and let him grow up. Three Springs Waygookin can back me up here - giving him a job and responsibilities will go light years to help him 'grow up', but putting him into a program and getting skullfucked for jesus will NOT.

Screening pre-school kids for anti-social behavior is about as useful as screening the Christian Coalition for sanctimonious behavior.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=sanho+tree&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web' target='_new'>Sanho Tree

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TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2005, 12:43:00 PM »
this home is quite a ways from you, but they tour to georgia with their choir...and the cost is only $12,000 per year....a bargain and a blessing...good luck.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2005, 01:38:00 PM »
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"this home is quite a ways from you, but they tour to georgia with their choir...and the cost is only $12,000 per year....a bargain and a blessing...good luck."
Shit, man, give me the $12,000 and I'll beat, starve, humiliate and break your kid.  I'll even throw in a bonus beating for you.

Put on that Anchor-traz red shirt and I'll run over you like raging bull in the arena.
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« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2005, 02:33:00 PM »
Give me some $$ and I'll show him a great time.  ::deal::
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« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2005, 03:35:00 PM »
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"Give me some $$ and I'll show him a great time.  ::deal:: "
hey, karen.  it's me, DJ.  i should remind you:  you never charged ME for your services...
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« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2005, 08:50:00 PM »
Hey, Desperate Dad - why haven't you answered the questions?
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« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2005, 10:06:00 PM »
I tend to agree with Handbasket. I believe Desperate Dad is a phony too. What father, who is actually seeking "help" for his son, would read the postings here about the boys who were abused so badly at Anchor, and the two other locations this BROHTER ran before opening this so-called "school" there; and the connection to Roloff---and THEN come back onto fornits a month-and-a-half later to "announce" that he is dropping his kid off at this gotta-be-abusive hell hole?
The entire posting episode from this "dad" just stinks.
And this "dad" was posting over on Struggling Teens too.
Maybe he thinks this is some form of advertising, or something.
Got news for him: all he did was make a lot of people aware of this place and its wrongdoings.
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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2005, 02:02:00 PM »
I never got any responses from anyone with FIRST-HAND knowledge of Anchor....so I stopped coming to this completely biased and ignorant forum....unless I received an e-mail response directly from someone here.....The only thing I have heard from anyone first hand are good results and thankful parents and changed teens.  Good luck to you all.
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